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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

It's not a double standard. We also judge Kody and Destiny.

Oh, and I'm also judging the Europeans naming their kids Janine and Madison. Basically anything that signals lower socioeconomic class stands out.

In your race to not sound racist and like an egalitarian a******, all you do is sound classist. As if being a lower socioeconomic class is worth judging. Get a f****** grip on your soul please

NP here, as has been mentioned before, there are so many studies on this. The name of a child can be an indicator of the family's socioeconomic status. There are traditionally white names on that ladder, just as there are black names on that ladder. And the ladder keeps changing. I'm not a huge fan of "Freakeonomics" but there is a chapter about this very thing in that book.

It's not the intrinsic quality of the name itself but the signal it sends. It's quite fascinating and you should read about it sometime. What signal the name "Apple" sends, only time will tell.

I know what the studies say. I have read them. What I'm saying is that someone who judges someone for their socioeconomic class and name is in fact an a******. And that's pretty much what the studies really show:. That the world is full of assholes

In 6th grade I got beat up by a girl named Fashionette. Yes, I judge

Another white person here. The only names I look down on are Gaelic names and only because they are impossible to read phonetically.

I gave my white son a name usually more associated with black men these days. I'll admit that I've wondered if I've done him a disservice. And then I think, maybe he'll learn something from it.

I read the OP and felt for sure this was a fake post.

Then, I see serious responses to it, and I say WTH!?

Maybe I missed it, but has OP responded to any of this?

Anonymous wrote:White person here. Yes, I look down on traditionally "ghetto" names such as Tyrone and Laquisha. However this is not unique to White people. Asians, Hispanics, Middle Easterners, middle class African Americans - they all look down on these names.

You look down on Tyrone Powers?

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Anonymous wrote:I try to never mispronounce ANYONE's name, regardless of race. I may think "Oh you poor thing" when I meet a black girl named Dy'mond Kulture but would never say anything to a child. If I were close friends with Dy'mond and she brought up her name, I might ask if she's ever thought of having it legally changed.

I work in HR and recruiting and don't judge based on name. I judge based on eye contact, fit of clothing (not brands, but are the pants sagging, are b**bs showing), mumbling, etc. THOSE are the things that tell me DeMarcus has eaten fast food for dinner and regularly had the electricity turned off and many "fathers" traipsed through his apartment.

So does that person have no chance? That seems heartless.

Do you want a mumbling, ill dressed mess representing your company?

Anonymous wrote:I try to never mispronounce ANYONE's name, regardless of race. I may think "Oh you poor thing" when I meet a black girl named Dy'mond Kulture but would never say anything to a child. If I were close friends with Dy'mond and she brought up her name, I might ask if she's ever thought of having it legally changed.

I work in HR and recruiting and don't judge based on name. I judge based on eye contact, fit of clothing (not brands, but are the pants sagging, are b**bs showing), mumbling, etc. THOSE are the things that tell me DeMarcus has eaten fast food for dinner and regularly had the electricity turned off and many "fathers" traipsed through his apartment.

So does that person have no chance? That seems heartless.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

It's not a double standard. We also judge Kody and Destiny.

Oh, and I'm also judging the Europeans naming their kids Janine and Madison. Basically anything that signals lower socioeconomic class stands out.

In your race to not sound racist and like an egalitarian a******, all you do is sound classist. As if being a lower socioeconomic class is worth judging. Get a f****** grip on your soul please

NP here, as has been mentioned before, there are so many studies on this. The name of a child can be an indicator of the family's socioeconomic status. There are traditionally white names on that ladder, just as there are black names on that ladder. And the ladder keeps changing. I'm not a huge fan of "Freakeonomics" but there is a chapter about this very thing in that book.

It's not the intrinsic quality of the name itself but the signal it sends. It's quite fascinating and you should read about it sometime. What signal the name "Apple" sends, only time will tell.

Anonymous wrote:Funny because I used to work about 30 minutes north of Pittsburgh. Pretty much 99.9% white aside from the sprinkles of mixed kids who had no father around and a white mom. My job required me to work with high school and college aged kids. There were so many “black names” to these kids that belonged to Coal miner, steel mill, union welding beer drinking, take opening day of trout and the opening week of deer season off yinzers. It was quite a shock to me being originally from Portsmouth, VA

Also worked in this general area. In public health working with parenting teens. Yes, the names were creative and non-traditional, but they genuinely represented the love these kids had for their babies. They wanted them to be seen as unique and to embody whatever qualities they associated with the name.

Anonymous wrote:White person here. Yes, I look down on traditionally "ghetto" names such as Tyrone and Laquisha. However this is not unique to White people. Asians, Hispanics, Middle Easterners, middle class African Americans - they all look down on these names.

Definitely knew a white Tyrone. That's a longstanding name.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. White people can give their kids all kinds of "unconventional" names and it's not judged as being low class, uneducated, etc. But when black people do it, it's "ghetto."

Honestly, I don't care if people want to name their kids Karsynne or DeMarcus but it should be judged in the same way (or not judged at all). The double standard when it comes to this type of stuff is ridicilous.

It's not a double standard. We also judge Kody and Destiny.

Oh, and I'm also judging the Europeans naming their kids Janine and Madison. Basically anything that signals lower socioeconomic class stands out.

In your race to not sound racist and like an egalitarian a******, all you do is sound classist. As if being a lower socioeconomic class is worth judging. Get a f****** grip on your soul please

Anonymous wrote:I try to never mispronounce ANYONE's name, regardless of race. I may think "Oh you poor thing" when I meet a black girl named Dy'mond Kulture but would never say anything to a child. If I were close friends with Dy'mond and she brought up her name, I might ask if she's ever thought of having it legally changed.

I work in HR and recruiting and don't judge based on name. I judge based on eye contact, fit of clothing (not brands, but are the pants sagging, are b**bs showing), mumbling, etc. THOSE are the things that tell me DeMarcus has eaten fast food for dinner and regularly had the electricity turned off and many "fathers" traipsed through his apartment.

If you became close friends with someone, I would hope that you would value them for who they are and maybe even come to appreciate their unusual name. I have several white friends who willingly chose weird/unusual spellings for their names as a mark of individuality and I have never, not once, told them they should alter how they choose to spell their own name.

I am so sad to hear that you work in HR and think you can tell what people have eaten for diner (!!!!) and that you would refuse to hire someone who has grown up poor or with family dysfunction. I know surgeons and lawyers who grew up poor, some of them even, horrors, had the electricity turned off. I can understand people need to dress a certain way for interviews but the fact that you are writing people off for jobs based of these kinds of gross assumptions is poor practice on your part.

You did the right thing. Your kid will benefit from it. Names like Maverick are stupid.

My kids play lacrosse and every year we look forward to the all-name lacrosse teams. No culture has the market cornered on weird names, and we all make fun of them.

Upperclass weird names (which seem to be giving your child the last name of someone in your family, or what the older sibling used as a name for the new baby) seem more acceptable than lowerclass weird names (which seem to be more along the lines of name your child after something you wish you could buy, or just throwing random letters together until it seems right).

Studies also show that women's resumes are judged more harshly than men's. I wonder if that's part of the trend to give girls boy names.