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Anonymous wrote:3.5 GPA
26 ACT
no Ap's, no honors
recruited athlete, decided to go D1 over NESCAC, going to Patriot League

No offense but those stats would only get into the very bottom NESCACs, if that

What the hell is a NESCAC?

Something to do with sports - I think is a sports league
I think colleges give preferences to good athletes who can play on college sports teams and are willing to offer admission to these student athletes even if their stats are lower than the norm

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Anonymous wrote:3.5 GPA
26 ACT
no Ap's, no honors
recruited athlete, decided to go D1 over NESCAC, going to Patriot League

No offense but those stats would only get into the very bottom NESCACs, if that

What the hell is a NESCAC?

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Anonymous wrote:3.5 GPA
26 ACT
no Ap's, no honors
recruited athlete, decided to go D1 over NESCAC, going to Patriot League

No offense but those stats would only get into the very bottom NESCACs, if that

+1

I don't think those stats would get into any NESCAC school, including the bottom-ranked ones.

You don't know what you are talking about. The bolded stat is the important one. It all depends what sport and how good he is.

I know exactly what I'm talking about because my DC was a recruited athlete at a top NESCAC and those stats at best might get you into Trinity.

I'm not trying to be rude but my son did get recruited with those stats to a top NESCAC, they asked him to retake his ACT to bring up the team average.

He is above the IVY index.

This gives me hope. DD is a junior athlete at a big 3 with Ivy aspirations She got a 29 on her first attempt at the ACT this spring and is working with a tutor this summer. Her GPA is 3.4 unweighted in mix of honors and nonhonors classes. She is a v. competitive athlete -- would be a top ivy recruit could also compete at better flagships. Right now i think her academic stats are low for the Ivies but I dont know if big 3 school + recruiting offset.

DS is at an FCPS IB school that gets bashed here all the time. 4.1 GPA. Full IB Candidate. Top 5% of his class. 1300 SAT. Team Captain for two years in two different varsity sports. Earned letter in both sports all four years. Marching Band for four years. Section Leader his senior year. Part time job. Eagle Scout. Boys State. No hooks. Excellent letter of recommendation from his English teacher (She let him read it about two weeks ago.) He's going to W&M and will study Economics.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3.5 GPA
26 ACT
no Ap's, no honors
recruited athlete, decided to go D1 over NESCAC, going to Patriot League

No offense but those stats would only get into the very bottom NESCACs, if that

+1

I don't think those stats would get into any NESCAC school, including the bottom-ranked ones.

You don't know what you are talking about. The bolded stat is the important one. It all depends what sport and how good he is.

I know exactly what I'm talking about because my DC was a recruited athlete at a top NESCAC and those stats at best might get you into Trinity.

I'm not trying to be rude but my son did get recruited with those stats to a top NESCAC, they asked him to retake his ACT to bring up the team average.

He is above the IVY index.

4.23 GPA - 3rd in class of 31
AP Physics, AP Calc AB & BC - 4's on all 3
27 ACT
Charter school
No significant extracurriculars but was a peer tutor for physics.
Headed to Marquette.

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Just want to thank participants on this thread, because as a recent transplant to this country, I have no idea what colleges are looking for and how my children measure up.

Try the college confidential website for much better data.

And be aware that colleges aren't just looking at GPA and SATs in the US, compared to most other countries where it's all about the scores. US colleges care about extra curriculars, URM status, sports, legacy, location (e.g. North Dakota vs Virginia students), VIP status, male/female etc etc. Also your kid is competing against their own high school classmates often, especially at those colleges that assess all applicants from one high school as a group.

Why is everyone afraid to give the name of the school? All get are Big Ten or NESCAC or Patriot League , etc.

ACT 31
GPA 4.1
8 APs 4s and 5s.
Nearly no in school activities, but one big unusual integrated out of school activity that included national and local experiences.

stronger in the sciences than in humanities.

Result: A highly regarded big ten engineering school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3.5 GPA
26 ACT
no Ap's, no honors
recruited athlete, decided to go D1 over NESCAC, going to Patriot League

No offense but those stats would only get into the very bottom NESCACs, if that

+1

I don't think those stats would get into any NESCAC school, including the bottom-ranked ones.

You don't know what you are talking about. The bolded stat is the important one. It all depends what sport and how good he is.

I know exactly what I'm talking about because my DC was a recruited athlete at a top NESCAC and those stats at best might get you into Trinity.

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Anonymous wrote:Good stats are necessary but not sufficient for admission. DC is Columbia-bound with As and A-s with 1560 SATs from a Big 3. Just one AP at the start of senior year. Accepted at Brown and Berkeley too. Unhooked, just embarrassingly strong recs from teachers and college counselor.

How do you know this? At DC's school, the recs were sent directly to the colleges and DC not allowed to see them.

It is generally considered a good idea to check the box where you waive your right to see the recommendations, but:

You should ask the teachers before they write the recommendation what they will say. If you don't like the answer and don't think it accurately describes you, get someone else. Some teachers like some kids more than others. Most want their kids to succeed.

Of course this does not help with the GC, but you can ask them also, and it is entirely legitimate to discuss. Do not be shy!

Most kids that age can't spot damning with faint praise.
Pretty sure most teachers are pretty good at this.

Yes, and that is why it should be discussed and not assumed.

but what they don't tell you is they gave a couple of other kids applying to that same college even better recs. You can't ask them about that.

Like you may think "Sally is a very talented and hard working student" sounds great.

Compare to "Bob is one of the top 1 or 2 students I've taught in this subject in the last 25 years."

I'm just saying most kids don't know the key phrases that may make all the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Good stats are necessary but not sufficient for admission. DC is Columbia-bound with As and A-s with 1560 SATs from a Big 3. Just one AP at the start of senior year. Accepted at Brown and Berkeley too. Unhooked, just embarrassingly strong recs from teachers and college counselor.

How do you know this? At DC's school, the recs were sent directly to the colleges and DC not allowed to see them.

It is generally considered a good idea to check the box where you waive your right to see the recommendations, but:

You should ask the teachers before they write the recommendation what they will say. If you don't like the answer and don't think it accurately describes you, get someone else. Some teachers like some kids more than others. Most want their kids to succeed.

Of course this does not help with the GC, but you can ask them also, and it is entirely legitimate to discuss. Do not be shy!

Most kids that age can't spot damning with faint praise.
Pretty sure most teachers are pretty good at this.

Yes, and that is why it should be discussed and not assumed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good stats are necessary but not sufficient for admission. DC is Columbia-bound with As and A-s with 1560 SATs from a Big 3. Just one AP at the start of senior year. Accepted at Brown and Berkeley too. Unhooked, just embarrassingly strong recs from teachers and college counselor.

How do you know this? At DC's school, the recs were sent directly to the colleges and DC not allowed to see them.

It is generally considered a good idea to check the box where you waive your right to see the recommendations, but:

You should ask the teachers before they write the recommendation what they will say. If you don't like the answer and don't think it accurately describes you, get someone else. Some teachers like some kids more than others. Most want their kids to succeed.

Of course this does not help with the GC, but you can ask them also, and it is entirely legitimate to discuss. Do not be shy!

Most kids that age can't spot damning with faint praise.
Pretty sure most teachers are pretty good at this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good stats are necessary but not sufficient for admission. DC is Columbia-bound with As and A-s with 1560 SATs from a Big 3. Just one AP at the start of senior year. Accepted at Brown and Berkeley too. Unhooked, just embarrassingly strong recs from teachers and college counselor.

How do you know this? At DC's school, the recs were sent directly to the colleges and DC not allowed to see them.

It is generally considered a good idea to check the box where you waive your right to see the recommendations, but:

You should ask the teachers before they write the recommendation what they will say. If you don't like the answer and don't think it accurately describes you, get someone else. Some teachers like some kids more than others. Most want their kids to succeed.

Of course this does not help with the GC, but you can ask them also, and it is entirely legitimate to discuss. Do not be shy!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3.5 GPA
26 ACT
no Ap's, no honors
recruited athlete, decided to go D1 over NESCAC, going to Patriot League

No offense but those stats would only get into the very bottom NESCACs, if that

+1

I don't think those stats would get into any NESCAC school, including the bottom-ranked ones.

You don't know what you are talking about. The bolded stat is the important one. It all depends what sport and how good he is.