Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:20
Subject: Re:United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Has there been any account of how this all started? Was the dog under the seat in front of them and the flight attendant insisted they pull it out and put it in the compartment? Flight attendant was wholly in the wrong for putting the dog in the overhead compartment, dog should have been under the seat or, if the family refused that, the family should have been deplaned, but I'm trying to understand why it was an issue at all.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:19
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:Well the flight attendant should be fired.
Definitely should, but I'm sure here union (ALFA) will see to it that she's merely reassigned.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:18
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Stop bringing your dogs everywhere. I blame the owner, not the airline.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:17
Subject: Re:United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any dog owner would allow some snot-nosed stewardess to cram their dog into an overhead bin. I would have grabbed her by the neck and slammed her into the floor if she tried that with my dog.
Because it's a violation of Federal law to disobey the orders of the crew. The mother probably assumed if the FA told her to do that, then the FA knew it was safe to do so. After all, the FA flies every day and would know if there is sufficient air in the overhead bin. The passenger does not know this.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:16
Subject: Re:United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
This story makes me want to puke. I'd consign the two flight attendants to one of Dante's Rings of Hell if it was up to me.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:15
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well the flight attendant should be fired. However, people really should not fly with brachycephalic dogs at all. Their shortened snouts cause all sorts of breathing problems and there’s a reason why many airlines don’t allow them to fly in cargo anymore. Flying in the cabin is safer but really, just leave them home.
If the family had been allowed to stow the carrier under a seat like they should have been able to do and as they had expected to do - this would not have been a problem.
The dog died because it was placed in a compartment with little air and the dog basically suffocated as would any other living thing creature. Poor puppy, I feel so bad for that family.
As I said, the flight attendant should be fired. That doesn't change the fact that, if you insist on owning one of these dogs and supporting the abomination that the breed standards have become, you should at least prioritize their health and not force them to fly with you. Brachycephalic dogs are already at greatly increased risk of respiratory issues, flying with them just makes that so much worse.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:14
Subject: Re:United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
I don’t understand why any dog owner would allow some snot-nosed stewardess to cram their dog into an overhead bin. I would have grabbed her by the neck and slammed her into the floor if she tried that with my dog.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 08:11
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't bring dogs on planes at all. Except for certified service animals.
The airline is at fault, but who in the heck flys with a baby, a small child AND a puppy? Stop doing this people. It's kinder to the animal and the rest of the passengers to leave it at home. If you can't afford to board the dog or have a dog sitter, you can't afford to fly and own a dog.
The family is just as at fault as the airline.
Dogs are no people.
Quit dragging them to places they do not belong, airplanes, school yards, little league ball fields, the grocery store, home depot, restaurants...
That poor flight attendant.
Poor flight attendant? She should be put in an overhead bin just like the dog.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 07:15
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:Well the flight attendant should be fired. However, people really should not fly with brachycephalic dogs at all. Their shortened snouts cause all sorts of breathing problems and there’s a reason why many airlines don’t allow them to fly in cargo anymore. Flying in the cabin is safer but really, just leave them home.
If the family had been allowed to stow the carrier under a seat like they should have been able to do and as they had expected to do - this would not have been a problem.
The dog died because it was placed in a compartment with little air and the dog basically suffocated as would any other living thing creature. Poor puppy, I feel so bad for that family.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 07:13
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:Eh – it’s a dog, whatever. Maybe stop bringing your effing “emotional support” animals everywhere.
I work at UMD and have a student who served YOU in Afghanistan, went through horrors, came back with a Purple Heart and a therapy dog who goes to class with him, and everywhere else.
Did you know therapy cats comfort the elderly in nursing homes, and patients in chemotherapy lounges?
Educate yourself.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 07:08
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Well the flight attendant should be fired. However, people really should not fly with brachycephalic dogs at all. Their shortened snouts cause all sorts of breathing problems and there’s a reason why many airlines don’t allow them to fly in cargo anymore. Flying in the cabin is safer but really, just leave them home.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 07:04
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Animals smaller than a certain size are allowed in the cabin, under the seat, on certain airlines around the world.
Animals are not allowed in overhead containers.
The attendant should have known this and I hope she will be disciplined.
The airline is legally 100% at fault here.
In a few decades, animals will cease to be considered "property", just like humans ceased to be considered another human's "property" (slaves, wives and children). There will be stricter laws on animal cruelty as a result.
I hope that flight attendant is fired. What other basic rules does she misunderstand? Next time, it could be a human life.
Sorry, I have no sympathy for this type of "mistake". Especially if she is now claiming that she didn't know that a dog was inside the carrier. Who the hell brings an empty pet carrier onto a plane?
She is lying. We all know this.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 07:04
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't bring dogs on planes at all. Except for certified service animals.
The airline is at fault, but who in the heck flys with a baby, a small child AND a puppy? Stop doing this people. It's kinder to the animal and the rest of the passengers to leave it at home. If you can't afford to board the dog or have a dog sitter, you can't afford to fly and own a dog.
The family is just as at fault as the airline.
Dogs are no people.
Quit dragging them to places they do not belong, airplanes, school yards, little league ball fields, the grocery store, home depot, restaurants...
That poor flight attendant.
What? That flight attendant is awful and deserves to be fired.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 07:02
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Ban animals from planes. Simple.and much healthier for those with pet allergies.
Anonymous
03/14/2018 06:58
Subject: United forces woman to put puppy in overhead bid, where it dies during flight
Anonymous wrote:
Animals smaller than a certain size are allowed in the cabin, under the seat, on certain airlines around the world.
Animals are not allowed in overhead containers.
The attendant should have known this and I hope she will be disciplined.
The airline is legally 100% at fault here.
In a few decades, animals will cease to be considered "property", just like humans ceased to be considered another human's "property" (slaves, wives and children). There will be stricter laws on animal cruelty as a result.
I hope that flight attendant is fired. What other basic rules does she misunderstand? Next time, it could be a human life.
Sorry, I have no sympathy for this type of "mistake". Especially if she is now claiming that she didn't know that a dog was inside the carrier. Who the hell brings an empty pet carrier onto a plane?