Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 06:28     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

One priest raped a girl, got her pregnant, then had her undergo an abortion and his superior wrote a letter of consolation to the rapist priest not the victim.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 06:04     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Not all parochial schools are bad and there is now plenty of abuse in MCPS and some of the local privates.


But in MCPS and some local privates, as you say, OP, it is not a coordinated ring of deception to move teachers around or stall with the police until the statutes of limitation run out.



I agree the Catholic Church is horrible but yes, mcps moves creepy teachers around, does their own investigation which ruins the police investigation, let's them resign instead of being fired, keeps a list of creepy teachers, never calls CPS or the police on suspected pedophiles.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 06:01     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Beware the danger of some ____ are criminals therefore all _____ are criminals (or should be treated like criminals just in case). Our country has a bad history of making that mistake.



I'd agree with you if these were isolated incidents, if the crimes were less gruesome, and in particular if the leadership weren't systematically determined to cover them up and continue to "cover up their cover up" without a shred of remorse as the report describes. As the good people leave the institution in ever greater numbers and the number of pedophiles and abettors start to far exceed the Martin Niemollers, you wonder what is the level of risk that people are willing to expose their children to.


I agree with you but you just literally described how out govt/lawmakers/police treat black people.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 01:23     Subject: Re:Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Ok, this isn't a religion. It's a pedophilic cult that everyone excuses. I never understood why it isn't a full on criminal process- why is the church still in charge?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 00:58     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Not all parochial schools are bad and there is now plenty of abuse in MCPS and some of the local privates.


But in MCPS and some local privates, as you say, OP, it is not a coordinated ring of deception to move teachers around or stall with the police until the statutes of limitation run out.



Yes, it has been a ring. Some of the teachers were moved around or it was hidden.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 00:45     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Not all parochial schools are bad and there is now plenty of abuse in MCPS and some of the local privates.


But in MCPS and some local privates, as you say, OP, it is not a coordinated ring of deception to move teachers around or stall with the police until the statutes of limitation run out.

Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 00:40     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Not all parochial schools are bad and there is now plenty of abuse in MCPS and some of the local privates.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 00:35     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

We stopped going because we didn't want our donations to go to the legal defense funds.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 00:27     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Beware the danger of some ____ are criminals therefore all _____ are criminals (or should be treated like criminals just in case). Our country has a bad history of making that mistake.



I'd agree with you if these were isolated incidents, if the crimes were less gruesome, and in particular if the leadership weren't systematically determined to cover them up and continue to "cover up their cover up" without a shred of remorse as the report describes. As the good people leave the institution in ever greater numbers and the number of pedophiles and abettors start to far exceed the Martin Niemollers, you wonder what is the level of risk that people are willing to expose their children to.


Excellent points, PP. You put into words my thoughts exactly. Watched some interviews with some Pittsburgh random parishioners, and even their "we have to move forward" and "forgive the sinners" BS makes my blood boil. Parishioners also were to blame for not protecting those kids and demanding justice.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2018 00:14     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Beware the danger of some ____ are criminals therefore all _____ are criminals (or should be treated like criminals just in case). Our country has a bad history of making that mistake.



I'd agree with you if these were isolated incidents, if the crimes were less gruesome, and in particular if the leadership weren't systematically determined to cover them up and continue to "cover up their cover up" without a shred of remorse as the report describes. As the good people leave the institution in ever greater numbers and the number of pedophiles and abettors start to far exceed the Martin Niemollers, you wonder what is the level of risk that people are willing to expose their children to.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2018 23:53     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.


Beware the danger of some ____ are criminals therefore all _____ are criminals (or should be treated like criminals just in case). Our country has a bad history of making that mistake.

Anonymous
Post 08/14/2018 23:33     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2018 23:18     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

Anonymous wrote:There were PA seminarians with questionable pasts working in DCPS and you all let it pass with a wink and a grin.

Don't start acting pious now!


Have no idea what you’re talking about. PS you’re disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2018 23:12     Subject: Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

There were PA seminarians with questionable pasts working in DCPS and you all let it pass with a wink and a grin.

Don't start acting pious now!
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2018 23:09     Subject: Re:Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

I grew up in the Pittsburgh Diocese. I left Catholicism over 20 years ago for other reasons.

Scrolling through this list of over 300 names of priests either directly abusing victims, passing around pornography or covering up the abuse is so overwhelming. I honestly do not ever want to enter a Catholic Church again, but know I must when my elderly father dies.

Here is the list of names:

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/08/14/grand-jury-report-list-catholic-church-clergy-abuse-priest-pennsylvania/913738002/