Anonymous
04/15/2018 10:16
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://amp.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/black-teen-misses-bus-gets-shot-at-after-asking-for-directions-in-rochester-hills?__twitter_impression=true
Teen missed the bus. His mom had taken away his phone and was at work. Dad was deployed. He decided to walk to school but got a bit lost. He did what everyone on DCUM always argues their kid can do when their phone has been taken as a punishment: he rang a doorbell to ask for help/directions and was shot at. Luckily the overzealous homeowner missed and their Ring doorbelll camera recorded the entire encounter.
I’m all for taking away their phone as punishment, but not outside of the house. They get it when they leave for school and give it back when they return home. You can even install an app that turns the smartphone into having flip phone capabilities until you enter a master password to allow it to be a smartphone again.
This is a terrible and frightening story. But what did people do before cell phones? How on earth did we all survive?
I was never told to go up to random stranger's houses and knock on their door and I think that is not a wise thing to advise a kid to do. I would have asked a passerby for directions. I'm certainly NOT excusing the individual who tried to shoot this kid, I am only saying that going onto a stranger's property like that can be a risky proposition. It's better to ask a passerby or go into a store to ask for directions.
If you are lost in a residential neighborhood at that time of the morning, there might not be a passerby. I'm pretty sure if there was a store that he knew of, he would have gone to the store. All they had to do was say through the door that they didn't know and move on. High schools start at about 8 am or earlier, what is the likelihood that a criminal would pick that time of the morning to case a house? Many people are still home at that time. I have people (including teens) knock on my door all the time, not for directions, but fundraisers, selling things....I don't open the door if I don't want to. I speak to them through the door or ignore them. I've never once shot at anyone.
Anonymous
04/15/2018 09:59
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait for the authorities to release the tape before deciding who is racist.
My bet, though is that the teen (who most likely had confrontational behavior with his mom-thus the reason his phone was taken away in the first place) was not so neutral in his body language.
Why do you assume he "most likely had confrontational behavior with his his mom?" All I have to say is at least the a-hole home owner (who likely is of your ilk) was arrested, and likely will rack up huge lawyer fees.
Anonymous
04/15/2018 06:34
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
I am not even going to watch the video, this is ridiculous! Blatant racism, kid is 14 years old! "Why are you trying to break into my house?!" I hope they get both these racists to spend the rest of their lives in jail!
Anonymous
04/15/2018 06:30
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
And this is why guns need to be taken away from just about everybody! Tell me where else people shoot at teen ringing their doorbells? I once had 4 "not so nice" middle schoolers riding my bikes over the back of my property, wonder if I was this buy what would have happened. I am against guns, 100%, in fact, best nobody has any guns.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 22:49
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Something is off did the kid skip school and try to break in to a house
Yes, because people routinely ring doorbells to make their presence known before they rob houses
Actually, yes they do, dumbass. If nobody answers the front door, then they go round the back and break in.
+1. This is a very common thing. Talk to a few cops about it. If someone answers, they try to sell them something, or they act lost. It’s pretty much the definition of casing the joint.
It’s especially dangerous for kids who are home alone and have been told to not answer the door when they don’t know the person. Then a burglary turns into a home invasion.
OK but there is zero reason to believe that this is what this kid was doing.
^ And even if he had been "casing the joint" & planning on robbing them later on & they someone were able to know this, it still wouldn't have justified shooting him as he was not physically threatening them & they were not in any immediate danger. In the unlikely event they actually had reason to believe he was planning to come back & rob them, they should have informed the police of their suspicions, not shot him.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 22:42
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Something is off did the kid skip school and try to break in to a house
Yes, because people routinely ring doorbells to make their presence known before they rob houses
Actually, yes they do, dumbass. If nobody answers the front door, then they go round the back and break in.
+1. This is a very common thing. Talk to a few cops about it. If someone answers, they try to sell them something, or they act lost. It’s pretty much the definition of casing the joint.
It’s especially dangerous for kids who are home alone and have been told to not answer the door when they don’t know the person. Then a burglary turns into a home invasion.
OK but there is zero reason to believe that this is what this kid was doing.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 22:36
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Something is off did the kid skip school and try to break in to a house
You have like zero reading comprehension. Or did you just skip the actual article altogether?
What’s not right is that a person with dark skin rang the doorbell to ask for help and two people with white skin freaked the f out and went the shoot first, ask questions later route.
Thank god for their white paranoia and that Ring doorbell because your know damn well without it that boy’s story would not have been believed and there’d be more of these ignorant type messages.
What’s even more scary to think about is how many POC this firefighter may not have worked hard to save because of their skin color because, you know, all black people are robbers and rapists and druggies in his mind.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 19:39
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Dumb conclusion. Not so long ago, NOBODY had a phone, and people didn't accidentally get shot for it.
They had payphones, and maps.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 19:34
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Something is off did the kid skip school and try to break in to a house
Yes, because people routinely ring doorbells to make their presence known before they rob houses
Actually, yes they do, dumbass. If nobody answers the front door, then they go round the back and break in.
+1. This is a very common thing. Talk to a few cops about it. If someone answers, they try to sell them something, or they act lost. It’s pretty much the definition of casing the joint.
It’s especially dangerous for kids who are home alone and have been told to not answer the door when they don’t know the person. Then a burglary turns into a home invasion.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 18:41
Subject: Re:Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
A lot of people get shot at when they ring the wrong doorbell. Contractors with the power board who have to cut trees off the lines have to call a code red when it happens, and have to return with law enforcement. A supervisor with a power board in NC was returning with a deputy to talk to a homeowner because they needed to take trees off the line and the homeowner opened fire and shot him with the officer standing next to him. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with people not wanting other people on their property.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 17:34
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Something is off did the kid skip school and try to break in to a house
Yes, because people routinely ring doorbells to make their presence known before they rob houses
Actually, yes they do, dumbass. If nobody answers the front door, then they go round the back and break in.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 17:19
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw that story, and my first reaction was not: see, the mother shouldn't have taken the teenager's phone away. My second reaction wasn't that either, or my fifth, or probably my 122nd.
Yeah. Talk about missing the point. But, hey, let's blame the mom. Instead of the ahole who shot a kid for no reason.
I agree. Yet another person who lacks critical thinking skills.
Yep. OP isn’t very smart.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 17:01
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids have survived without phones in the past. The bigger question is how did he get lost on the way to school? I use to walk to school. Never heard of anyone getting lost on the way to school. The story seems to be sketchy.
The article says he usually rode the bus and on this day he missed it.
I can totally see how a teenager would think they remembered the bus route and then make a wrong turn.
Especially at 14! !4 year old boys still have a lot of maturation to do.
No schools are easy to find. Something else was going on.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 16:37
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
My teen does not have a phone.
And I don't like the way you get "don't punish with phone confiscation" out of a horrible racist situation, which should be addressed with shaming and punishing all racists.
Anonymous
04/14/2018 15:47
Subject: Reason not to 100% take away your kid’s phone as a punishment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw that story, and my first reaction was not: see, the mother shouldn't have taken the teenager's phone away. My second reaction wasn't that either, or my fifth, or probably my 122nd.
Yeah. Talk about missing the point. But, hey, let's blame the mom. Instead of the ahole who shot a kid for no reason.
I agree. Yet another person who lacks critical thinking skills.