Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 17:26     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
I don't have access to Naviance and it is too early for us to know about these things in detail... Curious on GMU.

Is it s big draw for out of state students? How has that changed over the years? How about their expected averages and ranking over time? I see a lot of development around campus and was wondering if that's a result of their improved stature..
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 17:11     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:It all depends on the major.

VT is tops for engineering
UVA/VCU for medical fields and nursing
UVA and W&M for liberal arts
Radford for criminal justice
UMW for historic preservation and geography
GMU for business

Pick a school based on your child’s interests not the school’s popularity


Yes and No. Good for business. GMU is xlnt for engineering, anything computer and game design. It's been an up and comer for years.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 16:55     Subject: Re:Rank these VA public universities
For all science (VT) it is really the best in state option


For pre-health ... pharmacy, PA, PT I would choose VCU in state. VT's "med school" is too young, not established enough. Best option, really is a teaching hospital large state U out of state.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 16:50     Subject: Re:Rank these VA public universities
UVA tied w/W&M
JMU tied w/VT
VCU, GMU, CNU are only competitive to get in re: certain programs, and from a NoVa HS.
CNU attracts conservative students and CNU is actively protecting their yield to raise their ranking.
GMU can be a annoyingly unpredictable if coming from a NoVa HS.
UMW
ODU, Longwood, Radford
All schools have good programs for certain students. Depends on what the student wants
Obsessing over ranking these schools, IMO, suggests a negative re: the person asking the question
And re: all schools, it not just about getting in, it's also about getting out
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 16:46     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Middle of the pack NoVA <> middle of the pack Commonwealth of Virginia
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 16:27     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Naviance stats from a W HS in MD for 2017.

School Apply Admit Enroll
UVA 58 11 0
JMU 26 17 4
VTU 23 11 2
W&M 20 12 5
GMU 18 11 2
MWU 6 4 0
VCU 5 3 2
CNU 4 1 0


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Naviance stats from a middle-of-the-pack NoVA HS for 2017

School Apply Admit Enroll
UVA 147 60 35
JMU 134 87 25
VTU 192 122 56
W&M 75 29 11
GMU 209 164 58
MWU 66 56 13
VCU 153 127 49
CNU 54 41 8


Right, middle of the pack HS, with a UVA acceptance rate of 40%. Overall acceptance rate is 27%.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 16:18     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It all depends on the major.

VT is tops for engineering
UVA/VCU for medical fields and nursing
UVA and W&M for liberal arts
Radford for criminal justice
UMW for historic preservation and geography
GMU for business

Pick a school based on your child’s interests not the school’s popularity


What about JMU? Are they good at anything other than elementary ed?


Well they Just Missed UVA, so they’ve got that.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 15:56     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:Naviance stats from a W HS in MD for 2017.

School Apply Admit Enroll
UVA 58 11 0
JMU 26 17 4
VTU 23 11 2
W&M 20 12 5
GMU 18 11 2
MWU 6 4 0
VCU 5 3 2
CNU 4 1 0


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Naviance stats from a middle-of-the-pack NoVA HS for 2017

School Apply Admit Enroll
UVA 147 60 35
JMU 134 87 25
VTU 192 122 56
W&M 75 29 11
GMU 209 164 58
MWU 66 56 13
VCU 153 127 49
CNU 54 41 8
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 15:51     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Nice post 14:32
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 15:51     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Depends on what you’re ranking. Have you heard of USNWR?


Just general reputability, I guess. Just trying to get a sense of things. No - what is USNWR?


US News & World Report. Eg., VCU is the #1 (maybe #2 now?) public arts U, and an R2 with a major medical center, but is often mentioned on this board as a “last resort.”


I actually would have put VCU at 4th, above JMU.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 15:48     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Virginia Texh has a medical school. It is new but competitive for entry. It also has the only local Vet School. For all science it is really the best in state option. Nursing is better elsewhere and UVA is tops for medical. But Virginia Tech is tops for science both in terms of reputation and actual options and disciples taught. And no, JMU. No. Not in the same league. And honestly, VT has good business and Architecture as well. It is not a one-trick engineering school at all.


Sounds like Tech should then be ahead of UVA.


I wrote that on my phone so I apologize for the typos. I don't know about being ahead of UVA for medical. I am not a doctor (I play one on TV) and so I only know about reputation and I think UVA's medical school is good. And for some science it is probably comparable. Virginia Tech's medical school is only about a decade old. Vet schools are very competitive regardless of where they are and Virginia Tech's has facilities in Blacksburg and whole facility dedicated to Equine Veterinary Medicine in Middleburg. Virginia Tech has more highly ranked engineering options and in terms of Life Sciences, it is kind of nuts what people can study there. All manner of Biologies, Forestry and Wildlife, fisheries, Animal Science (Dairy Science, Equine Studies), wood science, renewable resources, classes on viticulture. I could go on and it is actually kind of amazing. And then there are all the non-engineering, non-life science options such as computer science. And then there are the typical things like liberal arts classes. It has the largest Civil War library in the world with the exception of the Library of Congress. So, as I type this I do think that if someone wants to study science and wants lots of options and the ability to study across disciplines, Virginia Tech is an amazing place. It is overshadowed by the history of UVA (Jefferson!) and W & M (Jefferson again!) but it is kind of comparable to the flagship school of most other states and we are super lucky to have all three in Virginia.


Yep. Tech is a land grant so they have amazing practical programs that connect students with community needs.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 15:43     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Depends on what you’re ranking. Have you heard of USNWR?


Just general reputability, I guess. Just trying to get a sense of things. No - what is USNWR?


US News & World Report. Eg., VCU is the #1 (maybe #2 now?) public arts U, and an R2 with a major medical center, but is often mentioned on this board as a “last resort.”
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 14:32     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Virginia Texh has a medical school. It is new but competitive for entry. It also has the only local Vet School. For all science it is really the best in state option. Nursing is better elsewhere and UVA is tops for medical. But Virginia Tech is tops for science both in terms of reputation and actual options and disciples taught. And no, JMU. No. Not in the same league. And honestly, VT has good business and Architecture as well. It is not a one-trick engineering school at all.


Sounds like Tech should then be ahead of UVA.


I wrote that on my phone so I apologize for the typos. I don't know about being ahead of UVA for medical. I am not a doctor (I play one on TV) and so I only know about reputation and I think UVA's medical school is good. And for some science it is probably comparable. Virginia Tech's medical school is only about a decade old. Vet schools are very competitive regardless of where they are and Virginia Tech's has facilities in Blacksburg and whole facility dedicated to Equine Veterinary Medicine in Middleburg. Virginia Tech has more highly ranked engineering options and in terms of Life Sciences, it is kind of nuts what people can study there. All manner of Biologies, Forestry and Wildlife, fisheries, Animal Science (Dairy Science, Equine Studies), wood science, renewable resources, classes on viticulture. I could go on and it is actually kind of amazing. And then there are all the non-engineering, non-life science options such as computer science. And then there are the typical things like liberal arts classes. It has the largest Civil War library in the world with the exception of the Library of Congress. So, as I type this I do think that if someone wants to study science and wants lots of options and the ability to study across disciplines, Virginia Tech is an amazing place. It is overshadowed by the history of UVA (Jefferson!) and W & M (Jefferson again!) but it is kind of comparable to the flagship school of most other states and we are super lucky to have all three in Virginia.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 14:26     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Naviance stats from a W HS in MD for 2017.

School Apply Admit Enroll
UVA 58 11 0
JMU 26 17 4
VTU 23 11 2
W&M 20 12 5
GMU 18 11 2
MWU 6 4 0
VCU 5 3 2
CNU 4 1 0
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2018 14:26     Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It all depends on the major.

VT is tops for engineering
UVA/VCU for medical fields and nursing
UVA and W&M for liberal arts
Radford for criminal justice
UMW for historic preservation and geography
GMU for business

Pick a school based on your child’s interests not the school’s popularity


What about JMU? Are they good at anything other than elementary ed?

Drinking
Tho I think the general engineering program that someone else called a waste is a new edge on engineering and will involve hands-on kids who are interested in community based problem solving. It’s not Tech, but it has value for a different group of kids. Agree their teacher prep is good.
UMW has CRW SATs asgood (percentage wise) as any of the others beyond the top 3. With no fraternities or sororities, it’s a nice community for liberal arts kids. They produce a Fulbright scholar now and then and are getting kids into med schools. I think it’s a super in-state option. FOR OUT-of state it depends whether your state offers something similar.