Anonymous
10/27/2021 11:06
Subject: Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:They’re just like Deal kids. MS kids fight.
I have a lot of teacher friends in other school systems. They do not have brawls on the steps of the school. If a few kids even get in a scuffle it's a gigantic scandal. This behavior is simply not tolerated elsewhere.
Anonymous
10/27/2021 10:49
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Kids fight like that in Upper NW? Where are these brawling kids coming from at Deal?
At Hobson, students from several wards, 5, 7 and 8, still outnumber Ward 6 students. Really.
At Hobson, students from several wards, 5, 7 and 8, still outnumber Ward 6 students. Really.
Anonymous
10/27/2021 08:52
Subject: Another Stuart Hobson brawl
They’re just like Deal kids. MS kids fight.
Anonymous
10/27/2021 07:37
Subject: Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Another S-H brawl?
Yes, an appalling brawl. I saw it when driving by. I even drove around the block to see if the fight had been broken up 5 minutes later. It hadn't - it had grown. At least ten kids were slugging one another, with four dozen watching, cheering, jeering. Pretty bad.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 17:49
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same old. There have been issues with SH kids brawling within a block of the school from time to time for decades. No SH administration ever gets a handle on the situation.
Yes, but the rowdiness rises and falls over time. I live around the corner. The brawling essentially stopped under the pre Covid head, the IB families-minded young guy who left for grad school at Harvard. Apparently, he put an elaborate system in place to head off bad behavior outside the school and made it work. Hobson kids all but stopped appearing in our back alley to hoop, holler, fight and toss trash from their snacks around. He must have read them the riot act. Last year school year, after he'd left, was also quiet, due to DL. Now we're seeing the brawling again. I saw the fight, too. Argh.
Not really. My kid said previous principal's authority ended at doorstep and kids had free reign off school grounds. Current principal well liked and respected by parents, teachers and students. Stuff like this is annoying but normal MS behavior. See hyperventilating over similar Deal incidents on separate thread.
It’s really not “normal” MS behavior. There are plenty of middle schools that do not have this type of behavior.
Apparently it is becoming more normal this year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/10/26/schools-violence-teachers-guns-fights/
A rising frequency does not make it normal behavior. Don't normalize violence. Every child present has a little more trauma in their lives now. The more they see it, do, or suffer from it, the worse their life outcomes tend to be. The damage goes far beyond the cuts and bruises.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 17:39
Subject: Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Another S-H brawl?
Anonymous
10/26/2021 17:24
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Behavioral issues, maybe. Brawling on a sidewalk on E St. for 20 mins before hundreds of passers by on the street and in passing cars, no.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 15:53
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same old. There have been issues with SH kids brawling within a block of the school from time to time for decades. No SH administration ever gets a handle on the situation.
Yes, but the rowdiness rises and falls over time. I live around the corner. The brawling essentially stopped under the pre Covid head, the IB families-minded young guy who left for grad school at Harvard. Apparently, he put an elaborate system in place to head off bad behavior outside the school and made it work. Hobson kids all but stopped appearing in our back alley to hoop, holler, fight and toss trash from their snacks around. He must have read them the riot act. Last year school year, after he'd left, was also quiet, due to DL. Now we're seeing the brawling again. I saw the fight, too. Argh.
Not really. My kid said previous principal's authority ended at doorstep and kids had free reign off school grounds. Current principal well liked and respected by parents, teachers and students. Stuff like this is annoying but normal MS behavior. See hyperventilating over similar Deal incidents on separate thread.
It’s really not “normal” MS behavior. There are plenty of middle schools that do not have this type of behavior.
Apparently it is becoming more normal this year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/10/26/schools-violence-teachers-guns-fights/
+1. Ask any DCPS middle school or high school principal if behavior issues have been more frequent this year, coming out of an 18-month pandemic.
I bet you the vast majority say yes.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 14:37
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same old. There have been issues with SH kids brawling within a block of the school from time to time for decades. No SH administration ever gets a handle on the situation.
Yes, but the rowdiness rises and falls over time. I live around the corner. The brawling essentially stopped under the pre Covid head, the IB families-minded young guy who left for grad school at Harvard. Apparently, he put an elaborate system in place to head off bad behavior outside the school and made it work. Hobson kids all but stopped appearing in our back alley to hoop, holler, fight and toss trash from their snacks around. He must have read them the riot act. Last year school year, after he'd left, was also quiet, due to DL. Now we're seeing the brawling again. I saw the fight, too. Argh.
Not really. My kid said previous principal's authority ended at doorstep and kids had free reign off school grounds. Current principal well liked and respected by parents, teachers and students. Stuff like this is annoying but normal MS behavior. See hyperventilating over similar Deal incidents on separate thread.
It’s really not “normal” MS behavior. There are plenty of middle schools that do not have this type of behavior.
Apparently it is becoming more normal this year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/10/26/schools-violence-teachers-guns-fights/
Anonymous
10/26/2021 13:51
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same old. There have been issues with SH kids brawling within a block of the school from time to time for decades. No SH administration ever gets a handle on the situation.
Yes, but the rowdiness rises and falls over time. I live around the corner. The brawling essentially stopped under the pre Covid head, the IB families-minded young guy who left for grad school at Harvard. Apparently, he put an elaborate system in place to head off bad behavior outside the school and made it work. Hobson kids all but stopped appearing in our back alley to hoop, holler, fight and toss trash from their snacks around. He must have read them the riot act. Last year school year, after he'd left, was also quiet, due to DL. Now we're seeing the brawling again. I saw the fight, too. Argh.
Not really. My kid said previous principal's authority ended at doorstep and kids had free reign off school grounds. Current principal well liked and respected by parents, teachers and students. Stuff like this is annoying but normal MS behavior. See hyperventilating over similar Deal incidents on separate thread.
It’s really not “normal” MS behavior. There are plenty of middle schools that do not have this type of behavior.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 13:35
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same old. There have been issues with SH kids brawling within a block of the school from time to time for decades. No SH administration ever gets a handle on the situation.
Yes, but the rowdiness rises and falls over time. I live around the corner. The brawling essentially stopped under the pre Covid head, the IB families-minded young guy who left for grad school at Harvard. Apparently, he put an elaborate system in place to head off bad behavior outside the school and made it work. Hobson kids all but stopped appearing in our back alley to hoop, holler, fight and toss trash from their snacks around. He must have read them the riot act. Last year school year, after he'd left, was also quiet, due to DL. Now we're seeing the brawling again. I saw the fight, too. Argh.
Not really. My kid said previous principal's authority ended at doorstep and kids had free reign off school grounds. Current principal well liked and respected by parents, teachers and students. Stuff like this is annoying but normal MS behavior. See hyperventilating over similar Deal incidents on separate thread.
Maybe your kid's right about the previous head. We've lived across E St. from the school for more than 15 years, but don't know what goes on inside the building. I can tell you that I observed fewer brawls within a block of the school under the previous principle than before he was in charge. Before he arrived, kids not only fought outside the building occasionally, but were known to be arrested on school grounds in the public eye.
The "annoying MS behavior" you describe just isn't good PR for SH with IB families. After all the rowdiness I've seen on the part of SH kids over the years, I won't send my kids, who are in the upper grades at a Hill DCPS ES. We're hoping they can attend a charter or parochial school where, to our knowledge, "normal MS behavior" doesn't include brawling in public.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 13:19
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Same old. There have been issues with SH kids brawling within a block of the school from time to time for decades. No SH administration ever gets a handle on the situation.
Yes, but the rowdiness rises and falls over time. I live around the corner. The brawling essentially stopped under the pre Covid head, the IB families-minded young guy who left for grad school at Harvard. Apparently, he put an elaborate system in place to head off bad behavior outside the school and made it work. Hobson kids all but stopped appearing in our back alley to hoop, holler, fight and toss trash from their snacks around. He must have read them the riot act. Last year school year, after he'd left, was also quiet, due to DL. Now we're seeing the brawling again. I saw the fight, too. Argh.
Not really. My kid said previous principal's authority ended at doorstep and kids had free reign off school grounds. Current principal well liked and respected by parents, teachers and students. Stuff like this is annoying but normal MS behavior. See hyperventilating over similar Deal incidents on separate thread.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 11:31
Subject: Re:Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Same old. There have been issues with SH kids brawling within a block of the school from time to time for decades. No SH administration ever gets a handle on the situation.
Yes, but the rowdiness rises and falls over time. I live around the corner. The brawling essentially stopped under the pre Covid head, the IB families-minded young guy who left for grad school at Harvard. Apparently, he put an elaborate system in place to head off bad behavior outside the school and made it work. Hobson kids all but stopped appearing in our back alley to hoop, holler, fight and toss trash from their snacks around. He must have read them the riot act. Last year school year, after he'd left, was also quiet, due to DL. Now we're seeing the brawling again. I saw the fight, too. Argh.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 09:23
Subject: Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Did not want to start a new thread but seeing a lot of Stuart Hobson behavior problems again in the neighborhood.
Really? Like what and where?
I live on the block next to the school and must be missing what is happening.
I have been seeing SH kids cut thru our alley recently, but generally just seem to be passing thru - at least have not witnessed mischief as I have in the distant past....
Would love to know what is going on. I have kids almost that age and we are obviously inbounds.
Anonymous
10/26/2021 00:02
Subject: Another Stuart Hobson brawl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:After that kid got stabbed and died in Noma a few weeks ago you'd think they'd take this more seriously ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/local-digest-teenager-killed-near-noma-gallaudet-metro-was-stabbed-in-chest-dc-police-say/2018/05/02/c5cf0128-4e45-11e8-84a0-458a1aa9ac0a_story.html?utm_term=.f59d22a5e763
Tyshon Perry. The story is gutwrenching. The parents think that he was stabbed when he was trying to break up a fight.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/tyshons-dying-a-frantic-call-sent-a-dc-mother-to-her-son-stabbed-in-a-melee-but-it-was-too-late/2018/05/06/1eb30478-4fc3-11e8-af46-b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?utm_term=.3531981b78ab
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/family-of-tyshon-perry-looking-for-answers-say-teen-fatally-stabbed-was-trying-to-break-up-fight
It's a heartbreaking story.
This is so sad. This is why I would never send my kids to DC public school for middle school or high school. It’s too dangerous. We’ve never had a physical altercation at our school or with any of the students at our school for the 6 years we have been there. Kids get expelled immediately if they’re involved in any sort of physical altercation in or out of school.
What a stupid thing to write here. What "kind" of school, "public" is really of little importance here. The kids involved in the NoMa stabbing are from a charter school btw. It's a bird brain's reflex to always find a simple generalization. It probably makes you feel better that, thankfully, you have it figured out by avoiding the plague of public school, blissfully ignorant how tenuous our lives are and how much more complex tragedies are. And I pray for you that you will continue to be in luck, not to find your child run over by a car, or arrested on a college campus for smoking weed, or drawn out to see by a rip tide, or taken out by cancer, found with a needle in their arm, or rocked by sexual assault, as - if you read the news - these are all things that happen to very good people who never ever fight in school.
Well said. Thank you for helping that poster understand that, although they might have bought their way out of avoiding some of the more painful aspects of our society, they cannot buy their way out of all of life’s risks.