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Anonymous wrote:What Kim said to SJP is really awful. She posted the news of her brother's death. If her SATC co-stars had ignored it, she'd probably be lashing out at them for that. Instead, SJP and Cynthia Nixon both posted condolences. Kim responded to CN with: 'Cynthia, hearing your voice meant so much to me. Thank you for reaching out. Love Kim #SexandtheCity.

Then responded to SJP with: I don't need your love or support at this tragic time. My Mom asked me today “When will that @sarahjessicaparker, that hypocrite, leave you alone?” Your continuous reaching out is a painful reminder of how cruel you really were then and now. Let me make this VERY clear. (If I haven’t already) You are not my family. You are not my friend. So I’m writing to tell you one last time to stop exploiting our tragedy in order to restore your ‘nice girl’ persona.

Wtf, Kim? I get that you're grieving, but that seems completely unnecessary.

OP, is it really a feud if it's so one-sided?

That kind of tells me that SJP really was a b*tch to Kim during the SATC days and that Kim feels the "reaching out" SJP does is just for show.

Perhaps.

I get that she is going through a difficult time, but she simply could have chosen not to respond, instead of lashing out in such an ugly way. There is something to be said for keeping a dignified silence.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5008115/Kim-Cattrall-says-Sex-City-stopped-having-kids.html

She blamed the show for the failure of her 3rd marriage (ahem) and the fact that the show was too demanding time wise for her to have a baby (keeping in mind she was already in her 40s when the show started). She's got baggage.

I mean, they/we all do. Isn’t that obvious?

It wasn’t so many years ago that one of SJP’s husband’s affairs made it to the tabloids.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5008115/Kim-Cattrall-says-Sex-City-stopped-having-kids.html

She blamed the show for the failure of her 3rd marriage (ahem) and the fact that the show was too demanding time wise for her to have a baby (keeping in mind she was already in her 40s when the show started). She's got baggage.

They should do another movie, and it should be realistic.

Miranda should hate her life at Big Law. She should be sick of the sexual harassment and being screwed over by male partners. She should be sick of her bartender husband who contributes nothing financially. She should be stressed out by NYC private schools and kid drama. She should be 10 pounds overweight, and she should wear yoga pants and athleisure.

The brunette should be uber stressed out about NYC private school drama. She should be engaged in mommy wars. Sexless marriage. Her husband should be cheating. She should have a fling with her ex in a moment of weakness and get pregnant. Then he should tell her he's gay.

Big should be struggling with alcohol and opioid addiction due to his old man back pain. His business ventures are failing, and they need to downsize and cut back. Carrie grapples with having to move into a one bedroom walk-up with only one closet and having to be nursemaid to old man Big. Lots of whining about how this wasn't the life she signed up for. Aiden is very successful and happily married with a handful of kids. Carrie reads about him in a profile in Architectural Digest, and she's shocked that he is ridiculously wealthy with homes all around the world. She runs into him on the street with his oldest child and she wonders what her life would be like had she stayed with him and had kids.

Samantha is MIA throughout the entire film. There are references to her through phone calls and media coverage of her glamorous life. She's too busy traveling and dating an A list actor (think: Pierce Brosnan/George Clooney). Sadly, 2/3 of the way through the movie she dies in a car crash thanks to paparazzi (a la princess Di). The girls come together for the funeral and take stock of where they are, whine about their boo hoo problems, and ultimately realize that Sam lived her life to the fullest to the very end...and only the good die young. They make a pact to put themselves first and agree to dump their husbands. Carrie moves back to her old apartment, Miranda gets a rental in the city, and the brunette still has her fabulous apt.

The gays make an appearance near the end of the film. They're happily married with children and have a perfect NYC life. Thx girls are a little disappointed that the gays aren't up for partying, and for a moment they wonder if they made a mistake. Nonetheless, they preservere and continue to go shoe shopping and have brunch...just the girls (who are now old ladies), single and "fabulous."

Anonymous wrote:That’s a rough picture of sjp. She’s not aging well.

Aging well? She was never attractive in the first place. SJP looks like a horse and is one unattractive woman. She has nice figure, but she has a face that only a mother could love.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here.

The thing about that show is that it was groundbreaking FOR ITS TIME. It really was original in that you had women really talking about sexual experiences and relationships in a way that wasn't singularly focused on finding a husband and happy ever after. You also had different female perspectives -- some more sexually adventurous than others -- and none were treated as better or worse.

Where the show went wrong is in the last season or so when it did become about getting married and having kids, when it was no longer okay to be single, as in they all had to end up in relationships in order to be complete. I thought that went against everything that made the show interesting. In the earlier seasons, you had single women who were pretty happy with their single lives. Relationships with men were interesting, but those women weren't defined by them.

As for a movie without Samantha, it wouldn't have worked. Whether you liked or hated Samantha, she added both a levity and an edge to the show that really gave it its kick. She was essential. I also think that she was the best actress in the show.

As for tension between them, I don't really care. It's a show. I don't need for them to be friends IRL. I don't know why people are fixated on that.

I largely agree with you on your analysis of where the show content went wrong. But there’s another huge component: The show just went nuts with money and materialism in the last few seasons and in the movie. It was no longer potentially obtainable and aspirational. It was Trump-type gaudy, and it ceases to be relatable.

They totally forgot why women originally fell in love with the show.

I'm the person you are responding to, and I agree completely. That's another place it went wrong.

It lost its edge.

Anonymous wrote:NP here.

The thing about that show is that it was groundbreaking FOR ITS TIME. It really was original in that you had women really talking about sexual experiences and relationships in a way that wasn't singularly focused on finding a husband and happy ever after. You also had different female perspectives -- some more sexually adventurous than others -- and none were treated as better or worse.

Where the show went wrong is in the last season or so when it did become about getting married and having kids, when it was no longer okay to be single, as in they all had to end up in relationships in order to be complete. I thought that went against everything that made the show interesting. In the earlier seasons, you had single women who were pretty happy with their single lives. Relationships with men were interesting, but those women weren't defined by them.

As for a movie without Samantha, it wouldn't have worked. Whether you liked or hated Samantha, she added both a levity and an edge to the show that really gave it its kick. She was essential. I also think that she was the best actress in the show.

As for tension between them, I don't really care. It's a show. I don't need for them to be friends IRL. I don't know why people are fixated on that.

I largely agree with you on your analysis of where the show content went wrong. But there’s another huge component: The show just went nuts with money and materialism in the last few seasons and in the movie. It was no longer potentially obtainable and aspirational. It was Trump-type gaudy, and it ceases to be relatable.

They totally forgot why women originally fell in love with the show.

Anonymous wrote:What Kim said to SJP is really awful. She posted the news of her brother's death. If her SATC co-stars had ignored it, she'd probably be lashing out at them for that. Instead, SJP and Cynthia Nixon both posted condolences. Kim responded to CN with: 'Cynthia, hearing your voice meant so much to me. Thank you for reaching out. Love Kim #SexandtheCity.

Then responded to SJP with: I don't need your love or support at this tragic time. My Mom asked me today “When will that @sarahjessicaparker, that hypocrite, leave you alone?” Your continuous reaching out is a painful reminder of how cruel you really were then and now. Let me make this VERY clear. (If I haven’t already) You are not my family. You are not my friend. So I’m writing to tell you one last time to stop exploiting our tragedy in order to restore your ‘nice girl’ persona.

Wtf, Kim? I get that you're grieving, but that seems completely unnecessary.

OP, is it really a feud if it's so one-sided?

That kind of tells me that SJP really was a b*tch to Kim during the SATC days and that Kim feels the "reaching out" SJP does is just for show.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect Kim Catrall is a nightmare. I think she realizes she hasn't aged well and simply can't play that role anymore. They should just replace her with Sharon Stone. SJP is liked by celebrities, and she gets along with Davis and Nixon. Seems plausible that Catrall is the one with the issues. Isn't she single and childless? And didn't her brother just commit suicide?

I don’t like Kim Catrall but I hardly think she should be criticized for being single, childless, and having a family member commit suicide.

Those things point towards the possibility that she is difficult, stubborn, etc. and is more likely the one at fault in the rift with happily married, well liked SJP.

I know plenty of single, childless women who are fabulous. But that doesn't mean Catrall is...particularly since we've all seen her personality in interviews. And the brother who committed suicide likely had mental health issues. Mental health issues are often genetic or connected to childhood trauma. Again: that points to Catrall being the one with issues rather than SJP (who overcame childhood adversity).

Catrall is done with Hollywood. She's let herself go and has no interest in acting. Fortunately, she doesn't need the money.

You're reaching.

I know a lot of married people with kids who seem well-liked but are fake and irritating to be around.

I don't think those things point toward being difficult and stubborn.

Anonymous wrote:NP here.

The thing about that show is that it was groundbreaking FOR ITS TIME. It really was original in that you had women really talking about sexual experiences and relationships in a way that wasn't singularly focused on finding a husband and happy ever after. You also had different female perspectives -- some more sexually adventurous than others -- and none were treated as better or worse.

Where the show went wrong is in the last season or so when it did become about getting married and having kids, when it was no longer okay to be single, as in they all had to end up in relationships in order to be complete. I thought that went against everything that made the show interesting. In the earlier seasons, you had single women who were pretty happy with their single lives. Relationships with men were interesting, but those women weren't defined by them.

As for a movie without Samantha, it wouldn't have worked. Whether you liked or hated Samantha, she added both a levity and an edge to the show that really gave it its kick. She was essential. I also think that she was the best actress in the show.

As for tension between them, I don't really care. It's a show. I don't need for them to be friends IRL. I don't know why people are fixated on that.

I agree with that but it seems they want to make her some monster for not wanting to do another one. If she is THIS important seems like a little bit of sweetness and light might go a long way to changing her mind vs. throwing her under the bus constantly.

^^^ me again.

I thought the movies were horrible. The show doesn't work as a full length movie. I also think that it was no longer edgy, as times have moved along.

NP here.

The thing about that show is that it was groundbreaking FOR ITS TIME. It really was original in that you had women really talking about sexual experiences and relationships in a way that wasn't singularly focused on finding a husband and happy ever after. You also had different female perspectives -- some more sexually adventurous than others -- and none were treated as better or worse.

Where the show went wrong is in the last season or so when it did become about getting married and having kids, when it was no longer okay to be single, as in they all had to end up in relationships in order to be complete. I thought that went against everything that made the show interesting. In the earlier seasons, you had single women who were pretty happy with their single lives. Relationships with men were interesting, but those women weren't defined by them.

As for a movie without Samantha, it wouldn't have worked. Whether you liked or hated Samantha, she added both a levity and an edge to the show that really gave it its kick. She was essential. I also think that she was the best actress in the show.

As for tension between them, I don't really care. It's a show. I don't need for them to be friends IRL. I don't know why people are fixated on that.

Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't get: if they wanted to do a movie, just do one without Samantha. Cold open at Samantha's funeral. She died of cancer. It's all very sad. Then move on with the rest of the movie.

This is how you know them blaming it on Kim is some bs

That’s a rough picture of sjp. She’s not aging well.

Anonymous wrote:I recently saw an interview with Kim. She said that she didn't want to do another SATC, but encouraged the movie to go on with another actress in the role. She clearly supported the movie going forward without her.

I don't understand why they couldn't accept her decision.

This. SJP of all people should know that sometimes you just don’t want to play a role, since she turned down SATC twice before finally agreeing to do it. Carr rally is done and SJP shouldn’t be shaming her into playing that role in perpetuity. And yes, the movies were bad - in large part because they were so SJP-centered.