Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact that high “proven” IQ kids don’t always get in on appeal

There were a few with IQs above the cut off for in pool (ex 132 this yr) that didn't get in on first round but it looks like (from reading the AAP forum) they got in on appeal/with additional testing.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this at a center?

No

If it's not at a center then this is very typical. They combine kids who choose to do AAP/Level IV at their base school with all the other kids (Level III and kids who aren't) because there aren't enough kids to justify a full class of AAP.

Exactly. At our school our DD and one other child chose to stay at the local school and not attend the Center (and before someone asks how I know this you can look at the dashboard to see how many centrally placed AAP students a school has in each grade, plus, you see all the other level IV students at the orientation). That meant the other 19 kids are all principal placed as they have to fill the class.

Or some portion of the 19 got in on appeal and did not attend the orientation

No, you can check the numbers per school/grade (and that includes appeals)

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Anonymous wrote:Is this at a center?

No

If it's not at a center then this is very typical. They combine kids who choose to do AAP/Level IV at their base school with all the other kids (Level III and kids who aren't) because there aren't enough kids to justify a full class of AAP.

Exactly. At our school our DD and one other child chose to stay at the local school and not attend the Center (and before someone asks how I know this you can look at the dashboard to see how many centrally placed AAP students a school has in each grade, plus, you see all the other level IV students at the orientation). That meant the other 19 kids are all principal placed as they have to fill the class.

Or some portion of the 19 got in on appeal and did not attend the orientation

Ha. The AAP teachers at our center are not AAP "certified," and some are relatively inexperienced (2-4 years as teachers, one recent graduate). At our Title I base school, the teacher's are more seasoned, and generally better equipped to handle the range of different student abilities (whether they have the time between meetings during the day is another matter). Several of my AAP dc's friends who qualified for AAP decided to remain at the base. Of course, my non-AAP dc's aap-qualified friends left the base. I guess overall things have balanced out on the teacher front. Overall though, AAP has not been very impressive. Though I wish the expectations for gen ed kids were on par with those in AAP. For example, proper grammar and spelling are expected of AAP kids, but these are all but ignored in gen ed.

I know for a fact that high “proven” IQ kids don’t always get in on appeal

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile other kids with proven high IQs aren’t getting in

That's not true. You can appeal and if you have a "proven" high IQ score then you submit it as part of the appeals packet.

OP here. It’s a school with Level IV services but most parents enroll their kids at the AAP center instead. My guess is that some kids then get assigned to the AAP classroom. It does not not mean my kid is now AAP. My understanding of AAP is that it’s same material as gen ed but more in depth. So homework, etc might be different.

Anonymous wrote:DC gets level 2 services only. I thought (level IV) AAP kids were together in class. I’m not complaining but wonder if this is a mistake?

Did you just ask, OP?

Despite all the snarkiness above, none of the self-appointed arbiters of AAP in those posts seems to know that some teachers do teach both AAP classes and general ed classes at schools that are not centers. You said your child was assigned to an AAP teacher but that doesn't necessarily mean that your child was assigned to an AAP classroom.

Ask.

Meanwhile other kids with proven high IQs aren’t getting in

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this at a center?

No

If it's not at a center then this is very typical. They combine kids who choose to do AAP/Level IV at their base school with all the other kids (Level III and kids who aren't) because there aren't enough kids to justify a full class of AAP.

Exactly. At our school our DD and one other child chose to stay at the local school and not attend the Center (and before someone asks how I know this you can look at the dashboard to see how many centrally placed AAP students a school has in each grade, plus, you see all the other level IV students at the orientation). That meant the other 19 kids are all principal placed as they have to fill the class.

NP. Do you have a current link to the dashboard? I googled this and all the links didn't work.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this at a center?

No

If it's not at a center then this is very typical. They combine kids who choose to do AAP/Level IV at their base school with all the other kids (Level III and kids who aren't) because there aren't enough kids to justify a full class of AAP.

Exactly. At our school our DD and one other child chose to stay at the local school and not attend the Center (and before someone asks how I know this you can look at the dashboard to see how many centrally placed AAP students a school has in each grade, plus, you see all the other level IV students at the orientation). That meant the other 19 kids are all principal placed as they have to fill the class.

So your school has a local level IV class with on two level IV eligible students? Honestly curious. Our school doesn’t have LLIV anymore bc as I understand it, it would be too small.

Yep.

It’s how they justify having AAP crap sometimes. Not enough kids so they fill up the class arbitrarily with other students.

Kids who can do the work are given the chance. A fundamental tenet of public education.