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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is harder to control the kids when they are spread out. Some gym teachers would rather not deal with unruly students outdoors. Also, when they only have 30-40 minutes, maybe they don't want to waste 10 minutes going outside.

At our ES, PEs were 2 regular classes combined. Thus, a single PE class was around 50 kids. I can only imagine the additional challenges in lining up 50 kids for outdoor PE as well as dealing with a few strong personalities.

This thread has convinced me that PE should be inside.

You rather have 50 kids inside one gym playing indoor soccer, maybe getting a 5 minute turn once out of the 35-40min - than outside playing on a full size soccer field?

And since when is it a challenge to line up kids for PE or anything else? Do teachers just not have a backbone anymore? It is no different than lining up an entire grade to and from recess. These excuses are laughable.

Also, why don't you have two PE teachers? When we had portables, we received PT special teachers to help with the influx. Why doesn't your school have that option?

Are you in MCPS? There is no way you are in MCPS if you don't understand the challenges that ESs face.

Teachers are in a really, really tough spot. There is focus on PBIS, and a focus on not punishing kids. So, there aren't really many consequences teachers can implement and the students know this. Agree with the other PP. If you've ever been around at recess, or volunteered for Field Day, it is insanity. And, not much teachers can do. We've had kids get into fights during PE!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is harder to control the kids when they are spread out. Some gym teachers would rather not deal with unruly students outdoors. Also, when they only have 30-40 minutes, maybe they don't want to waste 10 minutes going outside.

At our ES, PEs were 2 regular classes combined. Thus, a single PE class was around 50 kids. I can only imagine the additional challenges in lining up 50 kids for outdoor PE as well as dealing with a few strong personalities.

This thread has convinced me that PE should be inside.

You rather have 50 kids inside one gym playing indoor soccer, maybe getting a 5 minute turn once out of the 35-40min - than outside playing on a full size soccer field?

And since when is it a challenge to line up kids for PE or anything else? Do teachers just not have a backbone anymore? It is no different than lining up an entire grade to and from recess. These excuses are laughable.

Also, why don't you have two PE teachers? When we had portables, we received PT special teachers to help with the influx. Why doesn't your school have that option?

Yes, I would rather have them in a controlled environment, without needing access to locked doors. A para previously commented on this pretty eloquently. MCPS cannot have the building doors unsecured anymore.

School has 1 PE teacher for the 50 kids in the period. Blame MCPS for that.

Have you ever volunteered at recess? If so, then you have surely seen challenges keeping them in line. If you haven't seen these issues, then I want to move to your school.

Elementary PE teachers have just one class of kids (24 in our school).

If middle and high school PE classes can be held outside, then why not elementary?

What?? What ES is this?

Our school combines two classes for PE. It is at least 50 kids and one PE teacher. Our PE teacher is fantastic, but it is really, really tough to keep that many kids in line.

This has been the case since K at our school. Always a combination of two classes for PE and for indoor recess. It's ridiculous, IMO, but not much they can do as MCPS would rather spend money on other BS expenses, rather than additional staff for our ES.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is harder to control the kids when they are spread out. Some gym teachers would rather not deal with unruly students outdoors. Also, when they only have 30-40 minutes, maybe they don't want to waste 10 minutes going outside.

At our ES, PEs were 2 regular classes combined. Thus, a single PE class was around 50 kids. I can only imagine the additional challenges in lining up 50 kids for outdoor PE as well as dealing with a few strong personalities.

This thread has convinced me that PE should be inside.

You rather have 50 kids inside one gym playing indoor soccer, maybe getting a 5 minute turn once out of the 35-40min - than outside playing on a full size soccer field?

And since when is it a challenge to line up kids for PE or anything else? Do teachers just not have a backbone anymore? It is no different than lining up an entire grade to and from recess. These excuses are laughable.

Also, why don't you have two PE teachers? When we had portables, we received PT special teachers to help with the influx. Why doesn't your school have that option?

Yes, I would rather have them in a controlled environment, without needing access to locked doors. A para previously commented on this pretty eloquently. MCPS cannot have the building doors unsecured anymore.

School has 1 PE teacher for the 50 kids in the period. Blame MCPS for that.

Have you ever volunteered at recess? If so, then you have surely seen challenges keeping them in line. If you haven't seen these issues, then I want to move to your school.

Elementary PE teachers have just one class of kids (24 in our school).

If middle and high school PE classes can be held outside, then why not elementary?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two recesses
But we are in Frederick, MD.

Do people not know the difference between PE and recess?

Free time running around is all they need in ES. So you can stop the eye roll, genius.

You're one of the reasons we got the hell out of Mont. Co. There are far too many of "you" who think you know it all. just plain nasty - and ignorant, in my opinion

Good riddance . . .

Well you fit right in, in Frederick. Dumb as rocks.

There was no question about free time or recess.

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Anonymous wrote:two recesses
But we are in Frederick, MD.

Do people not know the difference between PE and recess?

Free time running around is all they need in ES. So you can stop the eye roll, genius.

You're one of the reasons we got the hell out of Mont. Co. There are far too many of "you" who think you know it all. just plain nasty - and ignorant, in my opinion

Good riddance . . .

MCPS has the lowest PE allowed in the entire state. The fact that these PE teachers won't consider outside activities is pretty strange.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids and my youngest is in 4th and none of them have ever had one day outside for PE. With all of this talk of fresh air, vitamin D, more exercise, mental health - why are they stuck in stuffy gyms with no AC when it is beautiful outside. No running, no kickball, no baseball, no full field soccer. It just seems like a terrible idea. Is this a county-wide rule?

Who cares.

MCPS has the bare minimum in the country for Phys Ed in ES: 30 minutes a week.

Pathetic.

lovely

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids and my youngest is in 4th and none of them have ever had one day outside for PE. With all of this talk of fresh air, vitamin D, more exercise, mental health - why are they stuck in stuffy gyms with no AC when it is beautiful outside. No running, no kickball, no baseball, no full field soccer. It just seems like a terrible idea. Is this a county-wide rule?

Aaaaaand this is the reason some parents chose private. Stupid and detrimental policies...........

Please. By sending my kid to public school, I save 40K a year, enough to pay for any outdoor enrichment, tutor or travel activity imaginable. Fussing over the location of a once a week PE class is stupid. Half the time it's too cold or too hot to go out anyway.

Not the PP, but I have one in private and they go out unless it is pouring. They play in snow, light rain, cold weather and hot weather. MCPS 32 degrees policy (including wind chill) is a joke. Privates have recess everyday and PE 4x a week too. But moving along....

What outdoor enrichment are you doing? My one in public ES gets home about 10min to sunset in the winter. How do you get your child outside for enrichment in the dark? Do they play under the lights somewhere? I can't stand when they are inside all day because it was sunny but "only 30 degrees" so they sit inside and watch TV instead. I would love for even that one week PE to be outside no matter what the temp. There are kids seriously not outside all day every day 5 days a week from Nov-March. It must be the "I want a controlled environment parents" that prefer unhealthy kids staring at screens.

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Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids and my youngest is in 4th and none of them have ever had one day outside for PE. With all of this talk of fresh air, vitamin D, more exercise, mental health - why are they stuck in stuffy gyms with no AC when it is beautiful outside. No running, no kickball, no baseball, no full field soccer. It just seems like a terrible idea. Is this a county-wide rule?

What school district are you in? Honestly, this is so shocking to me and makes me so sad. I agree with you - what a terrible, terrible idea. I can't imagine growing up and never being outside for recess??

NP. We are at a Gaithersburg ES and my kids have outdoor PE often.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids and my youngest is in 4th and none of them have ever had one day outside for PE. With all of this talk of fresh air, vitamin D, more exercise, mental health - why are they stuck in stuffy gyms with no AC when it is beautiful outside. No running, no kickball, no baseball, no full field soccer. It just seems like a terrible idea. Is this a county-wide rule?

Aaaaaand this is the reason some parents chose private. Stupid and detrimental policies...........

Please. By sending my kid to public school, I save 40K a year, enough to pay for any outdoor enrichment, tutor or travel activity imaginable. Fussing over the location of a once a week PE class is stupid. Half the time it's too cold or too hot to go out anyway.

Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids and my youngest is in 4th and none of them have ever had one day outside for PE. With all of this talk of fresh air, vitamin D, more exercise, mental health - why are they stuck in stuffy gyms with no AC when it is beautiful outside. No running, no kickball, no baseball, no full field soccer. It just seems like a terrible idea. Is this a county-wide rule?

Aaaaaand this is the reason some parents chose private. Stupid and detrimental policies...........

Anonymous wrote:I have 3 kids and my youngest is in 4th and none of them have ever had one day outside for PE. With all of this talk of fresh air, vitamin D, more exercise, mental health - why are they stuck in stuffy gyms with no AC when it is beautiful outside. No running, no kickball, no baseball, no full field soccer. It just seems like a terrible idea. Is this a county-wide rule?

What school district are you in? Honestly, this is so shocking to me and makes me so sad. I agree with you - what a terrible, terrible idea. I can't imagine growing up and never being outside for recess??

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is harder to control the kids when they are spread out. Some gym teachers would rather not deal with unruly students outdoors. Also, when they only have 30-40 minutes, maybe they don't want to waste 10 minutes going outside.

At our ES, PEs were 2 regular classes combined. Thus, a single PE class was around 50 kids. I can only imagine the additional challenges in lining up 50 kids for outdoor PE as well as dealing with a few strong personalities.

This thread has convinced me that PE should be inside.

You rather have 50 kids inside one gym playing indoor soccer, maybe getting a 5 minute turn once out of the 35-40min - than outside playing on a full size soccer field?

And since when is it a challenge to line up kids for PE or anything else? Do teachers just not have a backbone anymore? It is no different than lining up an entire grade to and from recess. These excuses are laughable.

Also, why don't you have two PE teachers? When we had portables, we received PT special teachers to help with the influx. Why doesn't your school have that option?

Yes, I would rather have them in a controlled environment, without needing access to locked doors. A para previously commented on this pretty eloquently. MCPS cannot have the building doors unsecured anymore.

School has 1 PE teacher for the 50 kids in the period. Blame MCPS for that.

Have you ever volunteered at recess? If so, then you have surely seen challenges keeping them in line. If you haven't seen these issues, then I want to move to your school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is harder to control the kids when they are spread out. Some gym teachers would rather not deal with unruly students outdoors. Also, when they only have 30-40 minutes, maybe they don't want to waste 10 minutes going outside.

At our ES, PEs were 2 regular classes combined. Thus, a single PE class was around 50 kids. I can only imagine the additional challenges in lining up 50 kids for outdoor PE as well as dealing with a few strong personalities.

This thread has convinced me that PE should be inside.

You rather have 50 kids inside one gym playing indoor soccer, maybe getting a 5 minute turn once out of the 35-40min - than outside playing on a full size soccer field?

And since when is it a challenge to line up kids for PE or anything else? Do teachers just not have a backbone anymore? It is no different than lining up an entire grade to and from recess. These excuses are laughable.

Also, why don't you have two PE teachers? When we had portables, we received PT special teachers to help with the influx. Why doesn't your school have that option?

Anonymous wrote:Our gym is inside the building and the fields are a good 8 minute walk from the building. Not surprising that teachers don't want to waste time getting the kids to and from the fields.

Dude, what school is this 8 minute walk to the fields? Same for recess too? I call BS