Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find information about her family? Like, did they really become that wealthy?
Very early on, reading about the abuse (before she got into the physical abuse) made me very uncomfortable.
I thought the writing was terrible in some parts. But, it was an interesting read. It confirmed my worst suspicions about survivalists, unfortunately. And, yes, I know not everyone is abusive or bipoloar. But, good god, her parents were awful people.
I just finished the book this week. I thought the writing and story were incredible. Yes, many in her family were awful in a lot of ways, but I was struck by how nuanced a portrait she drew of the worst of them.
You can google "Butterfly Express" to find out more about the people in the family who are given pseudonyms in the book--they are clearly now very successful. I didn't find much online re the dad or the awful brother. Someone clearly helped them scrub their online presence. There is a letter from her family's lawyer that attempts to cast doubt on parts of her account but has the opposite effect. It's cool to see the photos of Tyler and Richard. They look exactly like I expected. There's also a nice article that refers to her brother Luke, who gets surgery that helps restore much of the lost sight in his injured eye.
I found pictures of her brother “Shawn”, his wife, sick baby and new baby. I didn’t see any pictures of her dad, and I didn’t find her sister.
I wasn’t wowed during the first half, but the book came together nicely at the end.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find information about her family? Like, did they really become that wealthy?
Very early on, reading about the abuse (before she got into the physical abuse) made me very uncomfortable.
I thought the writing was terrible in some parts. But, it was an interesting read. It confirmed my worst suspicions about survivalists, unfortunately. And, yes, I know not everyone is abusive or bipoloar. But, good god, her parents were awful people.
I just finished the book this week. I thought the writing and story were incredible. Yes, many in her family were awful in a lot of ways, but I was struck by how nuanced a portrait she drew of the worst of them.
You can google "Butterfly Express" to find out more about the people in the family who are given pseudonyms in the book--they are clearly now very successful. I didn't find much online re the dad or the awful brother. Someone clearly helped them scrub their online presence. There is a letter from her family's lawyer that attempts to cast doubt on parts of her account but has the opposite effect. It's cool to see the photos of Tyler and Richard. They look exactly like I expected. There's also a nice article that refers to her brother Luke, who gets surgery that helps restore much of the lost sight in his injured eye.
I found pictures of her brother “Shawn”, his wife, sick baby and new baby. I didn’t see any pictures of her dad, and I didn’t find her sister.
I wasn’t wowed during the first half, but the book came together nicely at the end.
I found dad’s pics prior to the accident, it’s in her mom’s accounts. Found “Shawn” and the rest of them too.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find information about her family? Like, did they really become that wealthy?
Very early on, reading about the abuse (before she got into the physical abuse) made me very uncomfortable.
I thought the writing was terrible in some parts. But, it was an interesting read. It confirmed my worst suspicions about survivalists, unfortunately. And, yes, I know not everyone is abusive or bipoloar. But, good god, her parents were awful people.
I just finished the book this week. I thought the writing and story were incredible. Yes, many in her family were awful in a lot of ways, but I was struck by how nuanced a portrait she drew of the worst of them.
You can google "Butterfly Express" to find out more about the people in the family who are given pseudonyms in the book--they are clearly now very successful. I didn't find much online re the dad or the awful brother. Someone clearly helped them scrub their online presence. There is a letter from her family's lawyer that attempts to cast doubt on parts of her account but has the opposite effect. It's cool to see the photos of Tyler and Richard. They look exactly like I expected. There's also a nice article that refers to her brother Luke, who gets surgery that helps restore much of the lost sight in his injured eye.
Anonymous wrote:I enjoyed the story but wasn't blown away like the others here seem to have been. I've read memoir's that drew me in more and where the evolution of the person made more sense to me.
It wasn't clear where her drive to learn and change came from. Her decisions seemed to just happen.
Not that she isn't incredible and her story isn't meaningful. Just the narrative didn't strike me as it seemed to others.
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone find information about her family? Like, did they really become that wealthy?
Very early on, reading about the abuse (before she got into the physical abuse) made me very uncomfortable.
I thought the writing was terrible in some parts. But, it was an interesting read. It confirmed my worst suspicions about survivalists, unfortunately. And, yes, I know not everyone is abusive or bipoloar. But, good god, her parents were awful people.
Anonymous wrote:I enjoyed the story but wasn't blown away like the others here seem to have been. I've read memoir's that drew me in more and where the evolution of the person made more sense to me.
It wasn't clear where her drive to learn and change came from. Her decisions seemed to just happen.
Not that she isn't incredible and her story isn't meaningful. Just the narrative didn't strike me as it seemed to others.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've been going through the media section on her website:
https://tarawestover.com/media/
I've listened/watched/read a few things. She's basically sticking to the same talking points, which don't really convey much new. She knows the family she is in touch with has read the book. She thinks some family from whom she is estranged have read it but doesn't know. She's come to recognize that whether she is back in touch with her parents/brother is their decision, not hers. She sounds pretty healthy.
The one new thing I learned is that she started to write in a writers group and found she was terrible (academic writing vs narrative writing). So she decided she needed to learn ,and listened to the New Yorker short story podcast (where the authors talk about their writing techniques and break down what works in the story and why) to recognize and figure out good writing.
The one thing I wonder that I haven't seen answered is what is her job right now? Is she living off the book / speaking? Does she have or want an academic job? What is her career path?
I'm also curious if she sees herself marrying and having children someday. Haven't seen that asked/answered yet.
Have you listened to the podcast Mormon Stories episode 903? She has a done a few interviews there but that one seemed different, While there weren’t a ton of new facts (there were some including the writing point you mentioned), it delved into her point of view on a few life things, I enjoyed it,
Anonymous wrote:I've been going through the media section on her website:
https://tarawestover.com/media/
I've listened/watched/read a few things. She's basically sticking to the same talking points, which don't really convey much new. She knows the family she is in touch with has read the book. She thinks some family from whom she is estranged have read it but doesn't know. She's come to recognize that whether she is back in touch with her parents/brother is their decision, not hers. She sounds pretty healthy.
The one new thing I learned is that she started to write in a writers group and found she was terrible (academic writing vs narrative writing). So she decided she needed to learn ,and listened to the New Yorker short story podcast (where the authors talk about their writing techniques and break down what works in the story and why) to recognize and figure out good writing.
The one thing I wonder that I haven't seen answered is what is her job right now? Is she living off the book / speaking? Does she have or want an academic job? What is her career path?
I'm also curious if she sees herself marrying and having children someday. Haven't seen that asked/answered yet.