Anonymous
10/15/2018 16:02
Subject: Re:FCPS Poverty Rates
You haven't offered a clear definition of what it means for a school to be "overburdened." Title I schools get extra funds and have smaller classes and more teaching assistants than other schools. In FCPS and other area jurisdictions, many of the best principals and other administrators are assigned to those schools. And FCPS is building more new schools in eastern Fairfax than just about anywhere else in the county (new building at Glasgow, Mason Crest, Bailey's Upper, plans to expand Stuart/Justice, etc.).
And, just where do you think those funds come from? The pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?
The SB asked for extra funds from the feds when we had the influx of unaccompanied minors. Nothing extra was given.
Yes, Title I funds come from the feds--that does not mean it is "free." And, FCPS also gives additional funds for extra staffing in Title I schools that comes from our local funding. So, you please tell me, where is it coming from? It is money that is being taken from the rest of the kids.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 15:46
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
DP. There are plenty of both extremes in FCPS. They aren't mutually exclusive. Eastern Fairfax, for example, is overburdened with FARMS. That is not an anti-FARMS judgment, it's just a statement of fact.
+1
It's a statement of fact that parts of eastern Fairfax have high FARMS rates. It's an expression of opinion as to whether they are "overburdened." Other suburban, urban and rural areas have FARMS rates that are just as high, or higher. Included in the suburban areas with higher FARMS rates are parts of Prince William County.
So because other areas are also overburdened, no school is overburdened? I don't think the solution is denying it. I'm not sure what your agenda is, but I have kids in a Title 1 school in easten Fairfax, and the school is definitely overburdened. There is a high correlation between high FARMS rates and lower parental involvement, which places a high burden on teachers. I'm not sure what the solution is, but denying it definitely isn't the best course of action.
You haven't offered a clear definition of what it means for a school to be "overburdened." Title I schools get extra funds and have smaller classes and more teaching assistants than other schools. In FCPS and other area jurisdictions, many of the best principals and other administrators are assigned to those schools. And FCPS is building more new schools in eastern Fairfax than just about anywhere else in the county (new building at Glasgow, Mason Crest, Bailey's Upper, plans to expand Stuart/Justice, etc.).
DP- so all of the best educators and administrators are concentrated in the struggling schools, leaving the average faculty to whatever is left?
Anonymous
10/15/2018 15:27
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
DP. There are plenty of both extremes in FCPS. They aren't mutually exclusive. Eastern Fairfax, for example, is overburdened with FARMS. That is not an anti-FARMS judgment, it's just a statement of fact.
+1
It's a statement of fact that parts of eastern Fairfax have high FARMS rates. It's an expression of opinion as to whether they are "overburdened." Other suburban, urban and rural areas have FARMS rates that are just as high, or higher. Included in the suburban areas with higher FARMS rates are parts of Prince William County.
So because other areas are also overburdened, no school is overburdened? I don't think the solution is denying it. I'm not sure what your agenda is, but I have kids in a Title 1 school in easten Fairfax, and the school is definitely overburdened. There is a high correlation between high FARMS rates and lower parental involvement, which places a high burden on teachers. I'm not sure what the solution is, but denying it definitely isn't the best course of action.
You haven't offered a clear definition of what it means for a school to be "overburdened." Title I schools get extra funds and have smaller classes and more teaching assistants than other schools. In FCPS and other area jurisdictions, many of the best principals and other administrators are assigned to those schools. And FCPS is building more new schools in eastern Fairfax than just about anywhere else in the county (new building at Glasgow, Mason Crest, Bailey's Upper, plans to expand Stuart/Justice, etc.).
Anonymous
10/15/2018 14:23
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
DP. There are plenty of both extremes in FCPS. They aren't mutually exclusive. Eastern Fairfax, for example, is overburdened with FARMS. That is not an anti-FARMS judgment, it's just a statement of fact.
+1
It's a statement of fact that parts of eastern Fairfax have high FARMS rates. It's an expression of opinion as to whether they are "overburdened." Other suburban, urban and rural areas have FARMS rates that are just as high, or higher. Included in the suburban areas with higher FARMS rates are parts of Prince William County.
So because other areas are also overburdened, no school is overburdened? I don't think the solution is denying it. I'm not sure what your agenda is, but I have kids in a Title 1 school in easten Fairfax, and the school is definitely overburdened. There is a high correlation between high FARMS rates and lower parental involvement, which places a high burden on teachers. I'm not sure what the solution is, but denying it definitely isn't the best course of action.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 13:28
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all surprised. Once Prince William pushed out illegal immigrants (and their children), they came to Fairfax and Montgomery.
NP. I'm a liberal, but I'm afraid this is largely correct, though some smaller portion of the increase is probably due to the widening economic inequality after the financial crisis.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4718b2ae0fef
School officials said there is evidence that some immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.
“People were driven out of Prince William by the intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet for people who want to live in a tolerant society.”
14,000 represents about 7-8% of FCPS enrollment in the earlier part of this decade. If these students are massively concentrated at a few schools, that multiplies the impact.
And during the same 2008-14 period, the Hispanic enrollment in Prince William, which was well under 1/2 the size of FCPS, increased by almost 10,000 students, a faster rate of growth than in Fairfax.
Links? I've seen several article that say the opposite (including the one cited above).
These families poured into Fairfax and you can see it in our schools as well as the Montgomery County schools. Montgomery county is much worse off because of it though. Their test scores and high school graduation rates dropped like stones. No one likes to talk about those facts though. And we are supposed to be quiet and not point these things out because their education is more important than our children's apparently according to politicians.
You can go to the Virginia Department of Education site and check the division-wide statistics by ethnicity.
In the 2014-15 school year, after Prince William had supposedly cracked down, Fairfax had 185,563 students, 45,084 of whom were Hispanic (24.3%), and Prince William had 86,664 students, 27,356 of whom were Hispanic (31.6%). Last year (2017-18), FCPS was 25.8% Hispanic and PWCPS was 34.1%.
Ultimately, this statistic depends more on housing affordability and birth rates than statements by politicians of either party, but since that's the case it seems like it's better to be welcoming than to be a hostile and racist.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 12:52
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all surprised. Once Prince William pushed out illegal immigrants (and their children), they came to Fairfax and Montgomery.
NP. I'm a liberal, but I'm afraid this is largely correct, though some smaller portion of the increase is probably due to the widening economic inequality after the financial crisis.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4718b2ae0fef
School officials said there is evidence that some immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.
“People were driven out of Prince William by the intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet for people who want to live in a tolerant society.”
14,000 represents about 7-8% of FCPS enrollment in the earlier part of this decade. If these students are massively concentrated at a few schools, that multiplies the impact.
And during the same 2008-14 period, the Hispanic enrollment in Prince William, which was well under 1/2 the size of FCPS, increased by almost 10,000 students, a faster rate of growth than in Fairfax.
Links? I've seen several article that say the opposite (including the one cited above).
These families poured into Fairfax and you can see it in our schools as well as the Montgomery County schools. Montgomery county is much worse off because of it though. Their test scores and high school graduation rates dropped like stones. No one likes to talk about those facts though. And we are supposed to be quiet and not point these things out because their education is more important than our children's apparently according to politicians.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 11:28
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all surprised. Once Prince William pushed out illegal immigrants (and their children), they came to Fairfax and Montgomery.
NP. I'm a liberal, but I'm afraid this is largely correct, though some smaller portion of the increase is probably due to the widening economic inequality after the financial crisis.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4718b2ae0fef
School officials said there is evidence that some immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.
“People were driven out of Prince William by the intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet for people who want to live in a tolerant society.”
14,000 represents about 7-8% of FCPS enrollment in the earlier part of this decade. If these students are massively concentrated at a few schools, that multiplies the impact.
And during the same 2008-14 period, the Hispanic enrollment in Prince William, which was well under 1/2 the size of FCPS, increased by almost 10,000 students, a faster rate of growth than in Fairfax.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 11:27
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all surprised. Once Prince William pushed out illegal immigrants (and their children), they came to Fairfax and Montgomery.
NP. I'm a liberal, but I'm afraid this is largely correct, though some smaller portion of the increase is probably due to the widening economic inequality after the financial crisis.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4718b2ae0fef
School officials said there is evidence that some immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.
“People were driven out of Prince William by the intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet for people who want to live in a tolerant society.”
14,000 represents about 7-8% of FCPS enrollment in the earlier part of this decade. If these students are massively concentrated at a few schools, that multiplies the impact.
And during the same 2008-14 period, the Hispanic enrollment in Prince William, which was well under 1/2 the size of FCPS, increased by almost 10,000 students, a faster rate of growth than in Fairfax.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 11:17
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Not at all surprised. Once Prince William pushed out illegal immigrants (and their children), they came to Fairfax and Montgomery.
NP. I'm a liberal, but I'm afraid this is largely correct, though some smaller portion of the increase is probably due to the widening economic inequality after the financial crisis.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4718b2ae0fef
School officials said there is evidence that some immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.
“People were driven out of Prince William by the intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet for people who want to live in a tolerant society.”
14,000 represents about 7-8% of FCPS enrollment in the earlier part of this decade. If these students are massively concentrated at a few schools, that multiplies the impact.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 10:34
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
DP. There are plenty of both extremes in FCPS. They aren't mutually exclusive. Eastern Fairfax, for example, is overburdened with FARMS. That is not an anti-FARMS judgment, it's just a statement of fact.
+1
It's a statement of fact that parts of eastern Fairfax have high FARMS rates. It's an expression of opinion as to whether they are "overburdened." Other suburban, urban and rural areas have FARMS rates that are just as high, or higher. Included in the suburban areas with higher FARMS rates are parts of Prince William County.
Cool. I think it’s great to concentrate poverty. Smart smart smart! Overburdened was such a triggering word! Let’s switch to piling up, or collecting!
Anonymous
10/15/2018 10:11
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
DP. There are plenty of both extremes in FCPS. They aren't mutually exclusive. Eastern Fairfax, for example, is overburdened with FARMS. That is not an anti-FARMS judgment, it's just a statement of fact.
+1
It's a statement of fact that parts of eastern Fairfax have high FARMS rates. It's an expression of opinion as to whether they are "overburdened." Other suburban, urban and rural areas have FARMS rates that are just as high, or higher. Included in the suburban areas with higher FARMS rates are parts of Prince William County.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 09:11
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
DP. There are plenty of both extremes in FCPS. They aren't mutually exclusive. Eastern Fairfax, for example, is overburdened with FARMS. That is not an anti-FARMS judgment, it's just a statement of fact.
+1
Anonymous
10/15/2018 05:38
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
DP. There are plenty of both extremes in FCPS. They aren't mutually exclusive. Eastern Fairfax, for example, is overburdened with FARMS. That is not an anti-FARMS judgment, it's just a statement of fact.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 04:38
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all surprised. Once Prince William pushed out illegal immigrants (and their children), they came to Fairfax and Montgomery.
You do know that the poverty rate in PWCPS is considerably higher than in FCPS, right? Go plant your Corey Stewart sign somewhere else.
Uh yeah. And that's how they pushed some of their poverty over on our side...By actually enforcing occupancy ordinances in the county. Gee, there is a thought! I wish that would happen here. I'm no Corey Stewart fan.
Anonymous
10/15/2018 00:00
Subject: FCPS Poverty Rates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somewhere between 15-21 % of children in the US are living in poverty.
I’m not certain if those numbers are stable or not, but it would appear the DC is over burdened.
You are not using the same figures. FARMS eligibility is not the same as "living in poverty."
There are many states poorer than Virginia, and many parts of Virginia with higher FARMS rates that FCPS and APS (which is higher than FCPS). But I'm guessing poor whites in Lee and Wise County don't push your button like poor Hispanics in Fairfax.
Stfu. I made zero mention of race.
The only thing the DC area is over-burdened with are the number of the nation’s wealthiest jurisdictions. You are a moron.
Try not to be an idiot.
You can have both extreme wealth and poverty. But please do go one about your outstanding school
Pyramid. Liberal hypocrisy never gets old for me.
You are misrepresenting facts and making false assumptions. It truly must suck to be as stupid and bitter as you are, especially at the same time.
And Are you unhinged. Try not to let math make you cry.