Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
NP here. Maybe it is a fad. But it's what humans have done for millennia. Up until 80 years ago we never had access to food 24/7 and there were often long stretches where the body went without food. Common sense tells me that our bodies adapted to that.
I don't think this is accurate. While humans can store fat in times of excess for times of scarcity, I think for most of human history, we've typically had food for regular meals. Fasts were not common, periodic, or desired.
Which human history are you basing this on? Where can I find this history? I gotta be the worst history grad student!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
NP here. Maybe it is a fad. But it's what humans have done for millennia. Up until 80 years ago we never had access to food 24/7 and there were often long stretches where the body went without food. Common sense tells me that our bodies adapted to that.
I don't think this is accurate. While humans can store fat in times of excess for times of scarcity, I think for most of human history, we've typically had food for regular meals. Fasts were not common, periodic, or desired.
Anonymous wrote:
This doesn't seem so much like "fasting" as "skipping breakfast." Not a great idea.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here. For those who have been doing IF, a couple questions...
1. Did you just jump right into it and fast for 2 days? How rough a start is it? I work and have young kids and worry about being angry and/or unfocussed.
2. If you fast for entire days or multiple days, do you also exercise? Only exercise on days you eat? Or don't exercise at all?
Thanks.
I've been fasting on and off for a couple of years doing 5:2. Yes, I jumped right in. My routine is coffee with cream in the morning, but nothing more until dinner. I drink a lot of water, have herbal tea, sometimes a cup of chicken bullion. For some reason salt seems to help on fasting days - I got headaches when I first started, and the chicken bullion helped a lot. I try to stay to 500 calories on fast days, so for me that is the coffee plus a dinner with lots and lots of vegetables and a piece of protein - chicken breast, an egg, something like that. If I have a few calories left over I'll have a few chocolate chips. During the rest of the week (my non-fast days) I eat the number of calories I can eat a day without gaining weight, which is about 1500 for me. I do most of my exercising (yoga, climbing wall, hiking, kayaking) on the weekends, and I eat normally on the weekends.
Part of what I had to get my head around was mental. I realize some people get dizzy and cranky when they are hungry, but I found I don't have to (but truly, people are different. IF is not a good fit for many people). When I started to see hunger as any other feeling in my body, and not an existential emergency I had to respond to, I stopped feeling so bad when I was hungry. I remind myself that people have always had times of hunger, and they didn't start swooning and hollering when they couldn't bring down a buffalo. They carried on. So basically I told myself to suck it up. Which works for me, but which isn't necessarily helpful for others!
This is disordered and unhealthy, period. Sure, it's a fad now, but it is NOT healthy by any means.
I disagree with you, clearly, and so does my GP and my nutritionist. What for me was disordered was constantly thinking about food and snacking. My body was also disordered and sick with pre-diabetes. I’m healthy now, so I’ll carry on.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I read The Obesity Code by Dr Fung. Basically he says it's not as simple as calories in/out. Weight gain/loss is dependent on insulin levels. Fasting is a way to do this. He goes way in depth about how the body processes food but that stuff went over my head. Coffee is fine. Black coffee is best but if milk helps you comply then it's ok. Diet sodas are not fine (sugar subs raise your insulin). Some people do 2 days of fasting to five eating. I do 16:8, do basically I eat from noon-8. Around ten I may feel hungry, but I drink water, stay busy and it goes away.
This doesn't seem so much like "fasting" as "skipping breakfast." Not a great idea.
Anonymous wrote:I read The Obesity Code by Dr Fung. Basically he says it's not as simple as calories in/out. Weight gain/loss is dependent on insulin levels. Fasting is a way to do this. He goes way in depth about how the body processes food but that stuff went over my head. Coffee is fine. Black coffee is best but if milk helps you comply then it's ok. Diet sodas are not fine (sugar subs raise your insulin). Some people do 2 days of fasting to five eating. I do 16:8, do basically I eat from noon-8. Around ten I may feel hungry, but I drink water, stay busy and it goes away.
Anonymous wrote:
NP here. Maybe it is a fad. But it's what humans have done for millennia. Up until 80 years ago we never had access to food 24/7 and there were often long stretches where the body went without food. Common sense tells me that our bodies adapted to that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here. For those who have been doing IF, a couple questions...
1. Did you just jump right into it and fast for 2 days? How rough a start is it? I work and have young kids and worry about being angry and/or unfocussed.
2. If you fast for entire days or multiple days, do you also exercise? Only exercise on days you eat? Or don't exercise at all?
Thanks.
I've been fasting on and off for a couple of years doing 5:2. Yes, I jumped right in. My routine is coffee with cream in the morning, but nothing more until dinner. I drink a lot of water, have herbal tea, sometimes a cup of chicken bullion. For some reason salt seems to help on fasting days - I got headaches when I first started, and the chicken bullion helped a lot. I try to stay to 500 calories on fast days, so for me that is the coffee plus a dinner with lots and lots of vegetables and a piece of protein - chicken breast, an egg, something like that. If I have a few calories left over I'll have a few chocolate chips. During the rest of the week (my non-fast days) I eat the number of calories I can eat a day without gaining weight, which is about 1500 for me. I do most of my exercising (yoga, climbing wall, hiking, kayaking) on the weekends, and I eat normally on the weekends.
Part of what I had to get my head around was mental. I realize some people get dizzy and cranky when they are hungry, but I found I don't have to (but truly, people are different. IF is not a good fit for many people). When I started to see hunger as any other feeling in my body, and not an existential emergency I had to respond to, I stopped feeling so bad when I was hungry. I remind myself that people have always had times of hunger, and they didn't start swooning and hollering when they couldn't bring down a buffalo. They carried on. So basically I told myself to suck it up. Which works for me, but which isn't necessarily helpful for others!
This is disordered and unhealthy, period. Sure, it's a fad now, but it is NOT healthy by any means.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here. For those who have been doing IF, a couple questions...
1. Did you just jump right into it and fast for 2 days? How rough a start is it? I work and have young kids and worry about being angry and/or unfocussed.
2. If you fast for entire days or multiple days, do you also exercise? Only exercise on days you eat? Or don't exercise at all?
Thanks.
I've been fasting on and off for a couple of years doing 5:2. Yes, I jumped right in. My routine is coffee with cream in the morning, but nothing more until dinner. I drink a lot of water, have herbal tea, sometimes a cup of chicken bullion. For some reason salt seems to help on fasting days - I got headaches when I first started, and the chicken bullion helped a lot. I try to stay to 500 calories on fast days, so for me that is the coffee plus a dinner with lots and lots of vegetables and a piece of protein - chicken breast, an egg, something like that. If I have a few calories left over I'll have a few chocolate chips. During the rest of the week (my non-fast days) I eat the number of calories I can eat a day without gaining weight, which is about 1500 for me. I do most of my exercising (yoga, climbing wall, hiking, kayaking) on the weekends, and I eat normally on the weekends.
Part of what I had to get my head around was mental. I realize some people get dizzy and cranky when they are hungry, but I found I don't have to (but truly, people are different. IF is not a good fit for many people). When I started to see hunger as any other feeling in my body, and not an existential emergency I had to respond to, I stopped feeling so bad when I was hungry. I remind myself that people have always had times of hunger, and they didn't start swooning and hollering when they couldn't bring down a buffalo. They carried on. So basically I told myself to suck it up. Which works for me, but which isn't necessarily helpful for others!
This is disordered and unhealthy, period. Sure, it's a fad now, but it is NOT healthy by any means.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here. For those who have been doing IF, a couple questions...
1. Did you just jump right into it and fast for 2 days? How rough a start is it? I work and have young kids and worry about being angry and/or unfocussed.
2. If you fast for entire days or multiple days, do you also exercise? Only exercise on days you eat? Or don't exercise at all?
Thanks.
I've been fasting on and off for a couple of years doing 5:2. Yes, I jumped right in. My routine is coffee with cream in the morning, but nothing more until dinner. I drink a lot of water, have herbal tea, sometimes a cup of chicken bullion. For some reason salt seems to help on fasting days - I got headaches when I first started, and the chicken bullion helped a lot. I try to stay to 500 calories on fast days, so for me that is the coffee plus a dinner with lots and lots of vegetables and a piece of protein - chicken breast, an egg, something like that. If I have a few calories left over I'll have a few chocolate chips. During the rest of the week (my non-fast days) I eat the number of calories I can eat a day without gaining weight, which is about 1500 for me. I do most of my exercising (yoga, climbing wall, hiking, kayaking) on the weekends, and I eat normally on the weekends.
Part of what I had to get my head around was mental. I realize some people get dizzy and cranky when they are hungry, but I found I don't have to (but truly, people are different. IF is not a good fit for many people). When I started to see hunger as any other feeling in my body, and not an existential emergency I had to respond to, I stopped feeling so bad when I was hungry. I remind myself that people have always had times of hunger, and they didn't start swooning and hollering when they couldn't bring down a buffalo. They carried on. So basically I told myself to suck it up. Which works for me, but which isn't necessarily helpful for others!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here. For those who have been doing IF, a couple questions...
1. Did you just jump right into it and fast for 2 days? How rough a start is it? I work and have young kids and worry about being angry and/or unfocussed.
2. If you fast for entire days or multiple days, do you also exercise? Only exercise on days you eat? Or don't exercise at all?
Thanks.
I've been fasting on and off for a couple of years doing 5:2. Yes, I jumped right in. My routine is coffee with cream in the morning, but nothing more until dinner. I drink a lot of water, have herbal tea, sometimes a cup of chicken bullion. For some reason salt seems to help on fasting days - I got headaches when I first started, and the chicken bullion helped a lot. I try to stay to 500 calories on fast days, so for me that is the coffee plus a dinner with lots and lots of vegetables and a piece of protein - chicken breast, an egg, something like that. If I have a few calories left over I'll have a few chocolate chips. During the rest of the week (my non-fast days) I eat the number of calories I can eat a day without gaining weight, which is about 1500 for me. I do most of my exercising (yoga, climbing wall, hiking, kayaking) on the weekends, and I eat normally on the weekends.
Part of what I had to get my head around was mental. I realize some people get dizzy and cranky when they are hungry, but I found I don't have to (but truly, people are different. IF is not a good fit for many people). When I started to see hunger as any other feeling in my body, and not an existential emergency I had to respond to, I stopped feeling so bad when I was hungry. I remind myself that people have always had times of hunger, and they didn't start swooning and hollering when they couldn't bring down a buffalo. They carried on. So basically I told myself to suck it up. Which works for me, but which isn't necessarily helpful for others!
Anonymous wrote:NP here. For those who have been doing IF, a couple questions...
1. Did you just jump right into it and fast for 2 days? How rough a start is it? I work and have young kids and worry about being angry and/or unfocussed.
2. If you fast for entire days or multiple days, do you also exercise? Only exercise on days you eat? Or don't exercise at all?
Thanks.