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Anonymous wrote:Why would AAP reject a kid with a 140 WISC? That's extremely high. Are kids going to prep classes to get these scores?

You can't prep for an IQ test. Why is this so hard for people to understand. WISC is not like the CogAT or NNAT. There are no prep courses!

Of course you can, and of course there are prep courses. That's why you aren't supposed to take the same type of IQ test more than once a year, because taking them too close together has a similar effect to prepping.

As for how many 2nd graders prep for an IQ test, I don't think it's very many. But I have no real way of knowing.

I agree taking the same IQ test more than once in a year has the affect of prepping but there are no prep classes for IQ tests.

there are so many sites out there who provides material for WISC.

Anonymous wrote:Do you think FCPS AAP would reject a 140 IQ Score on appeal? (Origina scores were low 126 NNAT, 122 CogAT and 10 GBRS)

Based on the scores they rejectied first round, it's possible.

Anonymous wrote:"GBRS and holistic view" == warm and fuzzy crap to manipulate the result at the whims and fancy (of AARTs/Second Grade Teachers) instead of objectively basing on real intelligence tests

Did your DC with a 140 on a real intelligence test get rejected? I didn't think so. Why so negative?

"GBRS and holistic view" == warm and fuzzy crap to manipulate the result at the whims and fancy (of AARTs/Second Grade Teachers) instead of objectively basing on real intelligence tests

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

I don't think this is true. I think this is an anonymous board...I wouldn't believe everything you read. A child might be rejected with a 147 IQ if they are unable to be managed in the classroom and can't do the academics. High IQ does not necessarily mean they can complete the coursework or be successful in the program.

If it did...well IQ tests would replace SATs, GREs, etc.

Right. That’s why the committee does take into account the GBRS and does more of a holistic view.

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

This absolutely not true....but I do know a neighbor’s dc had a 150 is and was rejected...it happens all the time.

How can you say it's not true and then say you know a kid rejected with 150 WISC. Clearly it's true. I don't understand why they would reject a kid with a 150.

PP was joking. Clearly none of it is true.

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

I don't think this is true. I think this is an anonymous board...I wouldn't believe everything you read. A child might be rejected with a 147 IQ if they are unable to be managed in the classroom and can't do the academics. High IQ does not necessarily mean they can complete the coursework or be successful in the program.

If it did...well IQ tests would replace SATs, GREs, etc.

IQ tests don't replace those tests because I tests are expensive and require 1:1 administration. SAT, GRE, etc . . . Don't require 1:1 and are cheaper to administer (probably because they don't require 1:1)

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

I don't think this is true. I think this is an anonymous board...I wouldn't believe everything you read. A child might be rejected with a 147 IQ if they are unable to be managed in the classroom and can't do the academics. High IQ does not necessarily mean they can complete the coursework or be successful in the program.

If it did...well IQ tests would replace SATs, GREs, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

This absolutely not true....but I do know a neighbor’s dc had a 150 is and was rejected...it happens all the time.

How can you say it's not true and then say you know a kid rejected with 150 WISC. Clearly it's true. I don't understand why they would reject a kid with a 150.

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

This absolutely not true....but I do know a neighbor’s dc had a 150 is and was rejected...it happens all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would AAP reject a kid with a 140 WISC? That's extremely high. Are kids going to prep classes to get these scores?

You can't prep for an IQ test. Why is this so hard for people to understand. WISC is not like the CogAT or NNAT. There are no prep courses!

Of course you can, and of course there are prep courses. That's why you aren't supposed to take the same type of IQ test more than once a year, because taking them too close together has a similar effect to prepping.

As for how many 2nd graders prep for an IQ test, I don't think it's very many. But I have no real way of knowing.

It is posts like this that show how little people actually know and understand what IQ tests are measuring, No, you cannot prep and anyone who tells you differently is wrong. As for practice efforts, they are actually very small. Taking the WISC twice within a year (for study purposes only), only results in a 2 point increase in verbal and 6-8 point in performance. That is not going to turn an average kids into a kid with. 140 plus IQ.

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

Yep! I don't want it!

Anonymous wrote:No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.

FCPS rejected a kid with a 147 WISC but lets in kids with 132 CogATs. What a joke this AAP Program is!

IQ tests can't be "gamed." You can't take a child with average intelligence and prep them to the gifted level on the test (that is what 133 would put them at). You could, however, take a kid and familiarize them with the kids of questions, just like we do for kids for the SAT, and maybe they will get a couple of points higher, at most.

No such thing as “a lock.” One kid 147 got in another kid with similar scores didn’t.