Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

For humans who have not had surgery their genitals are defined by their chromosomes. That is a scientific fact. For those who have had surgery their genitals are not defined by their chromosomes. That is a scientific fact.

What you call them is not science its semantics. Its language. Which seems to matter a lot to some people.

I doubt any of the people asserting here what science is a biologist or physician.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

But apparently biology and facts are mean.

What about humans who are XXY? People with XX male syndrome? Hermaphrodites? There are actually all kinds of variation. For most people, XX = female and XY = male. But not for everyone. Saying "biological sex" and "sex assigned at birth" means the same thing for most people. But for some people, it's not.

And it most certainly does not mean that you can change your sex, as the OP suggests, but which the article never says.

Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

hate speech!

Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

But apparently biology and facts are mean.

Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

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Anonymous wrote:I generally lean liberal, but man, this makes me glad my kids are at Catholic school.

Tell me which medieval pope or church conclave said that sex = chromosomes.

biology class

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Anonymous wrote:I generally lean liberal, but man, this makes me glad my kids are at Catholic school.

Please let us know what sex education is like at a Catholic school and why it is superior. Is there any? Is it the very ineffective “just say no”?

They're not learning that sex is "assigned at birth", for that I am grateful. This isn't some arbitrary designation from the doctor. Male and female are basic concepts, and the idea of normalizing this sort of language is disturbing to me. Yes, there are some genetic mutations, but they are rare, and not common enough to make the idea that sex is "assigned" rather than it just is, make any sense at all. I have no issue with someone being gay, or lesbian, or frankly if it comes to it, if you really want to present yourself to the world as the gender you are not, just go for it. But to pretend that the doctor arbitrarily designated someone as a boy or a girl, and that you won't really know the truth until some point down the road, well that is just simply nonsensical.

Anonymous wrote:The left celebrates mental illness and child abuse https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/health/transgender-fathers-day-trnd/index.html

They seem like better people than you.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. Claiming to be a boy when you are a girl, or vice versa, does not make it so.

Even that’s gender. They are now claiming that you can switch from male to female, not just man to woman .

Though its called gender reassignment surgery, I think the way gender and sex are used these days, sex reassignment would be more accurate? Since gender is used for social identity, but sex for physical reality. Surgery does change physical reality.

no surgery changes your chromosomes

Except the gov’t doesn’t assign sex based on chromosomes. If they did, we’d have six or seven different sexes. Instead, the government accepts the word of a doctor who —for 99% of us— took a quick peek between our legs when we were 3 seconds out of the birth canal. Only a few newborns have testing to clarify gender and even then, there’s only legally an A or B option regardless of what their chromosomes show. I’m a cisgender female married to a cismale and mom to cisgender kids, but I took college human anatomy, genetics, and sociology so I know how arbitrary male and female designations can be on a purely chromosomal level.

Intersex people are s tiny minority of people claiming to be trans

which is not relevant to PP's point, which is that sex is not based on chromosomes, but on genitalia. Which, in fact, CAN be changed. And are also not the same as "gender".

An inverted penis isn’t a vagina

Even with a sex change a man will never know what it means to have a period, birth a baby, nurse a baby, go through menopause or any other of the gazillion things thay make us women.

This whole movement is just a new twist on being anti woman and putting men before women.

many genetic women never birth a baby. many who do never nurse. Many die before menopause. A few never have a period.

By this movement do you mean A Gender dysphoria B The right of some to get surgery? C. The terminology that calls those people women?

The left celebrates mental illness and child abuse https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/health/transgender-fathers-day-trnd/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:http://amp.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/fairfax-county-school-board-approves-controversial-changes-to-sex-education-policy

So much for sex and gender being different and gender being a social construct that can change . Why not teach creationism since they threw science out the window ?

That link doesn't say that Fairfax schools are going to teach kids that you can change your sex. It doesn't mention anything about changing sex.
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Did you post the wrong link? Or are you just stirring the pot? Or do you have some source of inside information?

it says they’ll use the term “sex assigned at birt” instead of biological sex which heavily implies they believe you can change your sex as in the past changing your gender was the entire point of these things

No, that means that it's your sex based on your genitalia, rather than on your genetics since the Doctor only has one of those 2 pieces of information at birth.

I’m so glad we are catholic and will have the option of Catholic schools. This is all too much.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. Claiming to be a boy when you are a girl, or vice versa, does not make it so.

Even that’s gender. They are now claiming that you can switch from male to female, not just man to woman .

Though its called gender reassignment surgery, I think the way gender and sex are used these days, sex reassignment would be more accurate? Since gender is used for social identity, but sex for physical reality. Surgery does change physical reality.

no surgery changes your chromosomes

Except the gov’t doesn’t assign sex based on chromosomes. If they did, we’d have six or seven different sexes. Instead, the government accepts the word of a doctor who —for 99% of us— took a quick peek between our legs when we were 3 seconds out of the birth canal. Only a few newborns have testing to clarify gender and even then, there’s only legally an A or B option regardless of what their chromosomes show. I’m a cisgender female married to a cismale and mom to cisgender kids, but I took college human anatomy, genetics, and sociology so I know how arbitrary male and female designations can be on a purely chromosomal level.

Intersex people are s tiny minority of people claiming to be trans

which is not relevant to PP's point, which is that sex is not based on chromosomes, but on genitalia. Which, in fact, CAN be changed. And are also not the same as "gender".

An inverted penis isn’t a vagina

Even with a sex change a man will never know what it means to have a period, birth a baby, nurse a baby, go through menopause or any other of the gazillion things thay make us women.

This whole movement is just a new twist on being anti woman and putting men before women.

Anonymous wrote:If you haven’t read the article, here is ONLY thing in there even slightly like what the OP said: they are changing the term “biological sex” to “sex assigned at birth.” But if you still want to get out your pitchforks and riot over that, then carry on.

Since that is not scientifically sound verbage, pitchforks might be warranted.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. Claiming to be a boy when you are a girl, or vice versa, does not make it so.

Even that’s gender. They are now claiming that you can switch from male to female, not just man to woman .

Though its called gender reassignment surgery, I think the way gender and sex are used these days, sex reassignment would be more accurate? Since gender is used for social identity, but sex for physical reality. Surgery does change physical reality.

no surgery changes your chromosomes

Except the gov’t doesn’t assign sex based on chromosomes. If they did, we’d have six or seven different sexes. Instead, the government accepts the word of a doctor who —for 99% of us— took a quick peek between our legs when we were 3 seconds out of the birth canal. Only a few newborns have testing to clarify gender and even then, there’s only legally an A or B option regardless of what their chromosomes show. I’m a cisgender female married to a cismale and mom to cisgender kids, but I took college human anatomy, genetics, and sociology so I know how arbitrary male and female designations can be on a purely chromosomal level.

Intersex people are s tiny minority of people claiming to be trans

which is not relevant to PP's point, which is that sex is not based on chromosomes, but on genitalia. Which, in fact, CAN be changed. And are also not the same as "gender".

An inverted penis isn’t a vagina

I have no experience with the surgery constructed vagina of a male to female transexual, so I will defer to yours. Did it feel different?