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Anonymous wrote:I don’t mind pedestrians. But Indo have a problem with RUDE pedestrians. The one who do not look for traffic before jaywalking across a street then act completely oblivious to their surroundings either talking to someone else or looking at their phone and then have the audacity to act upset when a car approaches them after they have been in the street for approaching a minute. Oh, I’m sorry. Did I interrupt the picnic lunch you were going to set up in the middle of the street? These oblivious, rude pedestrians are the ones who need to be told where to go. When I am a pedestrian, I cross at the crosswalk. I look for traffic. If I see traffic, I WAIT (shocking) instead of just walking out into the street and expecting traffic to come to a screeching halt. And if I cross the street, I do it QUICKLY. If pedestrians would just follow these rules and be cognizant of their surroundings, I would never have a beef with them.

A pedestrian has the right of way and has no obligation to hurry or to walk at the pace you want or to make eye contact with you or to thank you for stopping or to wait for you to stop. Drivers are required by law to stop for pedestrians and yes, traffic should absolutely come to a stop when a pedestrian is in or near the crosswalk. If you are yielding on the highway and traffic coming from the highway is too heavy then do you come to a stop if you can’t yield safely?

Louder for the people in back

I have worked and lived in DC since 2007. I think this situation has gotten a lot worse in the last couple of years. I have to walk to the train station (a few blocks) and every day I dodge cars, bikes, and scooters. I feel like bikers and scooters are worse than cars. There is zero enforcement when they don't stop for pedestrians and some of them are flying 40 m/h. They honk at me while walking on the SIDEWALK to get out of their way. It's insane!!! Cars at least have signals that they obey for the most part. I really do not feel safe and I am not in my phone or jay walking EVER.

It's not a car vs walker thing. You are all terrible walkers and terrible drivers. Terrible bikers too. Leave me alone and get out of my way. Get off my highway, y freeway, and my walkway.

Anonymous wrote:Walking is for the poors.

I feel like walking is for the rich! If I could afford to live on Capitol Hill and walk everywhere, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Despite having one of the best driving conditions, the US often has the most discourteous drivers. Size means everything. The bigger the jacked up Pickup truck or other the more uncouth, ill mannered and pompous drivers raise their ugly head.
Loudly blaring their noise, which they consider music and in the process drowning you out and literally rocking your vehicle.
Occasionally the tobacco chewing bozo will spit out the window barely missing your vehicle. Small wonder that road rage is a common occurrence on the wide streets of our affluent culture. A serious lack of it is more accurate.
Having driven on three continents over the decades and having an immaculate driving record I believe I have a fairly good grip on what I’m talking about. That same pompous jackass has about as little driving skill as a snail on a rabbit track.
More than once have I seen the fool straddling the middle of a roundabout/ traffic circle ⭕️/rotary or off to the side in a ditch. That’s just one example. Running red lights at high speeds, violating/disregarding all manner of traffic signs etc.
Then you have the Asian drivers who you never see in an accident but rather leaving the scene of one lol!
All else kinda falls in between that rather wide gap of driving diaspora.
It’s a rather fascinating study in a variety of factors that involve the art of driving. It’s at a point where I can often accurately make a call while in traffic, be it rush hour or not. Predictability of the unpredictable ‘driver’. A rather loose use of that word
It’s laughable if not cringeworthy. I could go on and on about the topic but I’m afraid I’ll run out of ink
I must mention the demographics and their bearing on statistics as well so there is another consideration. Impairment is not worth mentioning since it’s so common across the broad board as well.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t mind pedestrians. But Indo have a problem with RUDE pedestrians. The one who do not look for traffic before jaywalking across a street then act completely oblivious to their surroundings either talking to someone else or looking at their phone and then have the audacity to act upset when a car approaches them after they have been in the street for approaching a minute. Oh, I’m sorry. Did I interrupt the picnic lunch you were going to set up in the middle of the street? These oblivious, rude pedestrians are the ones who need to be told where to go. When I am a pedestrian, I cross at the crosswalk. I look for traffic. If I see traffic, I WAIT (shocking) instead of just walking out into the street and expecting traffic to come to a screeching halt. And if I cross the street, I do it QUICKLY. If pedestrians would just follow these rules and be cognizant of their surroundings, I would never have a beef with them.

A pedestrian has the right of way and has no obligation to hurry or to walk at the pace you want or to make eye contact with you or to thank you for stopping or to wait for you to stop. Drivers are required by law to stop for pedestrians and yes, traffic should absolutely come to a stop when a pedestrian is in or near the crosswalk. If you are yielding on the highway and traffic coming from the highway is too heavy then do you come to a stop if you can’t yield safely?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm from Europe, and I have never felt so vulnerable as when crossing suburban roads in the US, for exactly the reason you mention, OP. Here most locations are built to accommodate the fastest and most mindless car driving experience, and it follows that drivers are not alert when people or animals cross their paths.

In Paris and other city or country locations in Europe (I've lived all over), ALL drivers are also pedestrians. It goes with the lifestyle. The layout is also more pedestrian-friendly since most locations in Europe were built before the invention of the car. As a result, it's the drivers who need to be constantly on alert, because the lanes are narrow, the turns can be sharp with no visibility, traffic lights or stop signs are sprinkled frequently on their way... in brief, it's not as easy to mindlessly drive for a long way and then hit a pedestrian when you enter a populated area. You'd hit a cow or a building first, or drive straight across a roundabout, and drivers don't want to do that

Your problem is that you're in the suburbs. Ditch that hellhole and come into the city.

I'd love to, but the houses cost 3x as much. Tell Uncle Sam to pay me more.

If you want to stay on topic, the drivers in the city are bad too. Then again, they are mostly suburbanites who view pedestrian city residents as simply impediments.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm from Europe, and I have never felt so vulnerable as when crossing suburban roads in the US, for exactly the reason you mention, OP. Here most locations are built to accommodate the fastest and most mindless car driving experience, and it follows that drivers are not alert when people or animals cross their paths.

In Paris and other city or country locations in Europe (I've lived all over), ALL drivers are also pedestrians. It goes with the lifestyle. The layout is also more pedestrian-friendly since most locations in Europe were built before the invention of the car. As a result, it's the drivers who need to be constantly on alert, because the lanes are narrow, the turns can be sharp with no visibility, traffic lights or stop signs are sprinkled frequently on their way... in brief, it's not as easy to mindlessly drive for a long way and then hit a pedestrian when you enter a populated area. You'd hit a cow or a building first, or drive straight across a roundabout, and drivers don't want to do that

Your problem is that you're in the suburbs. Ditch that hellhole and come into the city.

I'd love to, but the houses cost 3x as much. Tell Uncle Sam to pay me more.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm from Europe, and I have never felt so vulnerable as when crossing suburban roads in the US, for exactly the reason you mention, OP. Here most locations are built to accommodate the fastest and most mindless car driving experience, and it follows that drivers are not alert when people or animals cross their paths.

In Paris and other city or country locations in Europe (I've lived all over), ALL drivers are also pedestrians. It goes with the lifestyle. The layout is also more pedestrian-friendly since most locations in Europe were built before the invention of the car. As a result, it's the drivers who need to be constantly on alert, because the lanes are narrow, the turns can be sharp with no visibility, traffic lights or stop signs are sprinkled frequently on their way... in brief, it's not as easy to mindlessly drive for a long way and then hit a pedestrian when you enter a populated area. You'd hit a cow or a building first, or drive straight across a roundabout, and drivers don't want to do that

Your problem is that you're in the suburbs. Ditch that hellhole and come into the city.

Oh, I lived in DC too. The problem is that most workers live out in the sticks and drive in, so they're dangerous.

Anonymous wrote:I'm from Europe, and I have never felt so vulnerable as when crossing suburban roads in the US, for exactly the reason you mention, OP. Here most locations are built to accommodate the fastest and most mindless car driving experience, and it follows that drivers are not alert when people or animals cross their paths.

In Paris and other city or country locations in Europe (I've lived all over), ALL drivers are also pedestrians. It goes with the lifestyle. The layout is also more pedestrian-friendly since most locations in Europe were built before the invention of the car. As a result, it's the drivers who need to be constantly on alert, because the lanes are narrow, the turns can be sharp with no visibility, traffic lights or stop signs are sprinkled frequently on their way... in brief, it's not as easy to mindlessly drive for a long way and then hit a pedestrian when you enter a populated area. You'd hit a cow or a building first, or drive straight across a roundabout, and drivers don't want to do that

Your problem is that you're in the suburbs. Ditch that hellhole and come into the city.