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10/24/2018 09:07 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Anonymous wrote:Trash talking is what you do during sports games, if you are shocked then you have never played pick up basketball, football, or any competitive sport. You leave it on the court/field, but it's part of sports.

Hispanic kids play because the parents love soccer and it's a part of their lives. Just like we watch football on thanksgiving. US will always be 2nd tier because we don't have a soccer culture and we field teams with the best that we have to offer in terms of players interested. Other countries, their top athletes play soccer, not basketball or football.

Wrong. I played soccer from age 6 til 40, D2 college, etc. And I don't watch football on thanksgiving (or ever). I did PLENTY of trash talking, but never would I have used the N word or belittled a special needs kid. This is what I am referring to.

Anonymous

10/24/2018 08:36 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Trash talking is what you do during sports games, if you are shocked then you have never played pick up basketball, football, or any competitive sport. You leave it on the court/field, but it's part of sports.

Hispanic kids play because the parents love soccer and it's a part of their lives. Just like we watch football on thanksgiving. US will always be 2nd tier because we don't have a soccer culture and we field teams with the best that we have to offer in terms of players interested. Other countries, their top athletes play soccer, not basketball or football.

Anonymous

10/24/2018 07:53 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DH is Latino. He says he grew up learning to kick a ball instead of throwing a ball.

He also says American coaching focuses too much on passing over dribbling and scoring.

Very true. Too much one touch soccer that kills creativity.

My son is AA and Mexican and plays on a "non-Hispanic" team and is really good. After one touch, here comes the coach "look for your teammates".

That's such a problem now. We've gone to the other extreme. No one wants a ball hog, but at the same time, kids need to learn how to carry the ball.

Anonymous

10/23/2018 19:24 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH is Latino. He says he grew up learning to kick a ball instead of throwing a ball.

He also says American coaching focuses too much on passing over dribbling and scoring.

Very true. Too much one touch soccer that kills creativity.

My son is AA and Mexican and plays on a "non-Hispanic" team and is really good. After one touch, here comes the coach "look for your teammates".

Anonymous

10/22/2018 12:08 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

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My son was on an all Hispanic team and the white kids were constantly telling them to "go back to their county", calling them illegal, or speaking Spanglish too them.

We also had problems with parents and referees.

This is not new (not since Trump). My experience with this goes back at least 10 years.

This weekend a Hispanic player on our team won a free kick just outside the 18 and all the parents on the other team started screaming "MAKE WALL!" I was shocked.

OMG, I am sure they meant a soccer wall--duh.

Anonymous

10/22/2018 09:51 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

This weekend a Hispanic player on our team won a free kick just outside the 18 and all the parents on the other team started screaming "MAKE WALL!" I was shocked.

Anonymous

10/22/2018 09:28 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

This question seems really weird. There are three Hispanic kids on my son's travel team (out of a total of 11 kids). They play the same way that the white and African-American players do, and don't seem to do anything different than anyone else.

Anonymous

10/22/2018 09:14 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Anonymous wrote:We've played a lot of all-Hispanic teams this season and I'm noticing a disturbing trend and I'm not sure the best way to explain it to my child. The aggression (and I don't mean physicality...I am OK with that) is overboard for 12-year-olds. I am talking about the amount of trash talk. It could be that they are entering the tween period and it's natural to start using curse words, etc. But there's been a noticeable difference with the Hispanic teams. And it's not just using swear words, it's saying horrible racist and demeaning things... Can someone explain this to me...? Tolerance and embracing diversity are values in our house but these real-life experiences, weekend after weekend, are starting to taint my child's views of this particular culture and I want to be able to counter that... Any thoughts?

Anonymous

10/22/2018 09:08 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Anonymous wrote:Its not just the all Hispanic teams. There are aggressive trash talking teams all over. I think it’s instructive for my kids to experience it first in a relatively safe environment (soccer game) because it exists in the world and they need to learn to deal with it. Unfortunately. Our coaches teach the team to continue to play our game and not lose our values, while continuing to play hard and not back down. Life lessons

Well, I wish that were true. But in our experience so far, it's mainly the Hispanic teams. I don't want my child to start stereotyping all Hispanic people based on this, that's where I am looking to hear from some Hispanic parents or coaches as to why this behavior seems prevalent. Perhaps that's what it takes to thrive in the professional Hispanic leagues? Anyone have thoughts?

Anonymous

10/22/2018 08:22 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Its not just the all Hispanic teams. There are aggressive trash talking teams all over. I think it’s instructive for my kids to experience it first in a relatively safe environment (soccer game) because it exists in the world and they need to learn to deal with it. Unfortunately. Our coaches teach the team to continue to play our game and not lose our values, while continuing to play hard and not back down. Life lessons

Anonymous

10/22/2018 08:03 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

We've played a lot of all-Hispanic teams this season and I'm noticing a disturbing trend and I'm not sure the best way to explain it to my child. The aggression (and I don't mean physicality...I am OK with that) is overboard for 12-year-olds. I am talking about the amount of trash talk. It could be that they are entering the tween period and it's natural to start using curse words, etc. But there's been a noticeable difference with the Hispanic teams. And it's not just using swear words, it's saying horrible racist and demeaning things... Can someone explain this to me...? Tolerance and embracing diversity are values in our house but these real-life experiences, weekend after weekend, are starting to taint my child's views of this particular culture and I want to be able to counter that... Any thoughts?

Anonymous

10/21/2018 11:43 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH is Latino. He says he grew up learning to kick a ball instead of throwing a ball.

He also says American coaching focuses too much on passing over dribbling and scoring.

Very true. Too much one touch soccer that kills creativity.

One touch soccer does not seem to be stifling creativity in Spain, Germany, Belgium, France, etc. I rarely see American teams (including our national team) that are capable of executing one touch soccer the same way as Barcelona, Real Madrid, ManCity, etc do. It is one of the hardest things to execute, but if executed properly, it is the hardest thing to defend against.

You are confusing possession soccer with one touch soccer. They do some one touch and they also carry the ball plenty. Not at all the same thing.

Anonymous

10/20/2018 21:55 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

One thing I've seen is that some latino kids are playing or kicking a ball since they can walk. If they are getting touches on the ball almost every day of the year, that adds up to hundreds of hours by the time they are 7.

The closest comparison is basketball - take a 7 year old who grows up in a basketball family or is surrounded by it all the time where they live and compare them to another 7 year old in a different country who has never been exposed to it and has never watched an NBA game before.

Anonymous

10/20/2018 19:51 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

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Anonymous wrote:isn’t france, germany, spain and italy all north of the equator?

Read more carefully. Poster was talking about North/South America.

Poorly described and written.

I guess you need to limit also to the men’s game. There is a country on the women’s side north of the equator, in the Western Hemisphere, who has won World Cup.

I had heard that too, I heard they've actually won it more than once, and that they're still ranked number 1 in the world --- I'm not sure if that true not though.

Apparently, it's just cause they're better athletically though, not because they any actual soccer skills.

What's funny is that their is only one Western Hemisphere team from south of the equator ranked in the top 20 in the world --- can't fathom how that could be.

Ignorance is bliss.

Anonymous

10/20/2018 11:01 Subject: Question for Latino soccer parents

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:isn’t france, germany, spain and italy all north of the equator?

Read more carefully. Poster was talking about North/South America.

Poorly described and written.

I guess you need to limit also to the men’s game. There is a country on the women’s side north of the equator, in the Western Hemisphere, who has won World Cup.

I had heard that too, I heard they've actually won it more than once, and that they're still ranked number 1 in the world --- I'm not sure if that true not though.

Apparently, it's just cause they're better athletically though, not because they any actual soccer skills.

What's funny is that their is only one Western Hemisphere team from south of the equator ranked in the top 20 in the world --- can't fathom how that could be.