Anonymous
04/02/2018 16:07
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:135 NNAT 126 coGat 13 GBRS chances of getting in the first round?
I would say yes.
Thank you!
What are the chances when those scores are reversed, and the CoGat is the higher of the two? I'm unclear as to how these things are weighted.
If one of the test scores is above cut off and gbrs is decent, you’re most likely in.
If the higher score is cogat, then your chance is greater than the nnat being higher than cogat.
I know the GBRS score is on a 16 scale, but what goes into it? I saw on another thread that there was something about Ability to Learn and one other thing.
The following four categories are assessed, with the maximum of a score of 4 (consistently) for each:
1. Exceptional Ability to Learn
Exhibits exceptional memory
Demonstrates in-depth knowledge
Displays persistent, intense focus on one or more topics
Is highly reflective and/or sensitive to his/her environment
Learns and adapts readily to new cultures
Learns quickly and easily
Acquires language at a rapid pace
Learns skills independently and makes connections without formal instruction
2. Exceptional Application of Knowledge
Demonstrates highly developed reasoning
Employs complex problem-solving strategies
Uses and interprets advanced symbol systems in academics, visual arts, and/or performing arts Understands, applies, transfers abstract concepts
Uses technology in advanced applications
Acts as an interpreter, translator, and/or facilitator to help others
Makes advanced connections and transfers learning to other subjects, situations, cultures Communicates learned concepts through role playing and/or detailed artwork
3. Exceptional Creative/Productive Thinking
Sees the familiar in unusual ways / Does not conform to typical ways of thinking or perceiving Is highly creative and/or inventive
Demonstrates unusual fluency and flexibility in thinking and problem-solving
Expresses ideas, feelings, experiences, and/or beliefs in original ways
Displays keen sense of humor
Is highly curious
Generates new ideas, new uses, new solutions easily Perceives and manipulates patterns, colors, and/or symbols
4. Exceptional Motivation to Succeed
Demonstrates ability to lead large and/or small groups
Meets exceptional personal and/or academic challenges
Explores, researches, questions topics, ideas, issues independently
Is poised with adults and engages them in adult conversations
Exhibits a strong sense of loyalty and responsibility
Demonstrates exceptional ability to adapt to new experiences
Strives to achieve high standards especially in areas of strength and/or interest Shows initiative, self-direction, and/or high level of confidence
Anonymous
04/02/2018 16:05
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:135 NNAT 126 coGat 13 GBRS chances of getting in the first round?
I would say yes.
Thank you!
What are the chances when those scores are reversed, and the CoGat is the higher of the two? I'm unclear as to how these things are weighted.
If one of the test scores is above cut off and gbrs is decent, you’re most likely in.
If the higher score is cogat, then your chance is greater than the nnat being higher than cogat.
I know the GBRS score is on a 16 scale, but what goes into it? I saw on another thread that there was something about Ability to Learn and one other thing.
Google is our friend. Use it. You can then read the entire thing rather than having someone else summarize.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 15:54
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:135 NNAT 126 coGat 13 GBRS chances of getting in the first round?
I would say yes.
Thank you!
What are the chances when those scores are reversed, and the CoGat is the higher of the two? I'm unclear as to how these things are weighted.
If one of the test scores is above cut off and gbrs is decent, you’re most likely in.
If the higher score is cogat, then your chance is greater than the nnat being higher than cogat.
I know the GBRS score is on a 16 scale, but what goes into it? I saw on another thread that there was something about Ability to Learn and one other thing.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 13:09
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:135 NNAT 126 coGat 13 GBRS chances of getting in the first round?
I would say yes.
Thank you!
What are the chances when those scores are reversed, and the CoGat is the higher of the two? I'm unclear as to how these things are weighted.
If one of the test scores is above cut off and gbrs is decent, you’re most likely in.
If the higher score is cogat, then your chance is greater than the nnat being higher than cogat.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 12:51
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:135 NNAT 126 coGat 13 GBRS chances of getting in the first round?
I would say yes.
Thank you!
What are the chances when those scores are reversed, and the CoGat is the higher of the two? I'm unclear as to how these things are weighted.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 10:49
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Remaining should be either selected based on NNAT or Cogat alone with average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Keep in mind that you don't need to be in-pool on both tests to be considered "in-pool". Many of the kids who are in-pool but rejected are in-pool on only the NNAT with a much lower CogAT. If they are in-pool on both tests but still get rejected, then generally the GBRS is very, very low.
Here is last year's admissions thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/633738.page
And here is the 2016 thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/549254.page
Thanks for posting the links. Good insight and confusing at the same time. Some scores made no sense to be rejected while others got accepted without either scores meeting the cut off or quite lower than the cut off or a strong GBRS. Now, I’m not sure what to expect for my child.
Keep in mind that there is nothing to stop some troll from posting fake scores with an unlikely result in either direction. I am convinced some people do that to stir people up.
I see it on last year’s admission thread. Nnat 140 and cogat 135 got rejected and that person didn’t post a gbrs. Confused about the process now.
It could have been a troll as the previous poster commented. Can’t take all these posts as 100% real unfortunately.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 10:42
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Remaining should be either selected based on NNAT or Cogat alone with average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Keep in mind that you don't need to be in-pool on both tests to be considered "in-pool". Many of the kids who are in-pool but rejected are in-pool on only the NNAT with a much lower CogAT. If they are in-pool on both tests but still get rejected, then generally the GBRS is very, very low.
Here is last year's admissions thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/633738.page
And here is the 2016 thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/549254.page
Thanks for posting the links. Good insight and confusing at the same time. Some scores made no sense to be rejected while others got accepted without either scores meeting the cut off or quite lower than the cut off or a strong GBRS. Now, I’m not sure what to expect for my child.
Keep in mind that there is nothing to stop some troll from posting fake scores with an unlikely result in either direction. I am convinced some people do that to stir people up.
I see it on last year’s admission thread. Nnat 140 and cogat 135 got rejected and that person didn’t post a gbrs. Confused about the process now.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 10:32
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Remaining should be either selected based on NNAT or Cogat alone with average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Keep in mind that you don't need to be in-pool on both tests to be considered "in-pool". Many of the kids who are in-pool but rejected are in-pool on only the NNAT with a much lower CogAT. If they are in-pool on both tests but still get rejected, then generally the GBRS is very, very low.
Here is last year's admissions thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/633738.page
And here is the 2016 thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/549254.page
Thanks for posting the links. Good insight and confusing at the same time. Some scores made no sense to be rejected while others got accepted without either scores meeting the cut off or quite lower than the cut off or a strong GBRS. Now, I’m not sure what to expect for my child.
Keep in mind that there is nothing to stop some troll from posting fake scores with an unlikely result in either direction. I am convinced some people do that to stir people up.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 10:30
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:135 NNAT 126 coGat 13 GBRS chances of getting in the first round?
I would say yes.
Thank you!
Anonymous
04/02/2018 09:37
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Remaining should be either selected based on NNAT or Cogat alone with average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Keep in mind that you don't need to be in-pool on both tests to be considered "in-pool". Many of the kids who are in-pool but rejected are in-pool on only the NNAT with a much lower CogAT. If they are in-pool on both tests but still get rejected, then generally the GBRS is very, very low.
Here is last year's admissions thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/633738.page
And here is the 2016 thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/549254.page
Thanks for posting the links. Good insight and confusing at the same time. Some scores made no sense to be rejected while others got accepted without either scores meeting the cut off or quite lower than the cut off or a strong GBRS. Now, I’m not sure what to expect for my child.
Aaaah, thank you for finding those threads! I’m the one who looked yesterday and had no luck.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 09:27
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Remaining should be either selected based on NNAT or Cogat alone with average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Keep in mind that you don't need to be in-pool on both tests to be considered "in-pool". Many of the kids who are in-pool but rejected are in-pool on only the NNAT with a much lower CogAT. If they are in-pool on both tests but still get rejected, then generally the GBRS is very, very low.
Here is last year's admissions thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/633738.page
And here is the 2016 thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/549254.page
Thanks for posting the links. Good insight and confusing at the same time. Some scores made no sense to be rejected while others got accepted without either scores meeting the cut off or quite lower than the cut off or a strong GBRS. Now, I’m not sure what to expect for my child.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 08:31
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Remaining should be either selected based on NNAT or Cogat alone with average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Keep in mind that you don't need to be in-pool on both tests to be considered "in-pool". Many of the kids who are in-pool but rejected are in-pool on only the NNAT with a much lower CogAT. If they are in-pool on both tests but still get rejected, then generally the GBRS is very, very low.
Here is last year's admissions thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/633738.page
And here is the 2016 thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/549254.page
Anonymous
04/02/2018 00:10
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NNAT 135 COGAT 134 GBRS unknown.
Changes?
NNAT 135 COGAT 134 GBRS unknown.
Chances?
My child has similar scores, slightly above cut off. But I don’t know gbrs either. If gbrs is not too high, what’s my chance?
I'm curious - On this board, we don't really talk about kids with above cut off score on both NNAT and COGAT too often. Anyone had to do an appeals or didn't make it at all?
NP. My kid was in second grade last year so I paid a bit more attention when people were posting scores, but there were more than a few kids with scores above the cutoff who didn't get in first round. I have no idea if it was a weird year or what, but several well-versed posters last year were really baffled at some of the rejected (and accepted) scores.
So kids are in the pool based on both test scores can get rejected?
PP. It happened last year, at least if memory serves. I'm not sure if those kids got in on appeal.
I wonder why they didn't make it first round. I would think low GBRS? I mean how low can it be to reject those kids?
PP again, the one who paid more attention last year. I tried to find last year's thread re: this and I'm not having much luck :/. I would suspect it had to do with low-ish grades on report cards and/or low GBRS. I do remember someone posting that 2/3 of kids who are in-pool based on scores were accepted in past years, and that seemed weird to me. Again, though, I would think a kid with in-pool scores who got rejected would have a good shot at acceptance with an appeal, as long as their report cards weren't horrible.
That makes sense. Thank you!!
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Thos who were in-pool but rejected are probaly in-pool due to above cut-off NNAT or Cogat with average or below average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Anonymous
04/02/2018 00:09
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NNAT 135 COGAT 134 GBRS unknown.
Changes?
NNAT 135 COGAT 134 GBRS unknown.
Chances?
My child has similar scores, slightly above cut off. But I don’t know gbrs either. If gbrs is not too high, what’s my chance?
I'm curious - On this board, we don't really talk about kids with above cut off score on both NNAT and COGAT too often. Anyone had to do an appeals or didn't make it at all?
NP. My kid was in second grade last year so I paid a bit more attention when people were posting scores, but there were more than a few kids with scores above the cutoff who didn't get in first round. I have no idea if it was a weird year or what, but several well-versed posters last year were really baffled at some of the rejected (and accepted) scores.
So kids are in the pool based on both test scores can get rejected?
PP. It happened last year, at least if memory serves. I'm not sure if those kids got in on appeal.
I wonder why they didn't make it first round. I would think low GBRS? I mean how low can it be to reject those kids?
PP again, the one who paid more attention last year. I tried to find last year's thread re: this and I'm not having much luck :/. I would suspect it had to do with low-ish grades on report cards and/or low GBRS. I do remember someone posting that 2/3 of kids who are in-pool based on scores were accepted in past years, and that seemed weird to me. Again, though, I would think a kid with in-pool scores who got rejected would have a good shot at acceptance with an appeal, as long as their report cards weren't horrible.
That makes sense. Thank you!!
Cogat/NNAt/GBRS all should support the admission to AAP in first round. This is probably the reason only 66% of the kids who were in-pool gets accepted in first round. Remaining should be either selected based on NNAT or Cogat alone with average GBRS.
During the appeal process many more gets admitted due to WISC and/or additional excellent samples.
Anonymous
04/01/2018 22:24
Subject: Re:Chances? Your guesses?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NNAT 135 COGAT 134 GBRS unknown.
Changes?
NNAT 135 COGAT 134 GBRS unknown.
Chances?
My child has similar scores, slightly above cut off. But I don’t know gbrs either. If gbrs is not too high, what’s my chance?
I'm curious - On this board, we don't really talk about kids with above cut off score on both NNAT and COGAT too often. Anyone had to do an appeals or didn't make it at all?
NP. My kid was in second grade last year so I paid a bit more attention when people were posting scores, but there were more than a few kids with scores above the cutoff who didn't get in first round. I have no idea if it was a weird year or what, but several well-versed posters last year were really baffled at some of the rejected (and accepted) scores.
So kids are in the pool based on both test scores can get rejected?
PP. It happened last year, at least if memory serves. I'm not sure if those kids got in on appeal.
I wonder why they didn't make it first round. I would think low GBRS? I mean how low can it be to reject those kids?
PP again, the one who paid more attention last year. I tried to find last year's thread re: this and I'm not having much luck :/. I would suspect it had to do with low-ish grades on report cards and/or low GBRS. I do remember someone posting that 2/3 of kids who are in-pool based on scores were accepted in past years, and that seemed weird to me. Again, though, I would think a kid with in-pool scores who got rejected would have a good shot at acceptance with an appeal, as long as their report cards weren't horrible.
That makes sense. Thank you!!