Anonymous wrote:We only had 2 out of 8 kids choose to stay local and not go to the Center so the other 22 are all principal placed.

I was very taken aback at how obvious the Center staff was about discouraging parents to choose the Center over local level IV. It was clear they didn't want the kids.

Which school is this?

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Anonymous wrote:“I currently have a 3rd grader at Terra Centre and can vouch that these numbers are accurate. Rumer is that White Oaks AAP is a hot mess so no one wants to transfer.”

Yeah - I think too that the numbers transfering to WO are not the same as who qualifies for AAP4 given those issues.

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You can certainly ask the principal how many kids are AAP qualified per grade at TCES. And then add that to the number who transfer out. It might be enough. If you don't pursue it and ask the community or talk to your school board rep, you will never know. Just remember that even if there are 20 kids per grade who are AAP qualified. And even if there is Local Level 4 at TCES, not all 20 will stay for LL4. You would expect that even then, some will choose to go to a center. Now, it may happen in the next 5 years that they try to put LL4 in most (if not all) schools. I think there are both pros and cons to that. I have heard that they are on the march toward that -- but not sure when or if it will happen. Perhaps your principal or school board member can give you some insight.

As long as there are centers, some of the kids who qualify will go to the center. So, you have to factor that into your equation on how many would make up the LL4 class.

Anonymous wrote:“I currently have a 3rd grader at Terra Centre and can vouch that these numbers are accurate. Rumer is that White Oaks AAP is a hot mess so no one wants to transfer.”

Yeah - I think too that the numbers transfering to WO are not the same as who qualifies for AAP4 given those issues.

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“I currently have a 3rd grader at Terra Centre and can vouch that these numbers are accurate. Rumer is that White Oaks AAP is a hot mess so no one wants to transfer.”

Yeah - I think too that the numbers transfering to WO are not the same as who qualifies for AAP4 given those issues.

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Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”

Can you explain how I see this more?

Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP

Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.

NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?

http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Got it, thank you! Any thoughts on starting a LLIV (or even a center) if there's no LLIV at the base school and approx 50 kids transfer to the center (making up slightly over 1/3 of transfers into the LLIV)?

that’s 12per grade, not really enough for a robust LLIV program.

Our school has about 12 per year too. No LLIV.

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Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”

Can you explain how I see this more?

Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP

Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.

NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?

http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Got it, thank you! Any thoughts on starting a LLIV (or even a center) if there's no LLIV at the base school and approx 50 kids transfer to the center (making up slightly over 1/3 of transfers into the LLIV)?

that’s 12per grade, not really enough for a robust LLIV program.

I currently have a 3rd grader at Terra Centre and can vouch that these numbers are accurate. Rumer is that White Oaks AAP is a hot mess so no one wants to transfer.

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Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”

Can you explain how I see this more?

Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP

Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.

NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?

http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Got it, thank you! Any thoughts on starting a LLIV (or even a center) if there's no LLIV at the base school and approx 50 kids transfer to the center (making up slightly over 1/3 of transfers into the LLIV)?

that’s 12per grade, not really enough for a robust LLIV program.

Our LLIV has fewer than that...

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Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”

Can you explain how I see this more?

Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP

Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.

NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?

http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Got it, thank you! Any thoughts on starting a LLIV (or even a center) if there's no LLIV at the base school and approx 50 kids transfer to the center (making up slightly over 1/3 of transfers into the LLIV)?

that’s 12per grade, not really enough for a robust LLIV program.

“Wouldn't they be better off in a center where the whole classroom is "AAP qualified"?”

Not if you do not want to go to the center so it is a choice if something enriched at the base school or almost nothing there.

“And what will the principal do to fill the rest of the class? She or he will have to pick another 20 kids who did not get invited to AAP based on their test scores. Now that grade will have "the smart class" and the "other" class(es).”

Well, yeah. How else would you be helping differentiate to the kids at the top end outside of the center? In our experience at an ES in FCPS there has been virtually no ability grouping within the class to help differentiate - we had a bit last year but it was so short lived it felt like window dressing almost.

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Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”

Can you explain how I see this more?

Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP

Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.

NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?

http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Got it, thank you! Any thoughts on starting a LLIV (or even a center) if there's no LLIV at the base school and approx 50 kids transfer to the center (making up slightly over 1/3 of transfers into the LLIV)?

That sounds like a disaster basket of mom drama at the LLIV school.

It's possible to get local level 4 for that sort of school, but the bigger issue is why you (or the principal or the school community would want it under those circumstances).

If there are 50 kids transferring out for AAP, then that means about 12 kids per grade. Some of those kids will still choose to go to the center even if your local school get LL4. Does it really do much good for there to be 6 AAP-qualified kids per grade? Wouldn't they be better off in a center where the whole classroom is "AAP qualified"?

And what will the principal do to fill the rest of the class? She or he will have to pick another 20 kids who did not get invited to AAP based on their test scores. Now that grade will have "the smart class" and the "other" class(es). Parents will be campaigning to get their kids into the smart class. And the teacher probably won't be doing what they are doing over at the center and won't have the synergy of having other teacher peers in that grade level... etc.

You have to think through the logistics and the incentives. Just because there are 50 kids going to the AAP center does not mean that they will all stay at the local level 4 school if you get that program. Some people value the energy of the peer group and the teachers having experience with AAP and mutual support in planning AAP lessons.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“-- you can find the number of kids who have transferred out of your school for AAP in the FCPS dashboard site. That will tell you if there are enough kids to make it work. ”

Can you explain how I see this more?

Re: giving the center a chance ...I have an older child there now.
- OP

Visit the FCPS dashboard site at:
http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboar.../enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Select your base school in the left sidebar. Scroll down to the Student Transfers section and find the AAP OUT number. If you divide that number by 4, that should tell you roughly how many are going to the center from each of 3rd-6th grade.

NP. The dashboard link isn't working for me. Could you repost?

http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll17-18.html

Got it, thank you! Any thoughts on starting a LLIV (or even a center) if there's no LLIV at the base school and approx 50 kids transfer to the center (making up slightly over 1/3 of transfers into the LLIV)?