Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 17:54     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Our Black high school senior son is not applying, and we completely back his decision. The school has long had a Southern white boy prepster thing going on, which excluded those not in its retro circle. But now that culture seems to have spawned support the current mess. There's long been a self-selecting dynamic between UVA and William and Mary. That seems to have accelerated in the past year.

I'm sure that UVA can eventually figure out how to change its culture, but it hasn't done so thus far. For now, my son and our family are staying away.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 17:48     Subject: Re:Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:Err...no. UVA continues to get more and more competitive and desirable - just look at the numbers. Anyone who is even remotely intelligent or discerning has made the connection that this group was not a group of uva students or even Charlottesville residents...would you say the same about avoiding D.C. Bc a rally happens to be held there(?)



+1. And if anyone had half a brain, they would know that UVA students aren't on campus on August llth. Much also has been done on campus to keep a protest like this from happening ever again. Much has been done to commemorate the work that slaves did in constructing the oldest buildings.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 17:41     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:One AA student I know there is now in her second year and says that she totally regrets it. [/quote]


I don't believe you. She could have transferred if it was that bad. Transfers out of UVA are easy. Transfers in are difficult.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 17:38     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous[b wrote:]UVA was built on slavery and racial discrimination. [/b]

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/08/the-long-shadow-of-racism-at-uva-from-1817-to-the-charlottesville-riots/567182/

““Slavery, in every way imaginable, was central to the project of designing, funding, building, and maintaining the school,” the reports says. It flowed from the institution’s founder—Thomas Jefferson—on down. “Even in Jefferson’s own imagining of what the University of Virginia could be, he understood it to be an institution with slavery at its core,” the report says. “He believed that a southern institution was necessary to protect the sons of the South from abolitionist teachings in the North.””

““It all comes full circle in the fact that this institution has had underlying white-supremacist elements to it from its very beginning.””




As was Harvard and every other 200 year old college.



Bingo. And I went to Harvard.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 17:28     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:One AA student I know there is now in her second year and says that she totally regrets it.


why? What specifically is the problem?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 17:13     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
One AA student I know there is now in her second year and says that she totally regrets it.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 16:35     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Don't kid yourself it was never that great to begin with. The school and the town, and its founder are all grossly overrated.

Hell, the school was built by slaves.

Being old is not necessarily indicative of greatness

Even their basketball teams suck
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 16:24     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the Northeast, and yes, gave me pause to have my children look at both UVA and W&L. I realize they are both fine schools but there are other fine schools out there without the issues.


ALL schools have issues with racists and white supremacists. Don’t kid yourself. From frat boys singing racist songs on a bus to a dance (with dates laughing) to slurs used in graffiti, this is everywhere.


Frankly I am not sure I agree but I will say that we look to avoid schools with Lax Bro cultures and frats but instead of trying to avoid racists I am trying to avoid rapists and schools with those cultures give me pause.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 15:28     Subject: Re:Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ 2nd ranked public university in the country after Cal-Berkely, and a terrific bargain for in-state residents -- if you can get in.


I guess plenty of parents are willing to overlook racism and misogyny to save a few bucks.


Sorry your kid didn't get in.


Is that your only retort?

You realize it’s just a state school, right? A safety school.

Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 15:10     Subject: Re:Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ 2nd ranked public university in the country after Cal-Berkely, and a terrific bargain for in-state residents -- if you can get in.


I guess plenty of parents are willing to overlook racism and misogyny to save a few bucks.


Sorry your kid didn't get in.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 15:05     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well?


Forever is a mighty long time (but I'm here to tell you, there is something else...)



+100 (RIP Prince)
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 15:02     Subject: Re:Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ 2nd ranked public university in the country after Cal-Berkely, and a terrific bargain for in-state residents -- if you can get in.


I guess plenty of parents are willing to overlook racism and misogyny to save a few bucks.

We are not white and our children are having a delightful experience at UVA.

Please stop acting like you speak for everyone.


Cheap parents aren’t defined by race.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 14:59     Subject: Re:Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
I do think that nationally, there is a bad taste in the mouth about UVA, especially since a UVA graduate organized last year's events.

I'm sure it will pass, but for now, outside this region, I do think there is a negative association.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 14:59     Subject: Re:Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
Err...no. UVA continues to get more and more competitive and desirable - just look at the numbers. Anyone who is even remotely intelligent or discerning has made the connection that this group was not a group of uva students or even Charlottesville residents...would you say the same about avoiding D.C. Bc a rally happens to be held there(?)
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2018 14:53     Subject: Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?
The school is addressing its demons. In some areas, it is progressing. In others, it’s stumbling.

It sounds like some here would prefer a school that is ignoring these issues and not doing anything.