Anonymous wrote:I assume that white and asian data would be similar - so the narrative of the article wouldn't change. they probably should've included that data.

It shows whites are disciplined 1.5x more than Asians are and I’d assume also Asians get better grades and are in more AP courses.

I assume that white and asian data would be similar - so the narrative of the article wouldn't change. they probably should've included that data.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why those who cone up with these stories omit Asians to skew results to make the school systems seemracist. These a 100% democrat areas. Is this some intersectionality type infighting ?

Because the inclusion of Asians would upset the narrative the study's author wants to push.

No, it wouldn't. How would the inclusion of Asians affect the narrative that black students and Hispanic students are treated differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers? The other narrative is that black students and Hispanic students behave differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers, but that still doesn't need the inclusion of Asians to say that.

As an early poster suggested if Asians were included in the study and it showed that whites were disciplined far more, they wouldn't be able to push this off as teacher bias and racism. Regardless, the study has no merit since it omits a key group namely Asians from consideration.

Okay then.

It's amazing how many posters on this thread and comments to the article, as well as the ACLU tweet, want to trash the article and do not want to engage with it at all. You're not disagreeing with it, you're just dismissing it.

engage with a lie? This would be like a story on domestic violence omitting DV committed by women saying DV is only a men’s issue. This study is a fraud to push a false narrative

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why those who cone up with these stories omit Asians to skew results to make the school systems seemracist. These a 100% democrat areas. Is this some intersectionality type infighting ?

Because the inclusion of Asians would upset the narrative the study's author wants to push.

No, it wouldn't. How would the inclusion of Asians affect the narrative that black students and Hispanic students are treated differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers? The other narrative is that black students and Hispanic students behave differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers, but that still doesn't need the inclusion of Asians to say that.

As an early poster suggested if Asians were included in the study and it showed that whites were disciplined far more, they wouldn't be able to push this off as teacher bias and racism. Regardless, the study has no merit since it omits a key group namely Asians from consideration.

Okay then.

It's amazing how many posters on this thread and comments to the article, as well as the ACLU tweet, want to trash the article and do not want to engage with it at all. You're not disagreeing with it, you're just dismissing it.

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure why the knee-jerk reaction is to blame teachers and administrators and assume they are biased, rather than to dig into the infractions and confirm whether the students were misbehaving. If the end result is simply that black and Hispanic students cannot be disciplined because it would exceed some disciplinary quota, the white and Asian families will flee the schools where order is not maintained.

The unequal results may be entirely because the black and Hispanic students are bad.

But MCPS can only change what they do, and that includes both reducing bias in discipline as well as improving ineffective inculturation/behavior modification. As a society, we can tsk at parents, but MCPS can only change how teachers and others interact with students.

I know liberals who avoid certain schools based on free or reduced price mails so they can say they aren’t basing schoo decisions on avoiding blacks and Hispanics but now democrats are making all lunches “free” for all students so those liberals won’t be able to do that anymore

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why those who cone up with these stories omit Asians to skew results to make the school systems seemracist. These a 100% democrat areas. Is this some intersectionality type infighting ?

Because the inclusion of Asians would upset the narrative the study's author wants to push.

No, it wouldn't. How would the inclusion of Asians affect the narrative that black students and Hispanic students are treated differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers? The other narrative is that black students and Hispanic students behave differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers, but that still doesn't need the inclusion of Asians to say that.

As an early poster suggested if Asians were included in the study and it showed that whites were disciplined far more, they wouldn't be able to push this off as teacher bias and racism. Regardless, the study has no merit since it omits a key group namely Asians from consideration.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why those who cone up with these stories omit Asians to skew results to make the school systems seemracist. These a 100% democrat areas. Is this some intersectionality type infighting ?

Because the inclusion of Asians would upset the narrative the study's author wants to push.

No, it wouldn't. How would the inclusion of Asians affect the narrative that black students and Hispanic students are treated differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers? The other narrative is that black students and Hispanic students behave differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers, but that still doesn't need the inclusion of Asians to say that.

So white students being treated different than Asian students is okay ? You nor the authors seem to care about that

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Anonymous wrote:If Asians are disciplined less than whites turn t means Asians are even more disproportionately less disciplined than whites are and blacks are disciplined even more in comparison to Asians than to whites yet the story completely omits it implying an anti black and anti Hispanic bias in the faculty and staff.

I'm not sure how you think that the discipline rate of Asians affirms or refutes an implied anti-black or anti-Hispanic bias in MCPS faculty and staff.

If Asians are disciplined least of all groups is there an anti white bias as well? A pro Asian bias?

I’m not sure why the knee-jerk reaction is to blame teachers and administrators and assume they are biased, rather than to dig into the infractions and confirm whether the students were misbehaving. If the end result is simply that black and Hispanic students cannot be disciplined because it would exceed some disciplinary quota, the white and Asian families will flee the schools where order is not maintained.

Another example of democrats distorting or denying reality for their agenda, and here the agenda is to further lower standards for blacks and Hispanics

Anonymous wrote:The white/asian students especially boys behave as poorly as the black/latino boys in earlier grades and receive similar amount of discipline and complaint. They become much better in 4-5th grades. Parenting seems playing a role at least partially.

4-5th grade is also when more enrichment is introduced like compacted math. If, as the article says, white students are three grades ahead on average, then behavior improves as the classwork begins to match ability. Perhaps one answer is more appropriate curriculum for all levels (differentiation), so that students won't be too bored (either because it's too easy or because it's too hard) to act out. But then I guess there would be articles criticizing MCPS for putting more minority students in remedial classes...

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why those who cone up with these stories omit Asians to skew results to make the school systems seemracist. These a 100% democrat areas. Is this some intersectionality type infighting ?

Because the inclusion of Asians would upset the narrative the study's author wants to push.

No, it wouldn't. How would the inclusion of Asians affect the narrative that black students and Hispanic students are treated differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers? The other narrative is that black students and Hispanic students behave differently than white students resulting in these unequal numbers, but that still doesn't need the inclusion of Asians to say that.

Anonymous wrote:In the comments section, someone wrote,

Racist against whom? If Asians [were included] in the study it would show whites are disciplined more. Are the teachers anti-white racists? This story is dishonest cherry picking of data designed to lower standards

Does this seem true?

It kind of rings true.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why those who cone up with these stories omit Asians to skew results to make the school systems seemracist. These a 100% democrat areas. Is this some intersectionality type infighting ?

Because the inclusion of Asians would upset the narrative the study's author wants to push.