Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 11:26     Subject: Re:MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t take a crack investigator to know that MS 13 is in our schools. These stories are about Fairfax County............

In affluent Fairfax County, Va., there were nearly 1,500 members, according to a 2015 police intelligence report. The report said there were about 2,000 members representing 80 different gangs in the county, however, 70 percent of the members were affiliated with MS-13, a police spokesperson told the Washington Post.

That means there were about 1,400 gang members affiliated with MS-13 in the county.

But things may be looking up.

According to an estimate given to the Post in June by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, there were roughly 900 to 1,100 MS-13 members in the greater Washington, D.C. region, of which Fairfax County makes up a large part.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/25/ms-13-has-nearly-as-many-members-as-police-in-one-wealthy-virginia-county.html

A decade ago, the gang MS-13 was weakened to the point it was considered a lower priority for law enforcement in the D.C. metro region.

But a series of factors has given new strength to the gang, and it has drawn renewed attention after a series of high-profile killings.

“We have seen a resurgence of MS-13 in the past four or five years,” said an FBI agent who spoke with WTOP on the condition of anonymity. A Fairfax County gang task force leader who has tracked MS-13 for more than 15 years says the gang is “much more violent” than ever.

Three murders associated with the gang have been committed in Virginia this year; two more were committed in Montgomery County, Maryland, last year. A total of 30 suspects believed to be connected with the gang have been arrested in these killings, including 10 juveniles, some of whom are being charged as adults. (Not all the victims were connected with MS-13.)

And 29 members of MS-13 were arrested recently in a nationwide gang crackdown, including 11 at a house in Falls Church in April.

The gang deals largely in drug-running, extortion (in the form of protection rackets) and sex trafficking, a number of sources in and out of law enforcement said.

They have developed a “more advanced and regulated structure than many other gangs in the United States,” the FBI agent told WTOP.
“The vast majority of their crimes are gang-on-gang,” inspired by the need to control territory and the crime-related revenue that comes from such control, Jay Lanham, a retired assistant chief of the Prince William County police and executive director of the Northern Virginia Gang Task Force, said.
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“A couple of years ago, the gangs started recruiting heavily in the schools to up their numbers,” Lanham said. Juveniles now make up a majority of the MS-13 members he sees.

In a 2009 report, the Northern Virginia task force said that three-quarters of members of all gangs in Northern Virginia said they’d joined by age 14, one-quarter by age 12. Lanham said that number has only gone up.


https://wtop.com/local/2017/06/ms-13-how-a-gang-was-revitalized-in-the-dc-area/


So out of that 1400, how many are in HS? And which HSs?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 11:24     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

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Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Wait. This pp stating that there is a range of MS-13 activity in all the schools in the area, based on her dh's law enforcement/gang work experience, is somehow anti-immigrant propaganda? How so? Do you know that this is untrue based on your own personal experience of gang related activity in the area public schools? Please, counter her statement with your own facts.


I call BS on PP. No facts. Just a claim to stir everyone up.


Really? Here's an actual connection, but you'll no doubt call BS on this, too. I have no idea why you wish to put your blinders on but be grateful that you're so far away from any of this that you're able to. My ds had a classmate who was murdered a few months ago by an MS-13 member who was also a student at his FCPS high school.


Which school? Link to story?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/two-more-charged-with-murder-in-ms-13-related-killing-of-fairfax-teen/2017/12/21/98d033f0-e666-11e7-ab50-621fe0588340_story.html?utm_term=.856308d5d5a3
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 11:23     Subject: Re:MS-13 in local schools

It doesn’t take a crack investigator to know that MS 13 is in our schools. These stories are about Fairfax County............

In affluent Fairfax County, Va., there were nearly 1,500 members, according to a 2015 police intelligence report. The report said there were about 2,000 members representing 80 different gangs in the county, however, 70 percent of the members were affiliated with MS-13, a police spokesperson told the Washington Post.

That means there were about 1,400 gang members affiliated with MS-13 in the county.

But things may be looking up.

According to an estimate given to the Post in June by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, there were roughly 900 to 1,100 MS-13 members in the greater Washington, D.C. region, of which Fairfax County makes up a large part.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/25/ms-13-has-nearly-as-many-members-as-police-in-one-wealthy-virginia-county.html

A decade ago, the gang MS-13 was weakened to the point it was considered a lower priority for law enforcement in the D.C. metro region.

But a series of factors has given new strength to the gang, and it has drawn renewed attention after a series of high-profile killings.

“We have seen a resurgence of MS-13 in the past four or five years,” said an FBI agent who spoke with WTOP on the condition of anonymity. A Fairfax County gang task force leader who has tracked MS-13 for more than 15 years says the gang is “much more violent” than ever.

Three murders associated with the gang have been committed in Virginia this year; two more were committed in Montgomery County, Maryland, last year. A total of 30 suspects believed to be connected with the gang have been arrested in these killings, including 10 juveniles, some of whom are being charged as adults. (Not all the victims were connected with MS-13.)

And 29 members of MS-13 were arrested recently in a nationwide gang crackdown, including 11 at a house in Falls Church in April.

The gang deals largely in drug-running, extortion (in the form of protection rackets) and sex trafficking, a number of sources in and out of law enforcement said.

They have developed a “more advanced and regulated structure than many other gangs in the United States,” the FBI agent told WTOP.
“The vast majority of their crimes are gang-on-gang,” inspired by the need to control territory and the crime-related revenue that comes from such control, Jay Lanham, a retired assistant chief of the Prince William County police and executive director of the Northern Virginia Gang Task Force, said.
-
“A couple of years ago, the gangs started recruiting heavily in the schools to up their numbers,” Lanham said. Juveniles now make up a majority of the MS-13 members he sees.

In a 2009 report, the Northern Virginia task force said that three-quarters of members of all gangs in Northern Virginia said they’d joined by age 14, one-quarter by age 12. Lanham said that number has only gone up.


https://wtop.com/local/2017/06/ms-13-how-a-gang-was-revitalized-in-the-dc-area/
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 11:16     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Wait. This pp stating that there is a range of MS-13 activity in all the schools in the area, based on her dh's law enforcement/gang work experience, is somehow anti-immigrant propaganda? How so? Do you know that this is untrue based on your own personal experience of gang related activity in the area public schools? Please, counter her statement with your own facts.


I call BS on PP. No facts. Just a claim to stir everyone up.


Really? Here's an actual connection, but you'll no doubt call BS on this, too. I have no idea why you wish to put your blinders on but be grateful that you're so far away from any of this that you're able to. My ds had a classmate who was murdered a few months ago by an MS-13 member who was also a student at his FCPS high school.


Which school? Link to story?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 10:28     Subject: Re:MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:To be fair - nobody disagrees that we should deport violent gang members that are in this country illegally. But don’t kid yourselves that this is what Trump’s immigration policy is about. These MS 13 criminals make up a tiny minority of people that are in this country illegally.


A tiny minority that is creating havoc and harm intentionally and in a very callous, cruel manner.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 10:26     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Wait. This pp stating that there is a range of MS-13 activity in all the schools in the area, based on her dh's law enforcement/gang work experience, is somehow anti-immigrant propaganda? How so? Do you know that this is untrue based on your own personal experience of gang related activity in the area public schools? Please, counter her statement with your own facts.


I call BS on PP. No facts. Just a claim to stir everyone up.


Really? Here's an actual connection, but you'll no doubt call BS on this, too. I have no idea why you wish to put your blinders on but be grateful that you're so far away from any of this that you're able to. My ds had a classmate who was murdered a few months ago by an MS-13 member who was also a student at his FCPS high school.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 09:23     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

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Anonymous wrote:Trump and the Rs are working hard on this, MS-13 and their victims will be kicked out soon.


Why expel victims? We should help them.


Most of the victims are also illegals.


Read the WAPO article. Lots of this involves the unaccompanied minors. Prince George's had an influx of 5,000. That's hard to absorb.


DACA needs to end permanently.


This has nothing to do with DACA and you damn well know it.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 09:21     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Wait. This pp stating that there is a range of MS-13 activity in all the schools in the area, based on her dh's law enforcement/gang work experience, is somehow anti-immigrant propaganda? How so? Do you know that this is untrue based on your own personal experience of gang related activity in the area public schools? Please, counter her statement with your own facts.


I call BS on PP. No facts. Just a claim to stir everyone up.


The reality of MS-13 gang activity in DC/MOCO/NoVA is not up for debate. You can look up the statistics yourself if you choose. It doesn't mean the schools are bad. Most kids won't be affected at all by gang activity even when attending schools with a lot of gang members. However, just because you don't see it - just because your child isn't a target- doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And unfortunately, immigrant children, regardless of status, are targets. We need to fix this. It's been going on way too long. If you are a known gang member, you should be jailed if your are a citizen and immediately deported if you are not. If you are a minor and your family is here without documentation and you commit a violent crime, your entire family goes. It's harsh, but we have to protect all of our kids.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 09:20     Subject: Re:MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democrat, but I support Trump 100% on kicking these type of monsters out of our country.

They why is ICE focusing on raiding landscape companies rather than going after MS13 right in his own backyard?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 09:09     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Wait. This pp stating that there is a range of MS-13 activity in all the schools in the area, based on her dh's law enforcement/gang work experience, is somehow anti-immigrant propaganda? How so? Do you know that this is untrue based on your own personal experience of gang related activity in the area public schools? Please, counter her statement with your own facts.


I call BS on PP. No facts. Just a claim to stir everyone up.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 09:08     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Nice try. I'm a liberal, pro-immigrant, DACA supporting Dem. But I'm not stupid. I'm not blind. The vast majority of undocumented people who come to America are hard-working people seeking a better life. But (1) You sound very bigoted when you assume all MS-13 menbers are here illegally. Hint, many are citizens. And (2) Not everyone who enters the country does so with good intentions.

YOU are the reason we have trump. You are exactly why Republicans voted for him.



I didn’t say anyrhng about illegal vs legal. You are projecting.

Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 08:47     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Wait. This pp stating that there is a range of MS-13 activity in all the schools in the area, based on her dh's law enforcement/gang work experience, is somehow anti-immigrant propaganda? How so? Do you know that this is untrue based on your own personal experience of gang related activity in the area public schools? Please, counter her statement with your own facts.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 08:16     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Nice try. I'm a liberal, pro-immigrant, DACA supporting Dem. But I'm not stupid. I'm not blind. The vast majority of undocumented people who come to America are hard-working people seeking a better life. But (1) You sound very bigoted when you assume all MS-13 menbers are here illegally. Hint, many are citizens. And (2) Not everyone who enters the country does so with good intentions.

YOU are the reason we have trump. You are exactly why Republicans voted for him.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 08:10     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.


Illegal immigrant. Anti illegal immigrant.

I'm a legal immigrant and I want this pro-illegal immigration garbage the Dems are trying to push to stop.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2018 08:07     Subject: MS-13 in local schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which high schools have MS-13?


In this area? Most.


Name some.


Are you really this naive? ALL the schools in this area have some MS-13 activity. All of them. My DH is federal law enforcement and worked violent crime and gangs for years. Of course, some schools are worse than others but none are exempt.



More anti-immigrant propaganda. All of the fearful nitwits will eat this up.