How is it bigotry to not date someone you're not attracted to? That doesn't make any sense. Of course it's not bigotry.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

How is a man ever a lesbian?

Come on people.

When he's not really a man, but a woman.

But a lesbian is about sexual attraction. A biological woman attracted to a biological woman. There are lesbians who are attracted to all sorts of different gender presentations, the full range from masculine to feminine.

Transgender people are dealing with gender presentation. Presenting as a feminine person and using female pronouns doesn't make someone a biological woman. There are also people who are attracted to men with the full range of gender presentation, from masculine to feminine.

The thing is not everyone defines it like you do. For some it's "a woman attracted to a woman." How their bodies started out in life chromosome-wise or physically is not the definition of "woman" for everyone. A trans-woman feels and considers herself a woman. Period. And many others accept her as such. Birth biology is not the definition of being a woman for everyone.

In the context of someone who you want to have sex with and want to be physically attracted to, it cannot be bigotry to not want to be with a transgendered person.

Someone who has not transitioned could have equipment you are not attracted to. Someone who has may have to go about childbearing in a way you aren't comfortable with. Or they could still have features that are more masculine/feminine that are unattractive to you personally. Being sexually intimate is a private matter and deals very much with what we feel is attractive which is not something people can really control, more of a base instinct.

- a liberal who is totally cool with transgendered people but can't envision dating a transgendered person on any part of their journey.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

How is a man ever a lesbian?

Come on people.

When he's not really a man, but a woman.

But a lesbian is about sexual attraction. A biological woman attracted to a biological woman. There are lesbians who are attracted to all sorts of different gender presentations, the full range from masculine to feminine.

Transgender people are dealing with gender presentation. Presenting as a feminine person and using female pronouns doesn't make someone a biological woman. There are also people who are attracted to men with the full range of gender presentation, from masculine to feminine.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

What? You lost me.

Yes, you are clearly confused.

Trans woman = male who has transitioned to female
Trans man = female who has transitioned to male

A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to women = a lesbian who is also a trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to men = a gay man who is also a trans man
A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to men = a heterosexual trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to women = a heterosexual trans man

A trans woman can bank sperm and then use that sperm for IVF or IUI to have children with a woman. A trans man can become pregnant as well. I know people who have done both of those things.

NP. What utter, delusional nonsense. I don't care if people want to live that way, or if others care enough about it to make sense of it. That's their business. But don't expect the rest of us to care.

I’m confused. It’s very easy to understand and no one is asking you to care. What is your point?

That's the problem.

Nor is it true that I am not asked to care. Or pay for it with my tax dollars in one way or another.

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NP. What utter, delusional nonsense. I don't care if people want to live that way, or if others care enough about it to make sense of it. That's their business. But don't expect the rest of us to care.

Wonderful if you truly don't care. Live and let live. Of course, getting offended by the mere mention or thought of it isn't really "not caring."

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

How is a man ever a lesbian?

Come on people.

When he's not really a man, but a woman.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

What? You lost me.

Yes, you are clearly confused.

Trans woman = male who has transitioned to female
Trans man = female who has transitioned to male

A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to women = a lesbian who is also a trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to men = a gay man who is also a trans man
A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to men = a heterosexual trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to women = a heterosexual trans man

A trans woman can bank sperm and then use that sperm for IVF or IUI to have children with a woman. A trans man can become pregnant as well. I know people who have done both of those things.

NP. What utter, delusional nonsense. I don't care if people want to live that way, or if others care enough about it to make sense of it. That's their business. But don't expect the rest of us to care.

I’m confused. It’s very easy to understand and no one is asking you to care. What is your point?

I don't think it's bigotry any more than any other preferences.
I might prefer not to date someone with a colostomy bag. Or a micro penis. Or really liked heavy metal music.

Having a preference for is not the same as having an intolerance against.

Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

I don’t think it’s bigotry to not want to date them under those circumstances. I have a transgender family member and accept them 100% but I wouldn’t want to date a transgender person. It’s still a preference and doesn’t reflect bigotry.

Anonymous wrote:I am male, straight, but had a fling with a trans man once. He had the lady parts I liked with much less of the female drama.

As a she, she would have been heterosexual but had no interest in typical feminine things.

As a man he was typical. Liked sports, beer, porn...and had a lady parts.

It was like having a best friend you could f**k.

You are not straight then.

I am male, straight, but had a fling with a trans man once. He had the lady parts I liked with much less of the female drama.

As a she, she would have been heterosexual but had no interest in typical feminine things.

As a man he was typical. Liked sports, beer, porn...and had a lady parts.

It was like having a best friend you could f**k.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

What? You lost me.

Yes, you are clearly confused.

Trans woman = male who has transitioned to female
Trans man = female who has transitioned to male

A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to women = a lesbian who is also a trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to men = a gay man who is also a trans man
A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to men = a heterosexual trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to women = a heterosexual trans man

A trans woman can bank sperm and then use that sperm for IVF or IUI to have children with a woman. A trans man can become pregnant as well. I know people who have done both of those things.

NP. What utter, delusional nonsense. I don't care if people want to live that way, or if others care enough about it to make sense of it. That's their business. But don't expect the rest of us to care.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

What? You lost me.

Yes, you are clearly confused.

Trans woman = male who has transitioned to female
Trans man = female who has transitioned to male

A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to women = a lesbian who is also a trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to men = a gay man who is also a trans man
A trans woman who is sexually attracted only to men = a heterosexual trans woman
A trans man who is sexually attracted only to women = a heterosexual trans man

A trans woman can bank sperm and then use that sperm for IVF or IUI to have children with a woman. A trans man can become pregnant as well. I know people who have done both of those things.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not bigotry to not be attracted to a certain type. It is bigotry to be attracted and even start dating, find out, then dump them.

What if you dump them because you want bio-kids?

So times it is easier. I know one female trans person who banked sperm before undergoing hormone therapy. She is also a lesbian, so when the time comes, her partner can bear children that are biologically both of theirs.

What? You lost me.