Anonymous wrote:The Princeton profile says 11.2% are parental legacy. The percent of first gen students is higher (17%). 53% are domestic students of color, 12% are international, and 65% come from public schools. The Princeton of today is very different from what people think of Princeton to be.

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2018/03/28/princeton-offers-admission-55-percent-class-2022-applicants

Those numbers are meaningless unless you know the applicant pool, which they conveniently will not break down. What if the legacy applicant pool is relatively small but the acceptance rate is really high. You could still land up with 11.2% legacy kids. Don't look at the output, also consider what input could have gone in to produce that output

The Princeton profile says 11.2% are parental legacy. The percent of first gen students is higher (17%). 53% are domestic students of color, 12% are international, and 65% come from public schools. The Princeton of today is very different from what people think of Princeton to be.

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2018/03/28/princeton-offers-admission-55-percent-class-2022-applicants

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Anonymous wrote:Princeton has the highest alumni giving rate of any university/college as well: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/the-short-list-college/articles/2016-10-18/10-universities-where-the-most-alumni-donate. Super satisfied alums who go out of their way to help Princeton grads, in addition to the normal HYPMS brand name. Dartmouth doesn't make the top 10. All the pros of Dartmouth are pros of Princeton, and it has more. Parchment says 91% pick Princeton and 9% pick Dartmouth between the two schools. I'd knock Dartmouth out entirely.

The annual giving trails off when alums find that their own kids get rejected.

It’s actually telling that the alumni suppprt is the strongest even though the school is super selective and turns down many alumni kids.

This is a myth. They take a lot of legacy kids. Since they don't reveal the admit rate for legacies, you can't really tell the large preference. I think legacy admit rate at these schools may be 50% or higher. Compare that to a 6% admit rate for unhooked kids and this is a massive advantage, even if the other half gets rejected.

I went to Princeton and hated the fact that exams took place AFTER the winter break. While this may seem like a minor quibble, it ruined the holidays for me for four years.

Princeton by a mile but I don't believe you are for real OP. No sane person would consider Duke over Princeton

Anonymous wrote:Also:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching

Congrats on all your choices!

The schools on these lists received the most votes from top college administrators for putting a particular focus on undergraduate teaching.

This is a nonsensical list. Given the low sample and utter ignorance of college administrators on what kind of teaching goes on at the various schools, anybody who uses this list to determine teaching quality is asking for trouble

Anonymous wrote:Would you ever choose Duke over Princeton? So that information wasn't relevant and you're starting to annoy me.

Look at the money.

If the choice is between Princeton for $70,000 and non-flagship state school for $10,000, try to find the money for Princeton.

If the choice is between Princeton for $70,000 and Duke for $10,000, and Duke is good in your areas of interest: Duke is a great school, too. And a kid who qualifies for a lot of aid from a school may get more love from the school generally than a kid who hasn't gotten much aid.

Hmm, I went to Dartmouth too. Loved it. But I'd probably tell my own child to choose Princeton if that were an option. I think either one will open doors provided you make the most of the experience, so it's not like you can go wrong either way, but if you're on the fence I'd take the less frigid climate option.

Anonymous wrote:Columbia. Hottest college in the country. Everyone wants to go to college in NYC.

So why is it that Princeton has the highest yield consistently and that cross-admits between the two schools pick Princeton 77% of the time?

Anonymous wrote:Unless things have changed WWS is the only undergraduate major at Princeton that requires an application and turns down applicants. Just about every Woody Woo senior in my class who wanted to go to law school ended up at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, or Chicago.

That did change around 7-10 years ago. Now anyone can choose to be WWS.

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Anonymous wrote:Princeton has the highest alumni giving rate of any university/college as well: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/the-short-list-college/articles/2016-10-18/10-universities-where-the-most-alumni-donate. Super satisfied alums who go out of their way to help Princeton grads, in addition to the normal HYPMS brand name. Dartmouth doesn't make the top 10. All the pros of Dartmouth are pros of Princeton, and it has more. Parchment says 91% pick Princeton and 9% pick Dartmouth between the two schools. I'd knock Dartmouth out entirely.

The annual giving trails off when alums find that their own kids get rejected.

It’s actually telling that the alumni suppprt is the strongest even though the school is super selective and turns down many alumni kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia. Hottest college in the country. Everyone wants to go to college in NYC.

A tad overly ethnic though

Racist much? I did undergrad at Columbia and grad school at Princeton (and I'm a person of color). Loved them both. You can't go wrong. Well except maybe with Dartmouth. My spouse went there--it's so cold.

Anonymous wrote:Columbia. Hottest college in the country. Everyone wants to go to college in NYC.

A tad overly ethnic though

Anonymous wrote:Princeton has the highest alumni giving rate of any university/college as well: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/the-short-list-college/articles/2016-10-18/10-universities-where-the-most-alumni-donate. Super satisfied alums who go out of their way to help Princeton grads, in addition to the normal HYPMS brand name. Dartmouth doesn't make the top 10. All the pros of Dartmouth are pros of Princeton, and it has more. Parchment says 91% pick Princeton and 9% pick Dartmouth between the two schools. I'd knock Dartmouth out entirely.

The annual giving trails off when alums find that their own kids get rejected.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia. Hottest college in the country. Everyone wants to go to college in NYC.

Ditto.

Sparky, go to Columbia. Live the dream I could never make happen.

I’d go with Princeton and let PP watch her Gossip Girl reruns.