Anonymous
Post 03/12/2018 11:41     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Horses, breeding and eventing, are the mark of the aristocracy. The Queen's corgis are a little fancy extra because she already has horses.



LOL, we have horses and I will try to remember to act "aristocratic" the next time I am mucking stalls or slinging bales of hay. Does anyone have a gaggle of corgis I can borrow???


I know, right? Anyone who's ever had horses knows it ain't all that glamorous!
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2018 10:37     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Horses, breeding and eventing, are the mark of the aristocracy. The Queen's corgis are a little fancy extra because she already has horses.



LOL, we have horses and I will try to remember to act "aristocratic" the next time I am mucking stalls or slinging bales of hay. Does anyone have a gaggle of corgis I can borrow???
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2018 09:15     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pitbulls are definitely the realm of a few groups. Inner city (guard my drugs), lower rural (fighting), and certain liberal educated people who feel sorry for them and their bad rap.

Pitbulls are ubiquitous in my hipster, artsy neighborhood.


Decades ago shelters had dogs that were part lab who got with the shepherd next door etc. The lab and the beagle etc. There wasn't as high a rate of getting dogs fixed. Poodles were a status symbol [cost of maitenance] and people hoped for good purpose bred dogs and mixes.

I know several people who never paid for a dog at breeder and have had multiple dogs but after recent multi-state searches ended up at breeders because of the pit or mix proliferation. Dogs are creatures of nature first then nurture.

Cavaliers are small spaniels-as small as you can go to get a spaniel temperment. Thats why people like them and you can groom them yourself.

Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 21:23     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:Anything Doodle screams ‘new money’ to me.


Really? Anything Doodle screams “dog allergy in the family” to me.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 21:02     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:Standard poodle. I think it's the most expensive dog to keep well groomed.


Ha! I had a standard poodle and now I have a miniature poodle. You are correct that they are very expensive to groom. However we are not rich. We just have dog allergies in our house. And poodles are the smartest dogs ever.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 20:56     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
I think its a strange question, given the popularity of pets in this country, across the board.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 19:25     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Pitt b7lls= college educated millennial hipster.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 19:22     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sigh. No.

Horses, breeding and eventing, are the mark of the aristocracy. The Queen's corgis are a little fancy extra because she already has horses.

Dogs are the mark of the middle class. Historically they came into popularity as pets because the wealthy farmers and factory owners wanted success symbols that could fit into their homes, since they could not afford horses and the maintenance that went with them.

There is no upper or lower middle class when you consider that it's all just a grade above the working class and below the aristocracy.

Now if you delve into who owns which dogs, you get the crunchy left-leaning pseudo-educated who swear by shelter mutts and believe breeders are puppy mills, and the saner people who hold a particular breed in their heart. It doesn't matter which breed, because see above.




Interesting word salad.

I bet you have a set of weimaraners.


I had pegged pp as a pit bull person. Speaking of “pseudo-educated,” whatever that means, of course the middle class in past centuries had horses, because it was the only way to go long distances. You couldn’t be a “wealthy farmer” without horse to pull your plow, take your stuff to market and the rest.



so wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_domestic_dog


Pretty much everything in that PPs weird diatribe is complete B.S. and not connected to reality.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 15:11     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sigh. No.

Horses, breeding and eventing, are the mark of the aristocracy. The Queen's corgis are a little fancy extra because she already has horses.

Dogs are the mark of the middle class. Historically they came into popularity as pets because the wealthy farmers and factory owners wanted success symbols that could fit into their homes, since they could not afford horses and the maintenance that went with them.

There is no upper or lower middle class when you consider that it's all just a grade above the working class and below the aristocracy.

Now if you delve into who owns which dogs, you get the crunchy left-leaning pseudo-educated who swear by shelter mutts and believe breeders are puppy mills, and the saner people who hold a particular breed in their heart. It doesn't matter which breed, because see above.




Interesting word salad.

I bet you have a set of weimaraners.


I had pegged pp as a pit bull person. Speaking of “pseudo-educated,” whatever that means, of course the middle class in past centuries had horses, because it was the only way to go long distances. You couldn’t be a “wealthy farmer” without horse to pull your plow, take your stuff to market and the rest.



so wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_domestic_dog
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 14:16     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cavalier King Charles dogs are always a favorite among my blue blooded, waspy, old money friends.


This is our beloved pooch - but we are new money Jews. So much for doggy stereotypes



Our dog too. And our HHI is $140,000 which is poor by DCUM standards.


Same here too, but we're UMC atheists.


We adore our rescue Cavalier and ee are MC Irish...my grandmother was literally an Irish maid.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 12:11     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cavalier King Charles dogs are always a favorite among my blue blooded, waspy, old money friends.


This is our beloved pooch - but we are new money Jews. So much for doggy stereotypes



Our dog too. And our HHI is $140,000 which is poor by DCUM standards.


Same here too, but we're UMC atheists.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2018 12:05     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anything Doodle screams ‘new money’ to me.


All American money is new money. Pretending otherwise is....pretentious.


Off topic. Move on or I will just start to report your posts.


Different poster here. You sound like a really pleasant woman. Do you adopt the same school-marmish tone with your husband, or does he take a firm hand with you which requires you to vent online?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2018 15:21     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sigh. No.

Horses, breeding and eventing, are the mark of the aristocracy. The Queen's corgis are a little fancy extra because she already has horses.

Dogs are the mark of the middle class. Historically they came into popularity as pets because the wealthy farmers and factory owners wanted success symbols that could fit into their homes, since they could not afford horses and the maintenance that went with them.

There is no upper or lower middle class when you consider that it's all just a grade above the working class and below the aristocracy.

Now if you delve into who owns which dogs, you get the crunchy left-leaning pseudo-educated who swear by shelter mutts and believe breeders are puppy mills, and the saner people who hold a particular breed in their heart. It doesn't matter which breed, because see above.




Interesting word salad.

I bet you have a set of weimaraners.


I had pegged pp as a pit bull person. Speaking of “pseudo-educated,” whatever that means, of course the middle class in past centuries had horses, because it was the only way to go long distances. You couldn’t be a “wealthy farmer” without horse to pull your plow, take your stuff to market and the rest.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2018 22:31     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Anonymous wrote:
Sigh. No.

Horses, breeding and eventing, are the mark of the aristocracy. The Queen's corgis are a little fancy extra because she already has horses.

Dogs are the mark of the middle class. Historically they came into popularity as pets because the wealthy farmers and factory owners wanted success symbols that could fit into their homes, since they could not afford horses and the maintenance that went with them.

There is no upper or lower middle class when you consider that it's all just a grade above the working class and below the aristocracy.

Now if you delve into who owns which dogs, you get the crunchy left-leaning pseudo-educated who swear by shelter mutts and believe breeders are puppy mills, and the saner people who hold a particular breed in their heart. It doesn't matter which breed, because see above.




If you look at breeding dogs from an ethical standpoint it doesn't hold up at all...except for dogs that do specific work like Bloodhounds for tracking or Border collies for herding sheep etc.

But just to have a breed of dog because you "love the breed" is the logc of a child. How many times has my 4 yo said to me he just wants things because he just wants it and loves it.

Ok but does dog breeding do harm? I would argue yes b.c it requires inbreeding and produces less healthy dogs with shorter life spans.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2018 21:42     Subject: Dogs as a class marker
Yeah, dogs are expensive now. It used to be that you just got one from some neighbor who was "backyard breeding,"and let it wander the neighborhood if you were out during the day. And if you got sick, you just basically put it to sleep -- no one gave their dog radiation or complicated surgeries. Even kennels were cheaper, although they were probably terrible. We didn't know anything about genetic testing, leash laws, crate training, doggie play groups, etc. I think it's really hard to own a dog now unless you are UMC or rich.