Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of mc parents who value the diversity of T.C and have no fear that their kids will get a good education and be fine.
But ( and I’m gonna use a broad brush here) there is also a wanna be UMC (ish), waspy (wannabe), crew boosting (sorry, not all crew boosters), popped collar contingency at TC
They can’t afford private, so they are making the most of it. I find it more distasteful than ( alleged) gang activity.

Preach. A big part of the attraction for them to TC also is that it reflects well in college applications that their child is coming from a school with (SES, racial) demographics like TC. Never mind that their child is so isolated from the general TC population that it is incidental to them.

What do you recommend they do? Get with your program and move to 99% white N. Arlington? Would you think more highly of those UMC folks then?

Another sick ACPS thread on DCUM with Alexandria residents eating their own in real time.

Regarding your question, pp, sadly families leaving for N. Arlington is a regular occurance and no one, not even our ACPS School Board nor City Council fights to keep them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of mc parents who value the diversity of T.C and have no fear that their kids will get a good education and be fine.
But ( and I’m gonna use a broad brush here) there is also a wanna be UMC (ish), waspy (wannabe), crew boosting (sorry, not all crew boosters), popped collar contingency at TC
They can’t afford private, so they are making the most of it. I find it more distasteful than ( alleged) gang activity.

Preach. A big part of the attraction for them to TC also is that it reflects well in college applications that their child is coming from a school with (SES, racial) demographics like TC. Never mind that their child is so isolated from the general TC population that it is incidental to them.

What do you recommend they do? Get with your program and move to 99% white N. Arlington? Would you think more highly of those UMC folks then?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Would you rather they just drop out, so your snowflakes don’t have to see them?

Some of them would. There's a contingent of upper-middle-class parents-- who have the means for private school* but opt into TC-- who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school that serves a diverse population. They'd like to pretend that their kids' little bubble at TC is the norm and not be reminded of real life. The problem is that ACPS enables their behavior; they market to those parents and let them believe that little Jaxon and Braelynn won't have to see or interact with The Less Fortunate.



*Or who don't quite have the means, but want to leave the impression that they do

This is bullshit people, and I call this poster out and yes, our kids recently went through the entire K-12 years at ACPS. This is not the truth.

What lies: "a contingent upper middle class parents who have means for private but opt into TC-who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school who serves a diverse population".

As proof this poster is a troll stirring the pot in ACPS for goodness knows what selfish reason. Alexandria City and ACPS values diversity and works well with it. Again, I call on the city to get teacher experts who focus on every student with great motivation. Raise teacher salaries, and empower them without admin telling them what to do. Cut ACPS admin.

NP here and no not BS. It's true.

What do you think it means to "value diversity" or "work well with it"?
It means the white UM parents send their kids there so they can say they value diversity but absolutely expect that their own kids will be protected in the honors/AP/sports bubble that exists. [u]
It's been this way since my child started in ACPS 8 years ago and now that we are moving into TC, I see that it is still very valid.
The diversity and poors help their kids out - their kids can do community service to help this less fortunate and then they can write a compelling college essay about their experience in a diverse school. Every Valedictorian speech in the past few years given by one of these kids has always talked up that angle. It's very popular with a liberal base.

The one thing that is is BS "little Jaxon and Braelynn". The PP is correct that the kids are "Jack, William, Audrey, or Elizabeth"

One is showing their own true colors and beliefs here, not necessarily applicable to "UM parents".

Indeed, we were easily UM when our kids went through ACPS. We never expected protection from honors/AP/sports bubble nor ever asked for it. In fact, my husband and myself worked behind the scenes to buy class room books and supplies for our kids teachers plus volunteered. We helped buy uniforms for those without on the TCW sports teams, paid for them and also picked up fellow classmates on the weekends and drove them to games, tournaments etc (often quite a distance). We were in charge of food and drinks for sports teams and spent a lot of time ensuring all players had relief during long games and all seasons.

Casting a wide brush against UM TCW parents is a fools errand and rings hollow.

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of mc parents who value the diversity of T.C and have no fear that their kids will get a good education and be fine.
But ( and I’m gonna use a broad brush here) there is also a wanna be UMC (ish), waspy (wannabe), crew boosting (sorry, not all crew boosters), popped collar contingency at TC
They can’t afford private, so they are making the most of it. I find it more distasteful than ( alleged) gang activity.

Preach. A big part of the attraction for them to TC also is that it reflects well in college applications that their child is coming from a school with (SES, racial) demographics like TC. Never mind that their child is so isolated from the general TC population that it is incidental to them.

Anonymous wrote:Looks like TC Williams girls recently won a state rowing championship (McLean boys won). Nice job, Titans!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/mclean-tc-williams-win-varsity-eight-titles-at-vasra-races/2018/05/12/69a7500a-539d-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html?utm_term=.c9b0730b0f22

Yes, their Girls Crew team has always been very good.

Looks like TC Williams girls recently won a state rowing championship (McLean boys won). Nice job, Titans!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/mclean-tc-williams-win-varsity-eight-titles-at-vasra-races/2018/05/12/69a7500a-539d-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html?utm_term=.c9b0730b0f22

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also don't think ACPS "enables" this behavior.

Remember (last year or the year before) when the group of (white, upper middle class) kids got so hammered in the limo before prom that at least one of the kids required medical attention? And then ACPS/TC admin ran interference and kept police involvement to a minimum so that these kids didn't lose their speaking/leadership roles at graduation? Those were good, wholesome times. Nothing enabling there, nope.

Happens at almost every HS in America. What's your point?

6:07 PP here. Look on page one, where posters equate having a daycare at TC as a negative, a challenging environment, and compare it to being like gang activity.

In conversations with people I still here others bring this up from time to time in a negative way, as if TC is a bad school because it has a daycare. I do not see a correlation between the quality of education at TC and a daycare unless you are specifically discussing sex Ed. But people love to throw it out there (it has a daycare, OMG). And it really says a lot about the speaker when they do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Would you rather they just drop out, so your snowflakes don’t have to see them?

Some of them would. There's a contingent of upper-middle-class parents-- who have the means for private school* but opt into TC-- who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school that serves a diverse population. They'd like to pretend that their kids' little bubble at TC is the norm and not be reminded of real life. The problem is that ACPS enables their behavior; they market to those parents and let them believe that little Jaxon and Braelynn won't have to see or interact with The Less Fortunate.



*Or who don't quite have the means, but want to leave the impression that they do

This is bullshit people, and I call this poster out and yes, our kids recently went through the entire K-12 years at ACPS. This is not the truth.

What lies: "a contingent upper middle class parents who have means for private but opt into TC-who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school who serves a diverse population".

As proof this poster is a troll stirring the pot in ACPS for goodness knows what selfish reason. Alexandria City and ACPS values diversity and works well with it. Again, I call on the city to get teacher experts who focus on every student with great motivation. Raise teacher salaries, and empower them without admin telling them what to do. Cut ACPS admin.

NP here and no not BS. It's true.

What do you think it means to "value diversity" or "work well with it"?
It means the white UM parents send their kids there so they can say they value diversity but absolutely expect that their own kids will be protected in the honors/AP/sports bubble that exists.
It's been this way since my child started in ACPS 8 years ago and now that we are moving into TC, I see that it is still very valid.
The diversity and poors help their kids out - their kids can do community service to help this less fortunate and then they can write a compelling college essay about their experience in a diverse school. Every Valedictorian speech in the past few years given by one of these kids has always talked up that angle. It's very popular with a liberal base.

The one thing that is is BS "little Jaxon and Braelynn". The PP is correct that the kids are "Jack, William, Audrey, or Elizabeth"

Why are you mentioning a term from electoral politics?

BTW, I am pretty sure UMC parents send their kids there mostly because they don't want to leave the City or pay for private. But they have no problem with diversity. From what I can gather some UMC stay in the bubble, and some do not. Pretty true in lots of parts of the region, including Fairfax AAP. Sounds like you just don't like the speeches. Me, I think its better than having schools segregated into upper SES ones and lower SES ones.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Would you rather they just drop out, so your snowflakes don’t have to see them?

Some of them would. There's a contingent of upper-middle-class parents-- who have the means for private school* but opt into TC-- who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school that serves a diverse population. They'd like to pretend that their kids' little bubble at TC is the norm and not be reminded of real life. The problem is that ACPS enables their behavior; they market to those parents and let them believe that little Jaxon and Braelynn won't have to see or interact with The Less Fortunate.



*Or who don't quite have the means, but want to leave the impression that they do

This is bullshit people, and I call this poster out and yes, our kids recently went through the entire K-12 years at ACPS. This is not the truth.

What lies: "a contingent upper middle class parents who have means for private but opt into TC-who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school who serves a diverse population".

As proof this poster is a troll stirring the pot in ACPS for goodness knows what selfish reason. Alexandria City and ACPS values diversity and works well with it. Again, I call on the city to get teacher experts who focus on every student with great motivation. Raise teacher salaries, and empower them without admin telling them what to do. Cut ACPS admin.

NP here and no not BS. It's true.

What do you think it means to "value diversity" or "work well with it"?
It means the white UM parents send their kids there so they can say they value diversity but absolutely expect that their own kids will be protected in the honors/AP/sports bubble that exists.
It's been this way since my child started in ACPS 8 years ago and now that we are moving into TC, I see that it is still very valid.
The diversity and poors help their kids out - their kids can do community service to help this less fortunate and then they can write a compelling college essay about their experience in a diverse school. Every Valedictorian speech in the past few years given by one of these kids has always talked up that angle. It's very popular with a liberal base.

The one thing that is is BS "little Jaxon and Braelynn". The PP is correct that the kids are "Jack, William, Audrey, or Elizabeth"

Anonymous wrote:Each TC class has hundreds of students. I'd be surprised if there weren't some wanna-be UMC families. Aren't there those at every school? There are ALSO plenty of other kinds of families.

It’s a bit specific to old town, but yes it’s a big metro area and there are all sorts everywhere..e

Each TC class has hundreds of students. I'd be surprised if there weren't some wanna-be UMC families. Aren't there those at every school? There are ALSO plenty of other kinds of families.

There are plenty of mc parents who value the diversity of T.C and have no fear that their kids will get a good education and be fine.
But ( and I’m gonna use a broad brush here) there is also a wanna be UMC (ish), waspy (wannabe), crew boosting (sorry, not all crew boosters), popped collar contingency at TC
They can’t afford private, so they are making the most of it. I find it more distasteful than ( alleged) gang activity.

Anonymous wrote:I also don't think ACPS "enables" this behavior.

Remember (last year or the year before) when the group of (white, upper middle class) kids got so hammered in the limo before prom that at least one of the kids required medical attention? And then ACPS/TC admin ran interference and kept police involvement to a minimum so that these kids didn't lose their speaking/leadership roles at graduation? Those were good, wholesome times. Nothing enabling there, nope.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Would you rather they just drop out, so your snowflakes don’t have to see them?

Some of them would. There's a contingent of upper-middle-class parents-- who have the means for private school* but opt into TC-- who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school that serves a diverse population. They'd like to pretend that their kids' little bubble at TC is the norm and not be reminded of real life. The problem is that ACPS enables their behavior; they market to those parents and let them believe that little Jaxon and Braelynn won't have to see or interact with The Less Fortunate.



*Or who don't quite have the means, but want to leave the impression that they do

This is bullshit people, and I call this poster out and yes, our kids recently went through the entire K-12 years at ACPS. This is not the truth.

What lies: "a contingent upper middle class parents who have means for private but opt into TC-who like to pretend that TC isn't a citywide school who serves a diverse population".

As proof this poster is a troll stirring the pot in ACPS for goodness knows what selfish reason. Alexandria City and ACPS values diversity and works well with it. Again, I call on the city to get teacher experts who focus on every student with great motivation. Raise teacher salaries, and empower them without admin telling them what to do. Cut ACPS admin.