Anonymous
Post 03/23/2018 09:52     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With Key and Stoddert continuing to expand into Hardy, clearly there must also be a 7-10 year plan to prevent Wilson from expanding into trailers in front of Tenley Whole Foods. What're they gonna do?


the Hardy dynamic is more complex. It's a combo of the feeder kids taking a higher proportion of the school as well as plans to expand total enrollment (currently 375ish students, capacity is around IF they get rid of Fillmore). So the total max increase for Wilson dynamics is 125 potential.


opps - meant to say max capacity around 500. (if they don't install trailers...)


Should be more/equally concerned that next year, they move of the Eaton kids to Hardy from Deal is ostensibly to reduce overcrowding at Deal - but they are likely to keep filling Deal to over capacity plus still having the Hardy #s.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2018 09:50     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With Key and Stoddert continuing to expand into Hardy, clearly there must also be a 7-10 year plan to prevent Wilson from expanding into trailers in front of Tenley Whole Foods. What're they gonna do?


the Hardy dynamic is more complex. It's a combo of the feeder kids taking a higher proportion of the school as well as plans to expand total enrollment (currently 375ish students, capacity is around IF they get rid of Fillmore). So the total max increase for Wilson dynamics is 125 potential.


opps - meant to say max capacity around 500. (if they don't install trailers...)
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2018 09:49     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:With Key and Stoddert continuing to expand into Hardy, clearly there must also be a 7-10 year plan to prevent Wilson from expanding into trailers in front of Tenley Whole Foods. What're they gonna do?


the Hardy dynamic is more complex. It's a combo of the feeder kids taking a higher proportion of the school as well as plans to expand total enrollment (currently 375ish students, capacity is around IF they get rid of Fillmore). So the total max increase for Wilson dynamics is 125 potential.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2018 09:29     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:With Key and Stoddert continuing to expand into Hardy, clearly there must also be a 7-10 year plan to prevent Wilson from expanding into trailers in front of Tenley Whole Foods. What're they gonna do?


Sorry, you must be new to DCPS
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2018 09:27     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
With Key and Stoddert continuing to expand into Hardy, clearly there must also be a 7-10 year plan to prevent Wilson from expanding into trailers in front of Tenley Whole Foods. What're they gonna do?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 22:31     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Key has over 400 in a building built for 300. On a postage stamp of a site.

Hey, isnt that more kids than at Ellington which has 30x as much space? But I digress.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 20:01     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
There are lots of enormous condo buildings IB for Stoddert.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 19:52     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for Key but with regard to Stoddert, they are busting at the seams and this should not increase students who go to Wilson...at least OOB students. Sure, you can argue that more families will move IB because of expansion. But SToddert needs the addition and for the six "demountables" to be GONE.


Good luck with that. There are almost no SFH for sale that are zoned for Stoddert.


Stoddert is in cluster 14. The Office of Planning is projecting a 65% growth in the under-18 population of cluster 14 2014-2020. Growth rate of the age 4-10 cohort is projected to be 135%. IE, double, and then a third more.

See: https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/2014%20Population%20Projections%20and%20Growth%20(between%202014%20to%202020).pdf


That must be coming from people who already live there because there is exactly one SFH for sale in the Stoddert attendance zone. There’s also one townhome.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 19:40     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for Key but with regard to Stoddert, they are busting at the seams and this should not increase students who go to Wilson...at least OOB students. Sure, you can argue that more families will move IB because of expansion. But SToddert needs the addition and for the six "demountables" to be GONE.


Good luck with that. There are almost no SFH for sale that are zoned for Stoddert.


Stoddert is in cluster 14. The Office of Planning is projecting a 65% growth in the under-18 population of cluster 14 2014-2020. Growth rate of the age 4-10 cohort is projected to be 135%. IE, double, and then a third more.

See: https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/2014%20Population%20Projections%20and%20Growth%20(between%202014%20to%202020).pdf
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 18:53     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for Key but with regard to Stoddert, they are busting at the seams and this should not increase students who go to Wilson...at least OOB students. Sure, you can argue that more families will move IB because of expansion. But SToddert needs the addition and for the six "demountables" to be GONE.


Good luck with that. There are almost no SFH for sale that are zoned for Stoddert.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 16:30     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.


Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.


Then they're going to have to manage having their kid be one of 2000 students at Wilson. Bancroft and Oyster and Shepherd have vocal parents too. So do some of the neighborhoods zoned out of Wilson in the last boundary change.


They don't have 850 students though.


They have more than that, combined. And Lafayette's equity report shows 761 students last year, not 850.

I agree that this mayor lacks the cojones to make such a change. Maybe next year when she's a lame duck, the DME she appoints will push her towards it.


That's the point though. This is one school in one neighborhood which can make a big stink when united. It's also Brandon Todd country.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 16:27     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.


Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.


Then they're going to have to manage having their kid be one of 2000 students at Wilson. Bancroft and Oyster and Shepherd have vocal parents too. So do some of the neighborhoods zoned out of Wilson in the last boundary change.


They don't have 850 students though.


They have more than that, combined. And Lafayette's equity report shows 761 students last year, not 850.

I agree that this mayor lacks the cojones to make such a change. Maybe next year when she's a lame duck, the DME she appoints will push her towards it.


Enrollment is 810 this year, and estimated to be more than 850 next.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 16:25     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As already noted, Shepherd can feed Coolidge via the New North middle school in the DME' plans; Oyster and Bancroft can feed MacFarland and Roosevelt along with the other bilingual programs. Those three schools had 197 5th graders last year.

If DCPS wants to avoid the visual of kicking out only schools with substantial percentages of non-white students, they could also send Lafayette to Coolidge, which would add another 101 5th graders a year out of Wilson's feeder pattern and be more balanced--two schools to Coolidge and two to Roosevelt.

Adams won't be needed as a middle school if Oyster fed MacFarland. One option is to add another 200ish elementary students (Adams' capacity) to Oyster by putting grades PK-2 at Oyster and 3-5 at Adams. That would allow more kids (and potentially high-scoring kids) to go on to MacFarland and Roosevelt. It could pull a few Ward 3 families who want bilingual education away from Wilson (helping overcrowding), allow for more PK spaces in the Oyster boundary (so all the pissed-off parents of big kids could be matched by happy parents of toddlers, giving DCPS cover for the decision), and counteract the decline in OOB lottery places WoTP. No boundary adjustments would be required.


Lafayette is both ward 3&4 and the largest ES in the city with very vocal parents. The political hurdles to this plan are massive.


Then they're going to have to manage having their kid be one of 2000 students at Wilson. Bancroft and Oyster and Shepherd have vocal parents too. So do some of the neighborhoods zoned out of Wilson in the last boundary change.


They don't have 850 students though.


They have more than that, combined. And Lafayette's equity report shows 761 students last year, not 850.

I agree that this mayor lacks the cojones to make such a change. Maybe next year when she's a lame duck, the DME she appoints will push her towards it.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 16:24     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
I can't speak for Key but with regard to Stoddert, they are busting at the seams and this should not increase students who go to Wilson...at least OOB students. Sure, you can argue that more families will move IB because of expansion. But SToddert needs the addition and for the six "demountables" to be GONE.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2018 16:21     Subject: Stoddert and Key to get expansions
So happy for Stoddert. They need the addition. But selfishly, glad it will start after my child is done there.