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tallchris66 wrote:Yes it helps me. I'm a tall male, built shoulders, thick back and chest, 6 pack, biceps with veins. Kahki's and polo is all I ever wear cause it's dress code so it's never really a secret. People never forget me cause I'm tall and fit (a rare combination for a family man who is almost 40). I also love working with challenging people. If I can get in front of a prospect I can usually close them.

You’ve described your muscularity and height, but you do realize that being tall and muscular doesn’t mean you aren’t ugly?

You're absolutely right, and that's something I've wondered about my whole life. My somewhat cloistered upbringing (homeschooled 1-12th) kept me from even being aware that women had an opinion on guys' looks for quite some time. I'm still not sure, but my wife assures me that my prominent brow, and strong nose and jaw IS attractive, but it could just be her. As long as she's on board then I'm cool. lol. The other day, one of my son's teachers told me that she thought I was the most attractive dad in the whole school (large public school). Sigh, so two women think I'm not ugly. At least the rest of the women out there if they don't agree are polite enough to keep their opinions to themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:At work I dress conservatively, wear my hair up and wear little make-up. Early in my career I didn't do that and I got hit on all the time by a lot of guys single and married. Once I made the change at a new job it really made my professional life much easier. I met my DH at work and we were business friends for almost a year and then I invited him out because I thought he was really cute. When he saw me with my hair down, wearing some makeup and wearing a sundress he almost didn't recognize me. I don't think he was disappointed.

Same here. I’m Latina. Interesting to read posts by attractive white people framing being very good looking as a positive.

Being a Latina in a predominantly white workplaces and a very un-diverse industry, I can say the grief over my looks has been terrible. White men like and want to help me, until I won’t sleep or flirt with them, or accept advances. A lot of white women hate me almost on sight and, inevitably, the gossip, nitpicking, blowing up any minor mistakes I make etc. start. I know people are going to respond blaming me, somehow when I wear super high necklines, minimal makeup, flats, and boxy cuts, keep my hair up, and do other things to really downplay my looks, I get treated decently. I literally look like a school marm at work and have to take great pains to be obsequious and unassuming.

I think the assumption white people make that a Latina can’t have gotten a job on her own merits is amplified by the assumption that “hot” people also get preference and comes out as hostility/contempt. Mind you, I’m in a white collar position that no one gets without top credentials and my credentials are on the website.

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tallchris66 wrote:Yes it helps me. I'm a tall male, built shoulders, thick back and chest, 6 pack, biceps with veins. Kahki's and polo is all I ever wear cause it's dress code so it's never really a secret. People never forget me cause I'm tall and fit (a rare combination for a family man who is almost 40). I also love working with challenging people. If I can get in front of a prospect I can usually close them.

You’ve described your muscularity and height, but you do realize that being tall and muscular doesn’t mean you aren’t ugly?

tallchris66 wrote:Yes it helps me. I'm a tall male, built shoulders, thick back and chest, 6 pack, biceps with veins. Kahki's and polo is all I ever wear cause it's dress code so it's never really a secret. People never forget me cause I'm tall and fit (a rare combination for a family man who is almost 40). I also love working with challenging people. If I can get in front of a prospect I can usually close them.

tallchris66 wrote:Yes it helps me. I'm a tall male, built shoulders, thick back and chest, 6 pack, biceps with veins. Kahki's and polo is all I ever wear cause it's dress code so it's never really a secret. People never forget me cause I'm tall and fit (a rare combination for a family man who is almost 40). I also love working with challenging people. If I can get in front of a prospect I can usually close them.

Anonymous wrote:I'm in biglaw, and I think it helps a lot for women, not much for men. If you just look at the partnership ranks, the women mostly are very put-together, dress well, and in-shape. While there are a handful of truly attractive male partners, the rest of them are overweight-to-obese, have terrible grooming habits, and look about 20 years older than their actual age.

Anonymous wrote:I think it probably hurts me. I'm young (28) and look younger, and as an attorney I think I sometimes don't get the respect that my experience and ability deserve, especially from male OC.

Anonymous wrote:At work I dress conservatively, wear my hair up and wear little make-up. Early in my career I didn't do that and I got hit on all the time by a lot of guys single and married. Once I made the change at a new job it really made my professional life much easier. I met my DH at work and we were business friends for almost a year and then I invited him out because I thought he was really cute. When he saw me with my hair down, wearing some makeup and wearing a sundress he almost didn't recognize me. I don't think he was disappointed.

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Anonymous wrote:jennifer gates who is bill gates daughter is hot and rich. Sucks for her

that's a stretch. rich, yes but daddy isn't giving her any money. and hot? ...more like "cute".