11:54 here -- I think I see it:

https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources

Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.

CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.

TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.

DCPS and charter 2018 PARCC scores here for every school. also scroll down for breakouts by grade and demographics

http://results.osse.dc.gov/

Anonymous wrote:3rd grade ELA scores at CMI last year were 21.1%

Schools that had higher scores than CMI are:
Leckie
Browne
Bridges
Center City
Simon
Burrville
Cooke
Burroughs
Friendship
Democracy Prep
Rocketship
Bethune
Cleveland
Noyes
King
DC Scholars
Beers
Friendship Chamberlain
Meridian
Sela
Harmony
Center City Brightwood
Friendship SE
Tubman
Thomson
Ingenuity Prep
City Arts
Early Childhood PCS
Brightwood
Truesdell
+other top charter and DCPS

Why is it you think white families continue to list CMI in their top 12 as a "HRCS"?

To put in perspective with other HRCSs
ITS - 65.3%
KIPP - 51.9%
LAMB - 45.7%
YY 44.3%

Can you link to this data? I just went to the link below and it says 12% of Noyes students were level 4-5 (proficient or above proficient, I believe?) on the 2018 ELA PARCC. (Noyes is our in bound, and when I looked at the standardized scores a year or two ago, I recall thinking that only 10% of students tested were proficient or above.) https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/release_content/attachments/2018%20DCPS%20PARCC%20Results%20Deck.pdf

Not that test scores are everything -- and they are less relevant to preschool and early elementary -- but I would like to get the numbers right.

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Anonymous wrote:PP- -that is stark. CMI families, have they done any messaging on why-test-scores?

The families there will tell you they like that CMI doesn't "teach to the test."

The same families will tell you their IB schools were "not an option" because they lack a "cohort of high-performing peers."

What they don't realize is that if they went back to their IB schools, their kids might get the remediation they need. I don't love PARCC and think some of its questions are confusing, but a kid who scores 4s is going to be better at math and reading than a kid who scores 2s, and I do care if kids learn how to read and do math.

This is the point. CMI doesn't have high performing peers. There are more high-performing peers at Noyes, Leckie, Beers, Houston, King, and Brightwood than at CMI. PP can blame me all she wants for calling names but the fact of the matter is there are CMI parents that are willingly letting their kids stay in a very low performing school for access to white/rich peers.

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Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)

Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies

they aren't even close to having some of the "worst scores" in the city. Its actually diverse and the PTA is a fundraising machine on par with a WoTP school, beautiful grounds and facilities. yes there are issues but the parents I know there love it and we keep trying to get in.

I almost wrote *worst WOTR. No matter how you slice it and no matter how much money the families foolishly raise on a sinking school, the scores are horrible. Full stop. I have no idea why they aren't being considered for closure. They literally do not have enough money to fund this current school year. You can't fundraise that shortage.

Sp why does all that, assuming it's actually true(?) make you happy enough to post a grinny face? Are you some kind of ghoul?

The grin face was that they still attract white hippies (or yippies as another PP pointed out). I personally find it comical that they are considered "highly regarded" with certain parents. If the school had the demographics of Noyes with everything else being the same, people wouldn't look twice at them. They don't even outperform DC averages. It's actually so sad that I find it comical - you know laugh to keep from crying that there are so many of my white neighbors that only ascribe to a school for it's demographics despite being a failure in every single measure.

I don't understand why you think its ok to insult groups of people. This is never ok. I don't care what color you are, or how much money you do or do not have.

Anonymous wrote:PP- -that is stark. CMI families, have they done any messaging on why-test-scores?

The families there will tell you they like that CMI doesn't "teach to the test."

The same families will tell you their IB schools were "not an option" because they lack a "cohort of high-performing peers."

What they don't realize is that if they went back to their IB schools, their kids might get the remediation they need. I don't love PARCC and think some of its questions are confusing, but a kid who scores 4s is going to be better at math and reading than a kid who scores 2s, and I do care if kids learn how to read and do math.

Anonymous wrote:PP- -that is stark. CMI families, have they done any messaging on why-test-scores?

I think their financial picture is more frightening than test scores. If CMI were a stock, any smart person would be selling, selling, selling.

PP- -that is stark. CMI families, have they done any messaging on why-test-scores?

3rd grade ELA scores at CMI last year were 21.1%

Schools that had higher scores than CMI are:
Leckie
Browne
Bridges
Center City
Simon
Burrville
Cooke
Burroughs
Friendship
Democracy Prep
Rocketship
Bethune
Cleveland
Noyes
King
DC Scholars
Beers
Friendship Chamberlain
Meridian
Sela
Harmony
Center City Brightwood
Friendship SE
Tubman
Thomson
Ingenuity Prep
City Arts
Early Childhood PCS
Brightwood
Truesdell
+other top charter and DCPS

Why is it you think white families continue to list CMI in their top 12 as a "HRCS"?

To put in perspective with other HRCSs
ITS - 65.3%
KIPP - 51.9%
LAMB - 45.7%
YY 44.3%

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Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)

Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies

they aren't even close to having some of the "worst scores" in the city. Its actually diverse and the PTA is a fundraising machine on par with a WoTP school, beautiful grounds and facilities. yes there are issues but the parents I know there love it and we keep trying to get in.

I almost wrote *worst WOTR. No matter how you slice it and no matter how much money the families foolishly raise on a sinking school, the scores are horrible. Full stop. I have no idea why they aren't being considered for closure. They literally do not have enough money to fund this current school year. You can't fundraise that shortage.

Sp why does all that, assuming it's actually true(?) make you happy enough to post a grinny face? Are you some kind of ghoul?

The grin face was that they still attract white hippies (or yippies as another PP pointed out). I personally find it comical that they are considered "highly regarded" with certain parents. If the school had the demographics of Noyes with everything else being the same, people wouldn't look twice at them. They don't even outperform DC averages. It's actually so sad that I find it comical - you know laugh to keep from crying that there are so many of my white neighbors that only ascribe to a school for it's demographics despite being a failure in every single measure.

CMI is awesome!! Until 1st grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)

Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies

they aren't even close to having some of the "worst scores" in the city. Its actually diverse and the PTA is a fundraising machine on par with a WoTP school, beautiful grounds and facilities. yes there are issues but the parents I know there love it and we keep trying to get in.

I almost wrote *worst WOTR. No matter how you slice it and no matter how much money the families foolishly raise on a sinking school, the scores are horrible. Full stop. I have no idea why they aren't being considered for closure. They literally do not have enough money to fund this current school year. You can't fundraise that shortage.

Sp why does all that, assuming it's actually true(?) make you happy enough to post a grinny face? Are you some kind of ghoul?

The grin face was that they still attract white hippies (or yippies as another PP pointed out). I personally find it comical that they are considered "highly regarded" with certain parents. If the school had the demographics of Noyes with everything else being the same, people wouldn't look twice at them. They don't even outperform DC averages. It's actually so sad that I find it comical - you know laugh to keep from crying that there are so many of my white neighbors that only ascribe to a school for it's demographics despite being a failure in every single measure.

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Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)

Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies

they aren't even close to having some of the "worst scores" in the city. Its actually diverse and the PTA is a fundraising machine on par with a WoTP school, beautiful grounds and facilities. yes there are issues but the parents I know there love it and we keep trying to get in.

I almost wrote *worst WOTR. No matter how you slice it and no matter how much money the families foolishly raise on a sinking school, the scores are horrible. Full stop. I have no idea why they aren't being considered for closure. They literally do not have enough money to fund this current school year. You can't fundraise that shortage.

Sp why does all that, assuming it's actually true(?) make you happy enough to post a grinny face? Are you some kind of ghoul?

One hundred and fourteen offers?!?! Feel like we dogded a bullet.

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Anonymous wrote:The later into the process (once it's already a month or more into the school year), the more offers will be made because many people already feeling settled in the school where they started the school year will stay put.

ITS waiting until August to make any waitlist offers probably caused some of this.

And it feels shady / manipulative.

I don't see what's manipulative about it, but it was a stunning drop and I would have much rather switched DC over before school began.

Way more offers than last year at ITS and MV both.

+1
MV 2017-18 thru Oct
PK3 - 4
PK4 - 18
K - 37
1 - 28
2 - 17
3 - 3
4 -3
5 - 5

MV 2018-19 thru Oct
PK3 - 7
PK4 - 18
K - 114
1 - 38
2 - 31
3 - 8
4 - 15
5 - 0

ITS offers were about the same (other than K and a little 2nd)
ITS 2017-18 thru Oct
PK3 - 24
PK4 - 1
K - 44
1 - 0
2 - 18
3 - 7
4 - 4
5 - 13
6 - 19
7 - 9
8 - 1

ITS 2018-19 thru Oct
PK3 - 18
PK4 - 13
K - 64
1 - 2
2 - 31
3 - 0
4 -16
5 - 7
6 - 2
7 - 2
8 - 0

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Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)

Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies

they aren't even close to having some of the "worst scores" in the city. Its actually diverse and the PTA is a fundraising machine on par with a WoTP school, beautiful grounds and facilities. yes there are issues but the parents I know there love it and we keep trying to get in.

I almost wrote *worst WOTR. No matter how you slice it and no matter how much money the families foolishly raise on a sinking school, the scores are horrible. Full stop. I have no idea why they aren't being considered for closure. They literally do not have enough money to fund this current school year. You can't fundraise that shortage.