Anonymous
09/07/2018 07:38
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A slightly off color joke could get you slapped with sexual harassment. If a group laughed at said joke, they get one too.
My husband told me he would never hire a woman. I can't blame him. They are TROUBLE. Although he does work with women, he won't hire one.
I’d be safe to say your husband is a dick!
No he is just careful. There are so many stories about sexual harassment floating around in corporate America. I know many who just do risk migration- no female mentoring, no drinks after work, always have another woman in the room, etc.
Anonymous
09/07/2018 07:13
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DH was sued for harassment by a woman he had terminated for poor performance. It was dismissed when he provided numerous memos to HR outlining her performance and her bitterness in dealing with poor evaluations. In addition, many women he worked with over the years submitted letters of support for him as well as saying what a bad apple the woman was. It was an awful thing for my DH to go through and I'm sure it has affected his working relationships with women.
This.
My DH will not take a meeting alone with a woman. He won't even have a woman in his office without another person present. He had one crazy once who claimed harrassment (the woman was eventually terminated) and after that experience wont ever be alone with any female in a work environment.
He should be cautious treating women so differently from men at work.
In my experience, men file more complaints. Women may file more sex harrassment cases, but men are active users of the eeo process to get what they want. The reality is that there is nnothing you can do to avoid a false complaint. But if you're actually discriminating against women to avoid complaints, then it won't be a false complaint.
Anonymous
09/07/2018 07:06
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DH was sued for harassment by a woman he had terminated for poor performance. It was dismissed when he provided numerous memos to HR outlining her performance and her bitterness in dealing with poor evaluations. In addition, many women he worked with over the years submitted letters of support for him as well as saying what a bad apple the woman was. It was an awful thing for my DH to go through and I'm sure it has affected his working relationships with women.
This.
My DH will not take a meeting alone with a woman. He won't even have a woman in his office without another person present. He had one crazy once who claimed harrassment (the woman was eventually terminated) and after that experience wont ever be alone with any female in a work environment.
greetings to our second lady, welcome Karen to DCUM!
Anonymous
09/07/2018 07:01
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:My DH was sued for harassment by a woman he had terminated for poor performance. It was dismissed when he provided numerous memos to HR outlining her performance and her bitterness in dealing with poor evaluations. In addition, many women he worked with over the years submitted letters of support for him as well as saying what a bad apple the woman was. It was an awful thing for my DH to go through and I'm sure it has affected his working relationships with women.
This.
My DH will not take a meeting alone with a woman. He won't even have a woman in his office without another person present. He had one crazy once who claimed harrassment (the woman was eventually terminated) and after that experience wont ever be alone with any female in a work environment.
Anonymous
09/07/2018 06:45
Subject: Spouse sued for sexual harassment
I won’t work for men who have SAHWs. IME they tend to think women are “trouble.” My favorite boss made millions a year and his wife was a schoolteacher the whole time.
Anonymous
09/07/2018 06:35
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A slightly off color joke could get you slapped with sexual harassment. If a group laughed at said joke, they get one too.
My husband told me he would never hire a woman. I can't blame him. They are TROUBLE. Although he does work with women, he won't hire one.
I’d be safe to say your husband is a dick!
If you called him this in the office would that be sexual harassment, discrimination or a hostile work environment??
How could I if he doesn’t hire women. Men like this are bad, but the women and support their partners who share this philosophy are pathetic. I bet you supported Trump.
Anonymous
09/06/2018 22:21
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A slightly off color joke could get you slapped with sexual harassment. If a group laughed at said joke, they get one too.
My husband told me he would never hire a woman. I can't blame him. They are TROUBLE. Although he does work with women, he won't hire one.
I’d be safe to say your husband is a dick!
If you called him this in the office would that be sexual harassment, discrimination or a hostile work environment??
Anonymous
09/06/2018 20:36
Subject: Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Women who falsely claim sexual harassment in retaliation or because they don't like their boss/coworker are despicable. Way to set women back 50 years. Can't say I blame men for being wary of women in the workplace. This happens way too often and it's pathetic.
Anonymous
09/06/2018 19:59
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m an attorney for a large company. The majority of sexual harassment cases I see arr bogus. Of course there are legit cases that should not be minimized, but I would want to know more if my husband was accused of this.
How exactly do you know most of them are bogus? You don't know at all.
DP who has been in-house and outside employment counsel.
Yes, you do often know. You would be amazed the number of times people admit to false claims when talking to friends on social media or even their company email. Plenty of other times, you can prove major aspects of the case are false, for example a claim an employee was harassed at a conference the alleged harasser did not attend. Others have timelines and other factors where it is exceedingly unlikely the complaint has merits.
Of course, there are also cases where it is obvious the person is guilty, and plenty of cases where the evidence is ambiguous.
Thank you. It's a sad world out there. So many liars. My kid in an elite public HS says her friends' parents tell their kids, "Lie, but don't get caught."
Anonymous
09/06/2018 19:50
Subject: Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg I am on DCUM too much but there was a post like this in the last year or so. Someone whose DH worked in a remote location was part of a group of men accused of sexual harassment.
Yes! Was just thinking about that.
Me, three! DCUM, more addictive than crack.
I remember this also, whatever happened with that?
Anonymous
09/06/2018 19:46
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m an attorney for a large company. The majority of sexual harassment cases I see arr bogus. Of course there are legit cases that should not be minimized, but I would want to know more if my husband was accused of this.
How exactly do you know most of them are bogus? You don't know at all.
DP who has been in-house and outside employment counsel.
Yes, you do often know. You would be amazed the number of times people admit to false claims when talking to friends on social media or even their company email. Plenty of other times, you can prove major aspects of the case are false, for example a claim an employee was harassed at a conference the alleged harasser did not attend. Others have timelines and other factors where it is exceedingly unlikely the complaint has merits.
Of course, there are also cases where it is obvious the person is guilty, and plenty of cases where the evidence is ambiguous.
Anonymous
09/06/2018 19:37
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:It’s usually the victim that sues not the employer. Are you saying the employer paid the victim off to settle? If so, Spouse is likely very guilty. Complaints are public. I’d go online and see if I could get a copy from the CourtHouse or go there. Why hasn’t your Spouse told you what happened? You seem super naive and way too trusting.
No. And no. Many complaints that are of at best dubious merits are settled, often for nominal amounts which just aren't worth fighting over, particularly if the settlement involves the problem employee leaving. And complaints would only be public if an actual lawsuit was filed. There are many stages where a complaint would not be public and one reason these cases sometimes settle quickly is that neither side wants a public lawsuit.
Anonymous
09/06/2018 19:32
Subject: Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Guy here: I’ve had a woman at work pull me into HR for sexual discrimination because I didn’t hire her. I didn’t hire her because she wasn’t a good fit for the role. I had a pretty meticulous examination from HR and I had a LOT of explaining to do. It turns out that I was the 5th guy she had pulled into HR for various reasons.
How did you manage the situation with your spouse? Was she aware of the situation from the beginning? That's what really relevant here.
Harassment and discrimination are qualitatively very different. Certainly within the context of marital fidelity/honesty.
I’m just saying that a false claim by a crazy person is not outside the realm of possibility.
But my boss was mean to me.
Anonymous
09/06/2018 18:49
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:I’m an attorney for a large company. The majority of sexual harassment cases I see arr bogus. Of course there are legit cases that should not be minimized, but I would want to know more if my husband was accused of this.
How exactly do you know most of them are bogus? You don't know at all.
Anonymous
09/06/2018 18:41
Subject: Re:Spouse sued for sexual harassment
Anonymous wrote:A slightly off color joke could get you slapped with sexual harassment. If a group laughed at said joke, they get one too.
My husband told me he would never hire a woman. I can't blame him. They are TROUBLE. Although he does work with women, he won't hire one.
I’d be safe to say your husband is a dick!