Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 15:17     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Our neighborhood school in DC (near the MD line) is predominantly AA, and is an 8 on Greatschools. There are others too (e.g., the KIPP charters). There are a few majority minority schools that yield high scores out there.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 15:15     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
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Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


um look at America???

and to the few DCUM liberals on here you don't really want diverse school. You don't mind Asians or well behaving smart blacks and Latinos.
And after elementary you will change your tune really quick.


And it's not just white people. Blacks seek out other blacks. Hispanics congregate in communities with other Latinos. Entire neighborhoods spring up around ethnicities, particularly immigrant communities. These people aren't particularly interested in "diversity."


Ok, so are you saying you are in favor of segregated schools because segregation is some kind of rule of nature? Because we had that for 100 years or so and it did not work out well.



Actually, what we had was forced integration for about 40 years and that worked worse. All I'm saying is you are almost certainly white and you keep calling other white people racist and copping some superiority complex by your supposed commitment to diversity, but it's never ever occurred to you to even consider what minority communities want.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 15:11     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:

And it's not just white people. Blacks seek out other blacks. Hispanics congregate in communities with other Latinos. Entire neighborhoods spring up around ethnicities, particularly immigrant communities. These people aren't particularly interested in "diversity."


Segregation just naturally happens, like sunrise/sunset and the weather?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 15:10     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:

Sure. But it also means that "black people prefer schools where most people are black" and "Hispanic people prefer schools that are majority Hispanic."

All of this talk in busing in Arlington, for example, never even asks what people in Four Mile Run wanted -- it was just assumed that they would be overjoyed to put their children on a bus to Yorktown HS. And look at who made the assumptions. And the one time James Lander -- a black man, mind you -- raised the suggestion that minority communities might not be thrilled with busing, either, people lost their shit.


Well, yes, given the choice between a homogeneous school in your neighborhood or a heterogeneous school where your kids are bused across town to provide the diversity, most people are going to choose the homogeneous school in the neighborhood.

That doesn't mean that the people in Four Mile Run believe that segregated schools are dandy. It means that, given two bad choices, they're choosing the one they consider less bad.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:58     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


um look at America???

and to the few DCUM liberals on here you don't really want diverse school. You don't mind Asians or well behaving smart blacks and Latinos.
And after elementary you will change your tune really quick.


And it's not just white people. Blacks seek out other blacks. Hispanics congregate in communities with other Latinos. Entire neighborhoods spring up around ethnicities, particularly immigrant communities. These people aren't particularly interested in "diversity."


Ok, so are you saying you are in favor of segregated schools because segregation is some kind of rule of nature? Because we had that for 100 years or so and it did not work out well.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:57     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


Not PP, but says decades of social science research on why white people consider 10% kids of color to be the "tipping point."

HOWEVER, just because growing up in a deeply white supremacist society has made white people fear PoC does not mean we should give up on integration. We just need to try harder.


So "most people prefer racially homogeneous schools" actually means "white people prefer schools where most people are white"?


Sure. But it also means that "black people prefer schools where most people are black" and "Hispanic people prefer schools that are majority Hispanic."

All of this talk in busing in Arlington, for example, never even asks what people in Four Mile Run wanted -- it was just assumed that they would be overjoyed to put their children on a bus to Yorktown HS. And look at who made the assumptions. And the one time James Lander -- a black man, mind you -- raised the suggestion that minority communities might not be thrilled with busing, either, people lost their shit.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:55     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


um look at America???

and to the few DCUM liberals on here you don't really want diverse school. You don't mind Asians or well behaving smart blacks and Latinos.
And after elementary you will change your tune really quick.


And it's not just white people. Blacks seek out other blacks. Hispanics congregate in communities with other Latinos. Entire neighborhoods spring up around ethnicities, particularly immigrant communities. These people aren't particularly interested in "diversity."
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:52     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.

That is not true. I would like each class to reflect the diversity in society.


Except that society is largely homogenous, too.

I'm going to hazard a guess that you are an upper middle class white person, right? You think it's important to expose your child to diversity so your child learns something, right?

Try spending some time in a community of color. It might shock you to discover how much they prefer homogeneity. And they certainly don't regard white children as a learning tool for their precious little snowflakes.

Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:49     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


um look at America???

and to the few DCUM liberals on here you don't really want diverse school. You don't mind Asians or well behaving smart blacks and Latinos.
And after elementary you will change your tune really quick.


I really wish that random strangers on the Internet would stop telling me what I want.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:48     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


Not PP, but says decades of social science research on why white people consider 10% kids of color to be the "tipping point."

HOWEVER, just because growing up in a deeply white supremacist society has made white people fear PoC does not mean we should give up on integration. We just need to try harder.


So "most people prefer racially homogeneous schools" actually means "white people prefer schools where most people are white"?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:48     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


um look at America???

and to the few DCUM liberals on here you don't really want diverse school. You don't mind Asians or well behaving smart blacks and Latinos.
And after elementary you will change your tune really quick.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:47     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?


Not PP, but says decades of social science research on why white people consider 10% kids of color to be the "tipping point."

HOWEVER, just because growing up in a deeply white supremacist society has made white people fear PoC does not mean we should give up on integration. We just need to try harder.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:46     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.

That is not true. I would like each class to reflect the diversity in society.


you are one person most people want schools with kids like them and neighbors like them. Note this doesn't always mean race it can also mean SES level, politics, religion etc. People like being around people like them.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:43     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:

Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.


Says who?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:40     Subject: GreatSchools makes segregation easy!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people prefer racially homogenous schools, though.

That is not true. I would like each class to reflect the diversity in society.


Not true for us -- we chose an area with a diverse school