Anonymous
09/20/2018 10:18
Subject: Re:Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:I don't trust my elementary school to give my kid's 504 to the teachers, so I certainly don't trust them to handle something as serious as this. The school is covering their behind and DCPS makes sure of that. I"m not bashing Janney. I think they are probably doing what they legally can to make sure incidents don't happen. But to say to trust them blindly is so naive.
Exactly. There are absolutely legal restraints in what the school can tell parents (FERPA and possibly union rights). But, you should never just assume that the school is going to do the right thing. We dealt with an abusive teacher's aid, and it took an actual criminal threat to be made against another staffer by this guy (plus coming to school intoxicated) for him to be finally removed. Now he was just "mean" to our child, there wasn't anything physical. But he was clearly unfit to work with kids, and many parents had made complaints about it, but the principal did not do anything until it got really, really bad. If this counselor actually hit a kid (what it sounds like) then I assume that other teachers and parents and students had noticed that he had a short fuse and lacked the skills needed to deal with kids. What Janney parents need to be pressing on is not THIS incident (because they are not entitled legally to more info) but rather how the school monitors staff to ensure that they're fit to be around kids.
Anonymous
09/20/2018 10:14
Subject: Janney incident
I love that I don't have to go on FB to see vague posts!
Anonymous
09/20/2018 10:06
Subject: Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[/b]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard it was really bad. Don't know if I should give details on dcum.
I respect you not wanting to say anything but I also don’t understand.
Why take a chance someone gets hurt again? Do we fully put our trust in the school to do what’s best for our children once an incident has already occurred? Training sessions might work but they also may not work? What if additional staff is involved and it’s not uncovered? I need to know that my children OUR children are safe. I don’t want to leave this in the hands of a school that has already failed at least one child and parent(s).
Coverups are not okay And sweeping this under the rug is not okay. I will be following up with the police department tomorrow to verify if a police report has been filed.
-OP
NP. Either you trust the school and staff or you don't. Your lack of trust isn't more important than privacy.
This is why people get away with hurting kids and we have to wait until they become adults and speak up.
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+1
Whoops, I meant to +1 this:
This is why people get away with hurting kids and we have to wait until they become adults and speak up.
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+
What a bizarre and irrational post - no one is being silent or being allowed to get away with anything. The person has been removed from their position and both the school and DC Police are investigating. Just because an email has not gone out to the parents providing every last detail about the incident doesn't mean it is being covered up.
I agree with the bizarreness of the formatting, and I apologize for that.
However, there is nothing bizarre or irrational about the post I clumbsily +1'ed.
When folks choose to, or are pressured to, blindly trust that Authority will do the right thing in all students' best interest and that Authority would have already taken action if it was necessary, Authority gets the leeway it needs to put its own interest before students'. I've seen it plenty of times before.
Anonymous
09/20/2018 10:04
Subject: Re:Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:If you are a Janney parent, call or talk to the principal instead of speculating on a website.
Exactly, speculating on an anon message board does nothing but inflame the masses. The first paragraph of the letter tells you all you need to know:
1. There was an incident
2. One counselor and one student (this answers the question of whether others are involved)
3. Counselor no longer at Janney+ (no risk of immediate harm to other students)
4. Formal investigation is underway (facts are still being gathering)
5. Legal limits on what can be shared (are you suggesting that the school administration break the law just bc you are all curious)
Also, please consider that we are all entitled to due process and that anyone accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. The whole point on an investigation is to get the facts right and then take appropriate action.
Anonymous
09/20/2018 09:25
Subject: Janney incident
[/b]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard it was really bad. Don't know if I should give details on dcum.
I respect you not wanting to say anything but I also don’t understand.
Why take a chance someone gets hurt again? Do we fully put our trust in the school to do what’s best for our children once an incident has already occurred? Training sessions might work but they also may not work? What if additional staff is involved and it’s not uncovered? I need to know that my children OUR children are safe. I don’t want to leave this in the hands of a school that has already failed at least one child and parent(s).
Coverups are not okay And sweeping this under the rug is not okay. I will be following up with the police department tomorrow to verify if a police report has been filed.
-OP
NP. Either you trust the school and staff or you don't. Your lack of trust isn't more important than privacy.
This is why people get away with hurting kids and we have to wait until they become adults and speak up.
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+1
Whoops, I meant to +1 this:
This is why people get away with hurting kids and we have to wait until they become adults and speak up.
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+
What a bizarre and irrational post - no one is being silent or being allowed to get away with anything. The person has been removed from their position and both the school and DC Police are investigating. Just because an email has not gone out to the parents providing every last detail about the incident doesn't mean it is being covered up.
Anonymous
09/20/2018 09:10
Subject: Re:Janney incident
I don't trust my elementary school to give my kid's 504 to the teachers, so I certainly don't trust them to handle something as serious as this. The school is covering their behind and DCPS makes sure of that. I"m not bashing Janney. I think they are probably doing what they legally can to make sure incidents don't happen. But to say to trust them blindly is so naive.
Anonymous
09/20/2018 08:54
Subject: Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard it was really bad. Don't know if I should give details on dcum.
I respect you not wanting to say anything but I also don’t understand.
Why take a chance someone gets hurt again? Do we fully put our trust in the school to do what’s best for our children once an incident has already occurred? Training sessions might work but they also may not work? What if additional staff is involved and it’s not uncovered? I need to know that my children OUR children are safe. I don’t want to leave this in the hands of a school that has already failed at least one child and parent(s).
Coverups are not okay And sweeping this under the rug is not okay. I will be following up with the police department tomorrow to verify if a police report has been filed.
-OP
NP. Either you trust the school and staff or you don't. Your lack of trust isn't more important than privacy.
This is why people get away with hurting kids and we have to wait until they become adults and speak up.
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+1
Whoops, I meant to +1 this:
This is why people get away with hurting kids and we have to wait until they become adults and speak up.
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+
Anonymous
09/20/2018 08:53
Subject: Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard it was really bad. Don't know if I should give details on dcum.
I respect you not wanting to say anything but I also don’t understand.
Why take a chance someone gets hurt again? Do we fully put our trust in the school to do what’s best for our children once an incident has already occurred? Training sessions might work but they also may not work? What if additional staff is involved and it’s not uncovered? I need to know that my children OUR children are safe. I don’t want to leave this in the hands of a school that has already failed at least one child and parent(s).
Coverups are not okay And sweeping this under the rug is not okay. I will be following up with the police department tomorrow to verify if a police report has been filed.
-OP
NP. Either you trust the school and staff or you don't. Your lack of trust isn't more important than privacy.
This is why people get away with hurting kids and we have to wait until they become adults and speak up.
You’re part of a broad issue with society Good luck to your kids with their “privacy”
+1
Anonymous
09/20/2018 08:51
Subject: Re:Janney incident
If you are a Janney parent, call or talk to the principal instead of speculating on a website.
Anonymous
09/20/2018 08:49
Subject: Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Should be easy to figure out based on who is no longer around.
Was it just one person involved?
Anonymous
09/20/2018 08:09
Subject: Janney incident
Should be easy to figure out based on who is no longer around.
Anonymous
09/19/2018 23:42
Subject: Re:Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We saw an email from one of the parents of the child involved since we have kids in the same class and even they are not identifying the staffer though there are some pretty strong hints of who it is.
The story as we've heard it struck us as sort of improbable so I'm not going to repeat it in case it is not true but strange things do happen so we are going to reserve judgement.
According to a source who would know the police are conducting an investigation - if the story as we heard it is accurate I would assume charges will be filed.
In any case one of our children regularly dealt with the staffer that is hinted at and has nothing but positive things to say about he/she but we have a lot of faith that the school will handle this appropriately so I have no idea why some parents (or supposed ones since there is a lot of Janney trolling on DCUM) are already getting hysterical about this and in our years at Janney we've been in a couple of the classes that we are the center of some controversies that have blown up at the school and on here.
But there won't be a police report for weeks so good luck to hysterical parents calling tomorrow asking for one.
You seem to have access to a lot of information some are only hoping for to ease their minds. It’s easy to point out someone else being hysterical when you have the information you would need to be at ease.
Look the school knows who the person is and is dealing with it - there isn't some unknown predator inflicting potential additional harm in the school community.
As I said if the story is true I suspect this person will be facing charges and the police apparently are involved.
Since you seem to know who the suspect is, can you tell us if this person is also on staff at Janney? You say the “school” is dealing with it and I’m not sure if that refers to Janney+ or Janney itself or both.
Anonymous
09/19/2018 23:37
Subject: Re:Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We saw an email from one of the parents of the child involved since we have kids in the same class and even they are not identifying the staffer though there are some pretty strong hints of who it is.
The story as we've heard it struck us as sort of improbable so I'm not going to repeat it in case it is not true but strange things do happen so we are going to reserve judgement.
According to a source who would know the police are conducting an investigation - if the story as we heard it is accurate I would assume charges will be filed.
In any case one of our children regularly dealt with the staffer that is hinted at and has nothing but positive things to say about he/she but we have a lot of faith that the school will handle this appropriately so I have no idea why some parents (or supposed ones since there is a lot of Janney trolling on DCUM) are already getting hysterical about this and in our years at Janney we've been in a couple of the classes that we are the center of some controversies that have blown up at the school and on here.
But there won't be a police report for weeks so good luck to hysterical parents calling tomorrow asking for one.
Thank you I will be calling.
- signed a Janney parent
Me too!
- Hysterical Janney Parent
Anonymous
09/19/2018 23:34
Subject: Re:Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We saw an email from one of the parents of the child involved since we have kids in the same class and even they are not identifying the staffer though there are some pretty strong hints of who it is.
The story as we've heard it struck us as sort of improbable so I'm not going to repeat it in case it is not true but strange things do happen so we are going to reserve judgement.
According to a source who would know the police are conducting an investigation - if the story as we heard it is accurate I would assume charges will be filed.
In any case one of our children regularly dealt with the staffer that is hinted at and has nothing but positive things to say about he/she but we have a lot of faith that the school will handle this appropriately so I have no idea why some parents (or supposed ones since there is a lot of Janney trolling on DCUM) are already getting hysterical about this and in our years at Janney we've been in a couple of the classes that we are the center of some controversies that have blown up at the school and on here.
But there won't be a police report for weeks so good luck to hysterical parents calling tomorrow asking for one.
You seem to have access to a lot of information some are only hoping for to ease their minds. It’s easy to point out someone else being hysterical when you have the information you would need to be at ease.
Look the school knows who the person is and is dealing with it - there isn't some unknown predator inflicting potential additional harm in the school community.
As I said if the story is true I suspect this person will be facing charges and the police apparently are involved.
Anonymous
09/19/2018 23:33
Subject: Re:Janney incident
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We saw an email from one of the parents of the child involved since we have kids in the same class and even they are not identifying the staffer though there are some pretty strong hints of who it is.
The story as we've heard it struck us as sort of improbable so I'm not going to repeat it in case it is not true but strange things do happen so we are going to reserve judgement.
According to a source who would know the police are conducting an investigation - if the story as we heard it is accurate I would assume charges will be filed.
In any case one of our children regularly dealt with the staffer that is hinted at and has nothing but positive things to say about he/she but we have a lot of faith that the school will handle this appropriately so I have no idea why some parents (or supposed ones since there is a lot of Janney trolling on DCUM) are already getting hysterical about this and in our years at Janney we've been in a couple of the classes that we are the center of some controversies that have blown up at the school and on here.
But there won't be a police report for weeks so good luck to hysterical parents calling tomorrow asking for one.
You seem to have access to a lot of information some are only hoping for to ease their minds. It’s easy to point out someone else being hysterical when you have the information you would need to be at ease.
+1,000