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Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

You realize that Washington is awash in this sort of sleazball, right? Every lobbyist that sells their influence can be painted with the same brush. But come on, you already knew Cohen was a major.....I've met the guy on multiple occasions and it takes about 3 seconds for anybody with a modicum of intelligence to puck up what he's giving off.

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Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

You realize that Washington is awash in this sort of sleazball, right? Every lobbyist that sells their influence can be painted with the same brush. But come on, you already knew Cohen was a major.....I've met the guy on multiple occasions and it takes about 3 seconds for anybody with a modicum of intelligence to puck up what he's giving off.

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm waiting for is evidence of money flowing from Cohen to a Trump company. There is no way Cohen got to keep all that cash.

Of course Trump knew and must have a cut from the money. Can you imagine Cohen doing it in Trump’s name deceptively without his knowledge and Trump not suing Cohen for defaming him? A conman whose buisness model has been selling his name will not keep quiet if he knew nothing about Cohen’s pay-for-play scheme on his name.

I can easily imagine it. That's what Flynn and Manafort did, too.

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Anonymous wrote:What I'm waiting for is evidence of money flowing from Cohen to a Trump company. There is no way Cohen got to keep all that cash.

Of course Trump knew and must have a cut from the money. Can you imagine Cohen doing it in Trump’s name deceptively without his knowledge and Trump not suing Cohen for defaming him? A conman whose buisness model has been selling his name will not keep quiet if he knew nothing about Cohen’s pay-for-play scheme on his name.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Accusations and innuendo aren’t facts.

How about some proof Trump was involved?

It’s hard to have an opinion on anything without clarity.

Thank you - I was just about to post this. All this outrage over pure speculation. We see this again and again on DCUM. It must be exhausting.

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Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

What crime are you alleging was committed by Trump?

Bribery, which is actually and specifically outlined in the US Constitution as an impeachable offense.

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Anonymous wrote:but but .. Hilllary ... Ukraine... Foundation.. uh..... something something.... oh.. her husband..her emails.

Oh dang, Trump had those issues, too.

Is Hillary still alive? She didn't look very good toward the end of her last failed run for the Presidency.

Anonymous wrote:Accusations and innuendo aren’t facts.

How about some proof Trump was involved?

It’s hard to have an opinion on anything without clarity.