Anonymous
06/07/2018 13:28
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Paying someone to give you an advantage is totally fineand doping should be totally allowed in the Olympics too!
Anonymous
06/07/2018 13:15
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't the kids/parents just try harder. Many of the Asian American students who make it to magnets are from lower income families. Not all Asian Americans are wealthy, nor are their parents educated. Some of these parents will borrow money to send their kids to after school tutoring.
Why do these children need 'after school tutoring' to begin with? To cheat the system?
You are part of the problem as is anyone who sees studying more and working harder as "cheating the system"
Agree completely!
WTF? When did things get so a$$ backwards that a kid who works hard and studies is thought to have ‘cheated’ the system?
It's certainly much easier to call others "cheaters" instead of taking the challenge of achieving more academically. Those complainers never realize that it's the "cheaters" who keep MCPS afloat and still being regarded a "good school district", which attracts resources to the MCPS system. Without the "cheaters" and their high scores, MCPS's reputation would be on a par with PGPS.
+1 a bit schizo to say on the one hand that prepping is considered cheating but then tout the high test scores and such of such kids as proof that the school district is great.
+1000. I am so sick and tired of people thinking anyone who do some extra academic work outside school is somehow cheating or gaming the system.
I could understand if money were required in order to do the extra work. And yes, some families pay for tutoring and the like. But a lot of them just use free materials. Some of the high performing kids we know basically spend their summers in the library studying. When their old enough to get a job, they work and study. There is nothing they are doing that others couldn't. This isn't a case where money's buying kids access and thus privilege.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 13:04
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't the kids/parents just try harder. Many of the Asian American students who make it to magnets are from lower income families. Not all Asian Americans are wealthy, nor are their parents educated. Some of these parents will borrow money to send their kids to after school tutoring.
Why do these children need 'after school tutoring' to begin with? To cheat the system?
You are part of the problem as is anyone who sees studying more and working harder as "cheating the system"
Agree completely!
WTF? When did things get so a$$ backwards that a kid who works hard and studies is thought to have ‘cheated’ the system?
It's certainly much easier to call others "cheaters" instead of taking the challenge of achieving more academically. Those complainers never realize that it's the "cheaters" who keep MCPS afloat and still being regarded a "good school district", which attracts resources to the MCPS system. Without the "cheaters" and their high scores, MCPS's reputation would be on a par with PGPS.
+1 a bit schizo to say on the one hand that prepping is considered cheating but then tout the high test scores and such of such kids as proof that the school district is great.
+1000. I am so sick and tired of people thinking anyone who do some extra academic work outside school is somehow cheating or gaming the system.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 12:54
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't the kids/parents just try harder. Many of the Asian American students who make it to magnets are from lower income families. Not all Asian Americans are wealthy, nor are their parents educated. Some of these parents will borrow money to send their kids to after school tutoring.
Why do these children need 'after school tutoring' to begin with? To cheat the system?
You are part of the problem as is anyone who sees studying more and working harder as "cheating the system"
Agree completely!
WTF? When did things get so a$$ backwards that a kid who works hard and studies is thought to have ‘cheated’ the system?
It's certainly much easier to call others "cheaters" instead of taking the challenge of achieving more academically. Those complainers never realize that it's the "cheaters" who keep MCPS afloat and still being regarded a "good school district", which attracts resources to the MCPS system. Without the "cheaters" and their high scores, MCPS's reputation would be on a par with PGPS.
+1 a bit schizo to say on the one hand that prepping is considered cheating but then tout the high test scores and such of such kids as proof that the school district is great.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 12:50
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't the kids/parents just try harder. Many of the Asian American students who make it to magnets are from lower income families. Not all Asian Americans are wealthy, nor are their parents educated. Some of these parents will borrow money to send their kids to after school tutoring.
Why do these children need 'after school tutoring' to begin with? To cheat the system?
You are part of the problem as is anyone who sees studying more and working harder as "cheating the system"
Agree completely!
WTF? When did things get so a$$ backwards that a kid who works hard and studies is thought to have ‘cheated’ the system?
It's certainly much easier to call others "cheaters" instead of taking the challenge of achieving more academically. Those complainers never realize that it's the "cheaters" who keep MCPS afloat and still being regarded a "good school district", which attracts resources to the MCPS system. Without the "cheaters" and their high scores, MCPS's reputation would be on a par with PGPS.
no kidding. mCPS must be thanking its lucky stars that it has so much land in moCo that people have to suffer through its incompetency to live here.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 12:14
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous[b wrote:]I did read about this and they are suggesting taking the top performers from each middle school [/b]to constitute the new makeup of the select schools. This is what Texas does for college and it’s working out well for everyone except that one girl with the Supreme Court case. I think the numbers speak for themselves in NY. I hope they stick to the plan and level the playing field.
That is NOT what the NYT article said. Did you read the article?
Anonymous
06/07/2018 12:05
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:I did read about this and they are suggesting taking the top performers from each middle school to constitute the new makeup of the select schools. This is what Texas does for college and it’s working out well for everyone except that one girl with the Supreme Court case. I think the numbers speak for themselves in NY. I hope they stick to the plan and level the playing field.
+1.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 11:16
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
I did read about this and they are suggesting taking the top performers from each middle school to constitute the new makeup of the select schools. This is what Texas does for college and it’s working out well for everyone except that one girl with the Supreme Court case. I think the numbers speak for themselves in NY. I hope they stick to the plan and level the playing field.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 11:11
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Predict how this will work out. Struggling kids will end up taking all the teachers time and kids that are doing well will be ignored.
And the teachers are told not to fail Jquan, next thing you know you have a normal high school.
Put your hood back on, Sally. Your racism is showing.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 11:06
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:there are all sorts of "special schools and programs" in this county and in this county, but the crown jewels are always those require test-in. In a few years, those schools will be nothing special. If a student is well-qualified, the test requirement should not an obstacle at all.
What an odd attitude. The "crown jewels" of a school system are the schools that only a very small percentage of students are allowed to go to, by design? What about the other 99%+ of students?
Anonymous
06/07/2018 11:01
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't the kids/parents just try harder. Many of the Asian American students who make it to magnets are from lower income families. Not all Asian Americans are wealthy, nor are their parents educated. Some of these parents will borrow money to send their kids to after school tutoring.
Why do these children need 'after school tutoring' to begin with? To cheat the system?
You are part of the problem as is anyone who sees studying more and working harder as "cheating the system"
Agree completely!
WTF? When did things get so a$$ backwards that a kid who works hard and studies is thought to have ‘cheated’ the system?
It's certainly much easier to call others "cheaters" instead of taking the challenge of achieving more academically. Those complainers never realize that it's the "cheaters" who keep MCPS afloat and still being regarded a "good school district", which attracts resources to the MCPS system. Without the "cheaters" and their high scores, MCPS's reputation would be on a par with PGPS.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 11:01
Subject: Re:NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really hope this isn't the direction MCPS is going in. I support additional programs to minimize the achievement gap and think the best way is to reach children as early as possible and as intensively as possible PreK-3rd grade. I also think that MCPS has done a great job offering lots of programs in high school for students with different interests. There is a focus on the HS magnets on this forum but there are so many academies including technical academies in the DCC schools in particular.
What I cannot support is any lowering of academic standards to change the make up of ACADEMIC programs. It is not fair to the children who are deprived of an academic opportunity for no legitimate reason and it does over time result in a watering down of expectations and curriculum in highly rigorous academic programs.
There is a big difference between universal screening, increasing outreach and lowering barriers for children from all kinds of backgrounds to be screened and encouraged to apply and changing admissions criteria and standards. I support the former but cannot support the latter.
I agree.
And you know who ends up losing out the most in this NY program?
The URM kids who actually do work hard at their schools. Instead of taking the high performing kids and giving them a boost, this program aims to take the low performing kids and put them in a program that is above their level.
There needs to be more of a focus on meeting kids AT their level and helping them improve AT their level.
That would be private school. Or at least schools with 2 teachers per mixed ability classroom or smaller class sizes.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 11:00
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:there are all sorts of "special schools and programs" in this county and in this county, but the crown jewels are always those require test-in. In a few years, those schools will be nothing special. If a student is well-qualified, the test requirement should not an obstacle at all.
There are ZERO "special schools and programs" in west Bethesda and only 1 in general Bethesda. The chevy chase CES for 4th and 5th grade. Other than that zero language immersion special programs, zero science special programs, zero liberal arts special programs, zero LD special programs, zero engineering special programs, zero MS magnet schools, zero HS magnet schools.
Any special schools and programs would require lengthy commutes in rush hour or relocating.
County does not care, MCPS does not care. The mindset is the parents can take care of all of that stuff for those Bethesda kids, out side of school, with their own after-tax money.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 10:51
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
there are all sorts of "special schools and programs" in this county and in this county, but the crown jewels are always those require test-in. In a few years, those schools will be nothing special. If a student is well-qualified, the test requirement should not an obstacle at all.
Anonymous
06/07/2018 09:37
Subject: NYC Desegregation Plan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't the kids/parents just try harder. Many of the Asian American students who make it to magnets are from lower income families. Not all Asian Americans are wealthy, nor are their parents educated. Some of these parents will borrow money to send their kids to after school tutoring.
Why do these children need 'after school tutoring' to begin with? To cheat the system?
You are part of the problem as is anyone who sees studying more and working harder as "cheating the system"
The magnets are now for the hardest working? ok, settled.