Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 18:10     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:"Freshmen students are required to live on campus in our modern residential halls, which feature single, double, triple, and quad rooms, as well as suite-style options."


Yes, except for new, incoming freshman who live with parents in the listed counties. They even use this fact in their marketing materials!



https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption

New, incoming Fall Semester Freshmen students who believe they qualify for a waiver and want/need to live off campus can submit an exemption request online via eLiving. Log in with your G number; your password is your birth date (MMDDYYYY).

Exemptions will be accepted for students who will be above the age of 20 by the start of Fall 2018 or who have close residency to campus with a parent or legal guardian. The residence must be within the counties of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William, or Loudoun.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 13:12     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
"Freshmen students are required to live on campus in our modern residential halls, which feature single, double, triple, and quad rooms, as well as suite-style options."
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 13:11     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glad paperwork went easily for you. Our experiences with any paperwork at GMU were awful. DD lived in dorms all four years and loved it.


Kudos to GMU because [b]there is no paperwork associated with requesting a waiver online for those living within the counties of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William, or Loudoun! They are smart to make it so easy.
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That's not true. There is a mileage rule when you apply for the waiver. it is not automatic.


Your statement is refuted per the GMU website:

[b]who have close residency to campus with a parent or legal guardian. The residence must be within the counties of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William, or Loudoun.


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You're omitting (for some strange reason) the first part of the post which says all freshman must live in dorms. Then if you are over 20, married, a veteran, etc. have dependents or live with parents close to the University you may apply for an EXEMPTION and then there is a link to the application. It is not automatic. All of DD's friends lived on campus the first year. get in the honors dorm if you can.

Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 13:04     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
All freshman live in the dorms at GMU. You may apply for an exemption but that's not guaranteed. Here's the form for those over 20, married, veterans or students who have dependents. You can apply for the waiver if you live in Fairfax County but it is not guaranteed. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 13:01     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glad paperwork went easily for you. Our experiences with any paperwork at GMU were awful. DD lived in dorms all four years and loved it.


Kudos to GMU because [b]there is no paperwork associated with requesting a waiver online for those living within the counties of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William, or Loudoun! They are smart to make it so easy.
[/b]


That's not true. There is a mileage rule when you apply for the waiver. it is not automatic.


Your statement is refuted per the GMU website:

who have close residency to campus with a parent or legal guardian. The residence must be within the counties of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William, or Loudoun.


Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 13:01     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Please don't make the mistake students did in my DS's private and assume you will get into GMU. There were four very unhappy students last year. Here are the stats. for the incoming 2017 GPA of students enrolled and actually on campus: 75th percentile GPA of 3.90. median 3.67 and bottom 25% of 3.42. Don't listen to anyone more than five or six years out.
A lot has changed.
http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 12:57     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glad paperwork went easily for you. Our experiences with any paperwork at GMU were awful. DD lived in dorms all four years and loved it.


Kudos to GMU because [b]there is no paperwork associated with requesting a waiver online for those living within the counties of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William, or Loudoun! They are smart to make it so easy.
[/b]


That's not true. There is a mileage rule when you apply for the waiver. it is not automatic.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 12:53     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:Glad paperwork went easily for you. Our experiences with any paperwork at GMU were awful. DD lived in dorms all four years and loved it.


Kudos to GMU because there is no paperwork associated with requesting a waiver online for those living within the counties of Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William, or Loudoun! They are smart to make it so easy.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 12:52     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am naive but why does it matter in terms of learning?


Also, commuter schools like George Mason tend to have a higher percentage of older adult students.

I wasn't ready at 17 to go too far away for college, so I went to Mason and lived on campus. Most of my classes were made up of commuter younger students and older adult students. It's hard to form connections and also extremely hard to schedule study groups and group project sessions when everyone is in such a different place (literally and figuratively for the older students, many of whom were parents and also working full-time jobs). My roommate was gone most weekends and a lot of evenings and the same was true of many of the people on my floor. Even those who lived on campus acted like part time commuter students with how much they went home for meals, laundry, quiet study areas, etc.

I hated it so much after my first semester that I enrolled in NVCC for Spring semester and left Mason. That fall I transferred to UVA where I was required to live on campus as a new incoming student and even though I was housed with Freshmen, it was the BEST experience. I made fast friends with my dorm mates and people in my classes. There were very little scheduling issues because everyone was on the same level. It was just a completely difference experience and what my peers who went away to other colleges experienced their first year vs. my disaster semester.



That all may have been true for you whenever you attended but GMU is definitely no longer a commuter school. In fact, first year students have to live on campus. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students
. We had the opposite experience from you. DS has been at GMU for four years and lived in the dorms all four years. Check here for international and OSS students. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University. Many of the FCPS students in DS's class and in another subsequent child's private school had GMU has their no. 1 choice but didn't get in. Check also for all the satellite campuses and the new S. Korean campus. The Va Assembly has been pouring money into GMU for two decades. The university is regularly named no. 1 up and coming university in the rankings.

The opposite experience was that one of our children took a NVCC summer course as a rising high school senior to boost his chances on the SAT subject matter tests. His professor was awful. She was truly phoning it in. She didn't care about the course, her teaching, the labs or the students. He stuck with it, got his A and is at Stanford today. But due to that experience, we would never recommend NVCC. There are just too many adjunct profs teaching for a set fee per class. I realize that is just the experience of one professor in one class but it was clear that this prof had three courses going on at the same time, was being paid only a certain amount, and was just not interested. A few times she didn't even bother to show up. Meanwhile DS has had the opposite experience with most of his profs at GMU (there was one or two pills along the way). Overall the GMU experience has been great. Look also into the GMU abroad programs which DS has done.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 12:23     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am naive but why does it matter in terms of learning?


Also, commuter schools like George Mason tend to have a higher percentage of older adult students.

I wasn't ready at 17 to go too far away for college, so I went to Mason and lived on campus. Most of my classes were made up of commuter younger students and older adult students. It's hard to form connections and also extremely hard to schedule study groups and group project sessions when everyone is in such a different place (literally and figuratively for the older students, many of whom were parents and also working full-time jobs). My roommate was gone most weekends and a lot of evenings and the same was true of many of the people on my floor. Even those who lived on campus acted like part time commuter students with how much they went home for meals, laundry, quiet study areas, etc.

I hated it so much after my first semester that I enrolled in NVCC for Spring semester and left Mason. That fall I transferred to UVA where I was required to live on campus as a new incoming student and even though I was housed with Freshmen, it was the BEST experience. I made fast friends with my dorm mates and people in my classes. There were very little scheduling issues because everyone was on the same level. It was just a completely difference experience and what my peers who went away to other colleges experienced their first year vs. my disaster semester.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 12:16     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
OP: Look up the college's COMMON DATA SET. The information you're looking for is in the section titled "STUDENT LIFE" - under "Percent who live off campus or commute".
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 12:09     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
BTW, not one of DD's friends lived at home. Everyone was OOS or international and lived in the dorms. After first year some moved into apartments. One moved into a condo that parents bought. I have a friend whose DD is in the honors program (live in a special dorm on campus). I've never a student who lives at home locally.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 12:05     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Glad paperwork went easily for you. Our experiences with any paperwork at GMU were awful. DD lived in dorms all four years and loved it.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2018 10:12     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
^ GMU plan for many to fill out the waiver.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 21:37     Subject: Commuter School - How do you know?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:uh, George Mason requires all freshman to live on campus now.


Nope. Not even close. Majority live with parents and commute. Most GMU undergrads do not live in the few dorm spaces.

Most FRESHMEN do live on campus.



They are required to live in the dorms freshman year at GMU. You can file for a waiver but good luck with GMU paper bureaucracy. DS lived in dorms for four years with students from all over the world.


Yes, the paperwork is so difficult that students can apply for the exemption online!


My DS applied for the waiver online a couple of weeks ago. It was already approved. I expected it to be so painful to get the waiver after reading all the complaints about how difficult GMU can be with paperwork. I was pleasantly surprised.