Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 23:45     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the title of this thread INCREDIBLY racist and offensive?


The racism is what drove and still drives the achievement gap. Discussing it isn't racist.


Well, that's one theory, but by no means clearly established.


So you think black people are inherently inferior? You're welcome to take that theory and stick it up your behind alongside your head.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 21:57     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the title of this thread INCREDIBLY racist and offensive?


The racism is what drove and still drives the achievement gap. Discussing it isn't racist.


Well, that's one theory, but by no means clearly established.


Well, it's hard to avoid believing that it's at least partially true, at least for descendants of African-American slaves in the US. But it does NOT apply to many immigrants from low-income countries who do not have previous generations' access to quality state education, either. So, low-income, low-access to education is a common cause for low performance across low-performing ethnic groups, but the legacy of slavery is an intersectional cause for many American, low-income AAs. Anyone who ignores this reality should be criticized as non-caring, unpatriotic, and so forth, imo.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 21:37     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the title of this thread INCREDIBLY racist and offensive?


The racism is what drove and still drives the achievement gap. Discussing it isn't racist.


Well, that's one theory, but by no means clearly established.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 19:54     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
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Anonymous wrote:DCPS isn't getting better its entirely gentrification which is causing the rise

Now, DC Charters are getting better dealing with a largely lower non-gentrification black population which is impressive

If DCPS was smart they would copy what the charters are doing.


Thanks for the data, it was very convincing!


The only data that charter shills need is that marketing sells.


Look it up idiots. charters taking lower SES that have been failed by DCPS for DECADES and getting RESULTS


This is just not true. The charter school movement has made things worse, by pulling more invested families from the system. And they expel students at staggering rates.


Charter Board website lists 0.3% expulsion rate for charters. Is that "staggering"? Serious question -- as the % seems low to me but I don't have a comparison. OSSE reported 99 expulsions in all of DC (charter and non-charter) for 2015-16.


Where can they send them, except back to DCPS, all children have a right to be educated at a neighborhood DCPS school
Can DCPS expel kids? Where do they go?


Charter school enrollment was 38,905 in 2015. Those 99 expulsions round off to 0.3%. So it looks like DCPS does not expel kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 19:49     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCPS isn't getting better its entirely gentrification which is causing the rise

Now, DC Charters are getting better dealing with a largely lower non-gentrification black population which is impressive

If DCPS was smart they would copy what the charters are doing.


Thanks for the data, it was very convincing!


The only data that charter shills need is that marketing sells.


Look it up idiots. charters taking lower SES that have been failed by DCPS for DECADES and getting RESULTS


This is just not true. The charter school movement has made things worse, by pulling more invested families from the system. And they expel students at staggering rates.


Charter Board website lists 0.3% expulsion rate for charters. Is that "staggering"? Serious question -- as the % seems low to me but I don't have a comparison. OSSE reported 99 expulsions in all of DC (charter and non-charter) for 2015-16.


Can DCPS expel kids? Where do they go?


Charter school enrollment was 38,905 in 2015. Those 99 expulsions round off to 0.3%. So it looks like DCPS does not expel kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 19:04     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Ugh so much bs on this thread

Test scores are directly correlated to SES/income/gentrification and in DC that means more white people higher scores duh

Charters are getting results from low SES populations. KIPP, DC Prep etc duh

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Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 18:40     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCPS isn't getting better its entirely gentrification which is causing the rise

Now, DC Charters are getting better dealing with a largely lower non-gentrification black population which is impressive

If DCPS was smart they would copy what the charters are doing.


Thanks for the data, it was very convincing!


The only data that charter shills need is that marketing sells.


Look it up idiots. charters taking lower SES that have been failed by DCPS for DECADES and getting RESULTS


This is just not true. The charter school movement has made things worse, by pulling more invested families from the system. And they expel students at staggering rates.


Charter Board website lists 0.3% expulsion rate for charters. Is that "staggering"? Serious question -- as the % seems low to me but I don't have a comparison. OSSE reported 99 expulsions in all of DC (charter and non-charter) for 2015-16.


Can DCPS expel kids? Where do they go?


Hopefully juvi
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 18:32     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCPS isn't getting better its entirely gentrification which is causing the rise

Now, DC Charters are getting better dealing with a largely lower non-gentrification black population which is impressive

If DCPS was smart they would copy what the charters are doing.


Thanks for the data, it was very convincing!


The only data that charter shills need is that marketing sells.


Look it up idiots. charters taking lower SES that have been failed by DCPS for DECADES and getting RESULTS


This is just not true. The charter school movement has made things worse, by pulling more invested families from the system. And they expel students at staggering rates.


Charter Board website lists 0.3% expulsion rate for charters. Is that "staggering"? Serious question -- as the % seems low to me but I don't have a comparison. OSSE reported 99 expulsions in all of DC (charter and non-charter) for 2015-16.


Can DCPS expel kids? Where do they go?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 18:19     Subject: Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Raising test scores in the aggregate looks good initially, but a deeper dive may reveal a widening achievement gap.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2018 18:15     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the title of this thread INCREDIBLY racist and offensive?


The racism is what drove and still drives the achievement gap. Discussing it isn't racist.

In fact the title seems the opposite of racist. The OP asked if schools were getting better, or the implied alternative is whiter but not better. It's acknowledging that whiter may be seen as better but that doesn't mean they are getting better.

Think first before you get offended.


Or even more simple than that. The influx of white kids are raising the text scores, graduation rates and college rates which are then being showcased by the district without a corresponding raise in actual quality of the system its self.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2018 13:45     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the title of this thread INCREDIBLY racist and offensive?


The racism is what drove and still drives the achievement gap. Discussing it isn't racist.

In fact the title seems the opposite of racist. The OP asked if schools were getting better, or the implied alternative is whiter but not better. It's acknowledging that whiter may be seen as better but that doesn't mean they are getting better.

Think first before you get offended.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2018 13:39     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCPS isn't getting better its entirely gentrification which is causing the rise

Now, DC Charters are getting better dealing with a largely lower non-gentrification black population which is impressive

If DCPS was smart they would copy what the charters are doing.


Thanks for the data, it was very convincing!


The only data that charter shills need is that marketing sells.


Look it up idiots. charters taking lower SES that have been failed by DCPS for DECADES and getting RESULTS


This is just not true. The charter school movement has made things worse, by pulling more invested families from the system. And they expel students at staggering rates.


Charter Board website lists 0.3% expulsion rate for charters. Is that "staggering"? Serious question -- as the % seems low to me but I don't have a comparison. OSSE reported 99 expulsions in all of DC (charter and non-charter) for 2015-16.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2018 13:30     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find the title of this thread INCREDIBLY racist and offensive?


What exactly is the part you find offensive? How can one complain about the achievement gap and then complain about what that looks like in the metrics of the system? Is it racist the mere fact that white kids do better by the traditional measures?
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2018 13:19     Subject: Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
There are more invested families in the system now because of how charters have made staying in the city a possibility for so many more people. Some ended up at charters and some didn't.

Without charters, so many would have left the city or tried to pull a Chancellor Wilson.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2018 13:15     Subject: Re:Are DC schools really getting better or are they just getting whiter?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DCPS isn't getting better its entirely gentrification which is causing the rise

Now, DC Charters are getting better dealing with a largely lower non-gentrification black population which is impressive

If DCPS was smart they would copy what the charters are doing.


Thanks for the data, it was very convincing!


The only data that charter shills need is that marketing sells.


Look it up idiots. charters taking lower SES that have been failed by DCPS for DECADES and getting RESULTS


This is just not true. The charter school movement has made things worse, by pulling more invested families from the system. And they expel students at staggering rates.