Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 09:01     Subject: Re:I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:My DD is at Brown and loves it. My nephew just finished first year at Chicago and will be taking a year off and applying to transfer elsewhere -- he's a bright, intellectually curious and hard-working kid who has found Chicago to be filled with too many kids who are either self-consciously quirky or disgruntled b/c they didn't get into HYPS. He likes the Core, but feels many students are engaged in intellectual combat with profs who are bent on grade deflation.


He sounds lazy
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 08:58     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Unless you’re truly obsessed with Econ I can’t think of one reason why a teen would choose Chicago. Please spare me the US news ranking. They put Chicago over Stanford for Christ’s sake!
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 08:56     Subject: Re:I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:My DD is at Brown and loves it. My nephew just finished first year at Chicago and will be taking a year off and applying to transfer elsewhere -- he's a bright, intellectually curious and hard-working kid who has found Chicago to be filled with too many kids who are either self-consciously quirky or disgruntled b/c they didn't get into HYPS. He likes the Core, but feels many students are engaged in intellectual combat with profs who are bent on grade deflation.


Yikes. This sounds like a really honest appraisal. But isn’t your nephew screwed trying to transfer with, I presume, a low gpa?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 08:45     Subject: Re:I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Grading is a bares bones reflection of ability and application at UChicago. A kid needs to be resilient at that level of honesty. Not for all and certainly influences their feedback on an institution.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 07:53     Subject: Re:I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
My DD is at Brown and loves it. My nephew just finished first year at Chicago and will be taking a year off and applying to transfer elsewhere -- he's a bright, intellectually curious and hard-working kid who has found Chicago to be filled with too many kids who are either self-consciously quirky or disgruntled b/c they didn't get into HYPS. He likes the Core, but feels many students are engaged in intellectual combat with profs who are bent on grade deflation.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 07:42     Subject: Re:I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
If you didn't want her to attend Brown, you should not have let her apply. She makes the decision.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2018 02:35     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's working at a summer camp and said her Brown admissions rep has emailed her twice this weekend to set up a Monday morning phone call. Does this warrant family debate? She's been to Brown for a summer camp and enjoyed it. She also did the Chicago admit student events and enjoyed it. I think her instinct will be choosing the more fun Ivy, but her father and I think the more serious of the two (Chicago) might be a better investment.


Of course not, there's only one person who should be making this decision.


Brown and Chicago are peer schools that if the choice is between those two, I would let the child decide.

However, at the same time I do resist claims that parents should not be involved in the decision making process. After all, it's the parents' money. $75,000 per year for four years. That is a lot of money. That is not the child's money.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 21:15     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:She's working at a summer camp and said her Brown admissions rep has emailed her twice this weekend to set up a Monday morning phone call. Does this warrant family debate? She's been to Brown for a summer camp and enjoyed it. She also did the Chicago admit student events and enjoyed it. I think her instinct will be choosing the more fun Ivy, but her father and I think the more serious of the two (Chicago) might be a better investment.


Of course not, there's only one person who should be making this decision.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 21:12     Subject: Re:I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Ultimately the kid picks but that doesn't mean a parent cannot provide food for thought. A great educatiion can be had at both schools; however, IMO Brown requires more student maturity to stay on track. UChicago's small class sizes, CORE and peer intensity is somewhat of a safety net. A kid's ability to independently steer her education should be considered. It's a very expensive decision in many ways.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 20:20     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Opposite. Brown is far too wacky liberal these days. You don't get a solid liberal arts education because you can take any progressive silly course you like. Chicago has always been the leader in the great books schools, along with columbia and has a more earnest conservative lean. If you child is at all interested in econ, I would definitely pick Chicago.


This is not about YOU. it's not even about OP. It's OP's daughter. And no, YOU don't get to PICK for OP's daughter. You are probably far along your stage of life; hence, your preference for the right. OP's daughter is beginning her adult life and may not see things your old way. It's OP's daughter's life. Let her decide.



Uh, no, not when the parent is doling out $74K (Brown) or $75K (chicago) in after tax dollars per year to send her to these schools.


Most top private schools are $70,000+ for the upcoming school year, not just Brown and Chicago. I let my D decide her school - and I am happier for it.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 19:37     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Opposite. Brown is far too wacky liberal these days. You don't get a solid liberal arts education because you can take any progressive silly course you like. Chicago has always been the leader in the great books schools, along with columbia and has a more earnest conservative lean. If you child is at all interested in econ, I would definitely pick Chicago.


This is not about YOU. it's not even about OP. It's OP's daughter. And no, YOU don't get to PICK for OP's daughter. You are probably far along your stage of life; hence, your preference for the right. OP's daughter is beginning her adult life and may not see things your old way. It's OP's daughter's life. Let her decide.



Of course it isn't. It's absurd to say that on an anonymous board. I said "if your child is at all interested in econ". Right? So kid isn't interested in econ but wants to be a social justice warrior, then Brown, right? Try to help the mother with information, not attack other posters.


DP. In which case your Econ advice should be if kid is interested in Econ and is very good at/likes math, then UChicago is probably the best choice.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 19:35     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Opposite. Brown is far too wacky liberal these days. You don't get a solid liberal arts education because you can take any progressive silly course you like. Chicago has always been the leader in the great books schools, along with columbia and has a more earnest conservative lean. If you child is at all interested in econ, I would definitely pick Chicago.


This is not about YOU. it's not even about OP. It's OP's daughter. And no, YOU don't get to PICK for OP's daughter. You are probably far along your stage of life; hence, your preference for the right. OP's daughter is beginning her adult life and may not see things your old way. It's OP's daughter's life. Let her decide.



Uh, no, not when the parent is doling out $74K (Brown) or $75K (chicago) in after tax dollars per year to send her to these schools.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 19:04     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Opposite. Brown is far too wacky liberal these days. You don't get a solid liberal arts education because you can take any progressive silly course you like. Chicago has always been the leader in the great books schools, along with columbia and has a more earnest conservative lean. If you child is at all interested in econ, I would definitely pick Chicago.


This is not about YOU. it's not even about OP. It's OP's daughter. And no, YOU don't get to PICK for OP's daughter. You are probably far along your stage of life; hence, your preference for the right. OP's daughter is beginning her adult life and may not see things your old way. It's OP's daughter's life. Let her decide.



Of course it isn't. It's absurd to say that on an anonymous board. I said "if your child is at all interested in econ". Right? So kid isn't interested in econ but wants to be a social justice warrior, then Brown, right? Try to help the mother with information, not attack other posters.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 16:42     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Op why are you posting? This is your child's choice.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2018 16:38     Subject: I think my U of Chicago bound DD just got off Brown's waiting list. Any debate?
Anonymous wrote:Opposite. Brown is far too wacky liberal these days. You don't get a solid liberal arts education because you can take any progressive silly course you like. Chicago has always been the leader in the great books schools, along with columbia and has a more earnest conservative lean. If you child is at all interested in econ, I would definitely pick Chicago.


This is not about YOU. it's not even about OP. It's OP's daughter. And no, YOU don't get to PICK for OP's daughter. You are probably far along your stage of life; hence, your preference for the right. OP's daughter is beginning her adult life and may not see things your old way. It's OP's daughter's life. Let her decide.