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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

This is demographics, not ability or achievement. Most of the private colleges listed in the McLean’s matriculation list cost around $70k/year. Out of state publics cost around $40-50k. You would likely find a similar list at Langley or Madison.

Probably so. Also, the top publics in MCPS (that, unlike McLean, aren't losing 40 of their top kids to TJ or an equivalent every year) look better than Langley/McLean/Madison.

Actually we have 4 strong magnets in MOCO, not just one, so we lose even more kids.

I’ve seen MCPS reports on student transfers and that’s not the case. Schools like Whitman and Churchill weren’t each sending 150-160 students to magnets, which is the case in several FCPS pyramids (Langley, McLean, Oakton and Chantilly).

Incorrect, most of the kids move to magnets in 6th grade. So you would need to look at those numbers. Also, now you are comparing 40 for VA to 150-160 to MOCO. Which is it? Remember, due to vicinity of the privates, we also lose a lot more to privates than VA does.

I hate the VA-MD debates, but you can't peddle false info, it is misleading to parents who use these threads for decision making.

About 40 students per class equals around 160 transfers out of these pyramids to TJ, so there’s no inconsistency.

I recall seeing an MCPS report about transfers within MCPS (I believe the impetus may have been whether students from the DCC were being disadvantaged) and having a distinct recollection the transfers out of the W schools to the MCPS magnets were smaller).

And I hadn’t said anything about students attending privates. My understanding from various Census files is that Bethesda and Chevy Chase both send a higher percentage of kids to privates than NoVa. Whether those kids are the same caliber intellectually as the kids getting into TJ is an interesting question.

Anonymous wrote:HB had a good year, with at least one student going to:

Harvard, Stanford, Dartmouth, Cornell, Northwestern, Duke, and Johns Hopkins in a class of ~80.

HB typically has "good years." Assuming conservatively that 4 HB classes graduate a roughly equal amount of students to one McLean (it's really five, since HB has fewer than 100 in a class), in the four years before this year HB sent combined:

UVA (21)
William & Mary (19)
Brown (6)
Yale (4)
Reed (4)
Pomona (2)
Georgetown (2)
Wesleyan (2)
Harvard
Stanford
Columbia
Northwestern
Duke
Johns Hopkins
University of Chicago
Wash U
Rice
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt
Carleton
Bowdoin
Emory
Grinnell
Macalester
Bates
Tufts
Wesleyan
Emory
Bryn Mawr
Smith
NYU
Carnegie Mellon

Not a lot of non-magnet school anywhere in our earlier with these results.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

This is demographics, not ability or achievement. Most of the private colleges listed in the McLean’s matriculation list cost around $70k/year. Out of state publics cost around $40-50k. You would likely find a similar list at Langley or Madison.

Probably so. Also, the top publics in MCPS (that, unlike McLean, aren't losing 40 of their top kids to TJ or an equivalent every year) look better than Langley/McLean/Madison.

Actually we have 4 strong magnets in MOCO, not just one, so we lose even more kids.

I’ve seen MCPS reports on student transfers and that’s not the case. Schools like Whitman and Churchill weren’t each sending 150-160 students to magnets, which is the case in several FCPS pyramids (Langley, McLean, Oakton and Chantilly).

Incorrect, most of the kids move to magnets in 6th grade. So you would need to look at those numbers. Also, now you are comparing 40 for VA to 150-160 to MOCO. Which is it? Remember, due to vicinity of the privates, we also lose a lot more to privates than VA does.

I hate the VA-MD debates, but you can't peddle false info, it is misleading to parents who use these threads for decision making.

And you're telling somebody else not to peddle false or misleading info? How do you know how many NOVA parents go private? Also, there are several top privates in NOVA and several more in the city that are just as close to NOVA as MoCo. Pur up real numbers or shut up.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

HB Woodlawn's results aren't posted for 2018 yet, but in a typical year they get almost as many grads into the Ivies as McLean and they're only about 1/5 of the size.

Wow, really? If it's consistently 5 times the number of McLean's for Ivies, that school is better than TJ.

You might want to brush up on your reading skills. I said they get almost as many but are 1/5 the size. That doesn't mean 5 times as many, even extrapolating.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

This is demographics, not ability or achievement. Most of the private colleges listed in the McLean’s matriculation list cost around $70k/year. Out of state publics cost around $40-50k. You would likely find a similar list at Langley or Madison.

Probably so. Also, the top publics in MCPS (that, unlike McLean, aren't losing 40 of their top kids to TJ or an equivalent every year) look better than Langley/McLean/Madison.

Actually we have 4 strong magnets in MOCO, not just one, so we lose even more kids.

I’ve seen MCPS reports on student transfers and that’s not the case. Schools like Whitman and Churchill weren’t each sending 150-160 students to magnets, which is the case in several FCPS pyramids (Langley, McLean, Oakton and Chantilly).

Incorrect, most of the kids move to magnets in 6th grade. So you would need to look at those numbers. Also, now you are comparing 40 for VA to 150-160 to MOCO. Which is it? Remember, due to vicinity of the privates, we also lose a lot more to privates than VA does.

I hate the VA-MD debates, but you can't peddle false info, it is misleading to parents who use these threads for decision making.

HB had a good year, with at least one student going to:

Harvard, Stanford, Dartmouth, Cornell, Northwestern, Duke, and Johns Hopkins in a class of ~80.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

This is demographics, not ability or achievement. Most of the private colleges listed in the McLean’s matriculation list cost around $70k/year. Out of state publics cost around $40-50k. You would likely find a similar list at Langley or Madison.

Probably so. Also, the top publics in MCPS (that, unlike McLean, aren't losing 40 of their top kids to TJ or an equivalent every year) look better than Langley/McLean/Madison.

Actually we have 4 strong magnets in MOCO, not just one, so we lose even more kids.

I’ve seen MCPS reports on student transfers and that’s not the case. Schools like Whitman and Churchill weren’t each sending 150-160 students to magnets, which is the case in several FCPS pyramids (Langley, McLean, Oakton and Chantilly).

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

This is demographics, not ability or achievement. Most of the private colleges listed in the McLean’s matriculation list cost around $70k/year. Out of state publics cost around $40-50k. You would likely find a similar list at Langley or Madison.

Probably so. Also, the top publics in MCPS (that, unlike McLean, aren't losing 40 of their top kids to TJ or an equivalent every year) look better than Langley/McLean/Madison.

Actually we have 4 strong magnets in MOCO, not just one, so we lose even more kids.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

HB Woodlawn's results aren't posted for 2018 yet, but in a typical year they get almost as many grads into the Ivies as McLean and they're only about 1/5 of the size.

Wow, really? If it's consistently 5 times the number of McLean's for Ivies, that school is better than TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

HB Woodlawn's results aren't posted for 2018 yet, but in a typical year they get almost as many grads into the Ivies as McLean and they're only about 1/5 of the size.

I question whether you have access to information that would allow you to make an apples-to-apples comparison on Ivy admissions. FCPS no longer provides that data to Arlington Magazine like APS does (and, even when FCPS used to, it would redact certain information that made comparisons difficult).

I'm simply going on what's been posted on this thread about McLean and what's available on HB's website. Is the McLean info here wrong? It sure doesn't seem like it.

In that case you’re not referring to admissions, but to matriculations, based on self-reported data by some students in one year’s class.

When it comes to the Ivies, which have very high yields, it’s safe to assume that the large majority of admitted students choose to attend. So you’re splitting hairs. I don’t think very many McLean high school graduates are turning down offers for the Ivy League.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

HB Woodlawn's results aren't posted for 2018 yet, but in a typical year they get almost as many grads into the Ivies as McLean and they're only about 1/5 of the size.

I question whether you have access to information that would allow you to make an apples-to-apples comparison on Ivy admissions. FCPS no longer provides that data to Arlington Magazine like APS does (and, even when FCPS used to, it would redact certain information that made comparisons difficult).

I'm simply going on what's been posted on this thread about McLean and what's available on HB's website. Is the McLean info here wrong? It sure doesn't seem like it.

In that case you’re not referring to admissions, but to matriculations, based on self-reported data by some students in one year’s class.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

HB Woodlawn's results aren't posted for 2018 yet, but in a typical year they get almost as many grads into the Ivies as McLean and they're only about 1/5 of the size.

I question whether you have access to information that would allow you to make an apples-to-apples comparison on Ivy admissions. FCPS no longer provides that data to Arlington Magazine like APS does (and, even when FCPS used to, it would redact certain information that made comparisons difficult).

I'm simply going on what's been posted on this thread about McLean and what's available on HB's website. Is the McLean info here wrong? It sure doesn't seem like it.

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

HB Woodlawn's results aren't posted for 2018 yet, but in a typical year they get almost as many grads into the Ivies as McLean and they're only about 1/5 of the size.

I question whether you have access to information that would allow you to make an apples-to-apples comparison on Ivy admissions. FCPS no longer provides that data to Arlington Magazine like APS does (and, even when FCPS used to, it would redact certain information that made comparisons difficult).

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Anonymous wrote:From these data posted, McLean is indeed showing its strength in its superior academic quality among the non-magnet public schools. Apparently it's the elite colleges' favorite. Good for them.

Yes, actually surprised at the marked difference between McLean and the other fcps schools' results. I wasn't expecting that much of a distinct difference between nova public hs.

HB Woodlawn's results aren't posted for 2018 yet, but in a typical year they get almost as many grads into the Ivies as McLean and they're only about 1/5 of the size.

Anyone has stats for madison in Vienna?