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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

Yes, but it is curious that he never tried to get citizenship. Must not bother him too much to be deported if he couldn't be bothered.

Also, I think the stories about him left out some details: domestic abuse charges, for one. DUI for another.

Nevertheless, why didn't he apply for citizenship? Seems simple enough. He was eligible.

Here is a newsflash - not all green card holder want to get citizenship. It is a choice and people should not be judged based on their choice which American laws allows. I applied my citizenship after 10 years of my greencard. I did not want to renew the GC, so I decided to apply for citizenship. No, I do not have anything in my past for which I can be deported, but who knows. But it is detrimental to the health of the country if only perfect angels are allowed to maintain legal residency. It is completely racist to hold first generation immigrants/citizens to a much higher standard than who is a 2nd generation citizen.

So this country has welcomed you with open arms and you have made your life here is an immigrant and now you cry racism against its inhabitants. Disgusting.

Yes I am allowed to question my country and it's inhabitants as much you are allowed to. I still live in a democracy and my country gives me that right. What is disgusting is you will close your eyes to inhuman and racist treatment of other immigrants after you are citizen of the country which is based on the principle of welcoming immigrants.

It's a privilege and not the right to become a citizen of this country. Earning the privilege assumes been held to a higher levels of responsibility. This country is not a dump, you know.
During my (and about 100 more peoples') naturalization ceremony one guy showed up with an unpaid parking violation ticket and was turned away. The judge told him to pay the fine and come back in six months.
It has nothing to do with Democracy, it's law and order.
I like it this way.

They let things come to a head getting right to the brink of a shutown and ONLY NOW they are realizing they should do something?

Good grief.

Anonymous wrote:Now they understand people really want to see some progress on this issue...

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/370316-emboldened-conservatives-press-ryan-to-bring-hard-right-immigration-bill-to

We are not facing a shortage of STEM-qualified workers. In fact, we appear to have a considerable STEM surplus. Only half of students graduating with a STEM degree are able to find STEM jobs. Beyond that, if there was an actual shortage of STEM workers, basic supply and demand would predict that the wages of STEM workers would be on the rise. Instead, wages in STEM fields have not budged in over a decade.

http://prospect.org/article/stem-shortage-myth


What’s perhaps most perplexing about the claim of a STEM worker shortage is that many studies have directly contradicted it, including reports from Duke University, the Rochester Institute of Technology, the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, and the Rand Corp. A 2004 Rand study, for example, stated that there was no evidence “that such shortages have existed at least since 1990, nor that they are on the horizon.”
That report argued that the best indicator of a shortfall would be a widespread rise in salaries throughout the STEM community. But the price of labor has not risen, as you would expect it to do if STEM workers were scarce.

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2013...of_the_stem_shortage_in_detail


So Many Degrees, So Little Demand - But he believes that STEM advocates, often executives and lobbyists for technology companies, do a disservice when they raise the alarm that America is facing a worrying shortfall of STEM workers, based on shortages in a relative handful of fast-growing fields like data analytics, artificial intelligence, cloud computing and computer security.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/education/edlif...tem-jobs-industry-careers.html

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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

Yes, but it is curious that he never tried to get citizenship. Must not bother him too much to be deported if he couldn't be bothered.

Also, I think the stories about him left out some details: domestic abuse charges, for one. DUI for another.

Nevertheless, why didn't he apply for citizenship? Seems simple enough. He was eligible.

Here is a newsflash - not all green card holder want to get citizenship. It is a choice and people should not be judged based on their choice which American laws allows. I applied my citizenship after 10 years of my greencard. I did not want to renew the GC, so I decided to apply for citizenship. No, I do not have anything in my past for which I can be deported, but who knows. But it is detrimental to the health of the country if only perfect angels are allowed to maintain legal residency. It is completely racist to hold first generation immigrants/citizens to a much higher standard than who is a 2nd generation citizen.

So this country has welcomed you with open arms and you have made your life here is an immigrant and now you cry racism against its inhabitants. Disgusting.

Yes I am allowed to question my country and it's inhabitants as much you are allowed to. I still live in a democracy and my country gives me that right. What is disgusting is you will close your eyes to inhuman and racist treatment of other immigrants after you are citizen of the country which is based on the principle of welcoming immigrants.

If you think this country was based on the principal of welcoming immigrants, you need to read the history of the early years of the republic.

Let’s do that:



Immigrants exhibit a large proportion of ingenious and valuable workmen. -Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson argued immigration was important, “a right which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice, has placed them.”

Ben Franklin said immigrants “contribute greatly to the improvement of a Country.”

“This freedom arises from that multiplicity of sects which pervades America.” -James Madison

“If there is a country in the world where concord... would be least expected, it is America. Made up as it is of people from different nations, accustomed to different forms and habits of government, speaking different languages, and more different in their modes of worship, it would appear that the union of such a people was impracticable...[but] if the government protects the equal rights of all, the parts are brought into cordial unison. -Thomas Paine

To be fair, like Trump, they were referring to white people. Slaves weren’t exactly “immigrants” or “guest workers.”

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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

Yes, but it is curious that he never tried to get citizenship. Must not bother him too much to be deported if he couldn't be bothered.

Also, I think the stories about him left out some details: domestic abuse charges, for one. DUI for another.

Nevertheless, why didn't he apply for citizenship? Seems simple enough. He was eligible.

Here is a newsflash - not all green card holder want to get citizenship. It is a choice and people should not be judged based on their choice which American laws allows. I applied my citizenship after 10 years of my greencard. I did not want to renew the GC, so I decided to apply for citizenship. No, I do not have anything in my past for which I can be deported, but who knows. But it is detrimental to the health of the country if only perfect angels are allowed to maintain legal residency. It is completely racist to hold first generation immigrants/citizens to a much higher standard than who is a 2nd generation citizen.

So this country has welcomed you with open arms and you have made your life here is an immigrant and now you cry racism against its inhabitants. Disgusting.

Yes I am allowed to question my country and it's inhabitants as much you are allowed to. I still live in a democracy and my country gives me that right. What is disgusting is you will close your eyes to inhuman and racist treatment of other immigrants after you are citizen of the country which is based on the principle of welcoming immigrants.

If you think this country was based on the principal of welcoming immigrants, you need to read the history of the early years of the republic.

“Principle” is the proper word. Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

2 incidents 25 years ago and a recent DUI and domestic violence charge. Your poster boy has quite a rap sheet it round out.

DUI was expunged. Acquitted of DV charge. Ever hear of due process and the rule of law?

Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

ICE is a rogue agency.

Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

2 incidents 25 years ago and a recent DUI and domestic violence charge. Your poster boy has quite a rap sheet it round out.

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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

Yes, but it is curious that he never tried to get citizenship. Must not bother him too much to be deported if he couldn't be bothered.

Also, I think the stories about him left out some details: domestic abuse charges, for one. DUI for another.

Nevertheless, why didn't he apply for citizenship? Seems simple enough. He was eligible.

Here is a newsflash - not all green card holder want to get citizenship. It is a choice and people should not be judged based on their choice which American laws allows. I applied my citizenship after 10 years of my greencard. I did not want to renew the GC, so I decided to apply for citizenship. No, I do not have anything in my past for which I can be deported, but who knows. But it is detrimental to the health of the country if only perfect angels are allowed to maintain legal residency. It is completely racist to hold first generation immigrants/citizens to a much higher standard than who is a 2nd generation citizen.

So this country has welcomed you with open arms and you have made your life here is an immigrant and now you cry racism against its inhabitants. Disgusting.

Yes I am allowed to question my country and it's inhabitants as much you are allowed to. I still live in a democracy and my country gives me that right. What is disgusting is you will close your eyes to inhuman and racist treatment of other immigrants after you are citizen of the country which is based on the principle of welcoming immigrants.

If you think this country was based on the principal of welcoming immigrants, you need to read the history of the early years of the republic.

Let’s do that:



Immigrants exhibit a large proportion of ingenious and valuable workmen. -Alexander Hamilton

Thomas Jefferson argued immigration was important, “a right which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice, has placed them.”

Ben Franklin said immigrants “contribute greatly to the improvement of a Country.”

“This freedom arises from that multiplicity of sects which pervades America.” -James Madison

“If there is a country in the world where concord... would be least expected, it is America. Made up as it is of people from different nations, accustomed to different forms and habits of government, speaking different languages, and more different in their modes of worship, it would appear that the union of such a people was impracticable...[but] if the government protects the equal rights of all, the parts are brought into cordial unison. -Thomas Paine

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Anonymous wrote:Great news. Will help feed the blue wave. Let the Republicans devour themselves.

And here you go, folks. Enforcing the immigration laws is a Republican goal. It is very telling that enforcing the law will cause Democrats to turn out for the midterm elections.

Only if it involves 7-11s and Greyhound busses. When we see them raiding big business and agriculture, I might believe this is something other than racism.

+1

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-farmers-trump/trump-reassures-farmers-immigration-crackdown-not-aimed-at-their-workers-idUSKCN18B1BB

"President Donald Trump said he would seek to keep his tough immigration enforcement policies from harming the U.S. farm industry and its largely immigrant workforce, according to farmers and officials who met with him. "

Again, if Rs were serious about rounding up illegal immigrants, all they would have to do is raid farms across America. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel. But no, they wouldn't dare hurt their base. Farmers overwhelmingly vote R and most use illegal immigrant labor.

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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

Yes, but it is curious that he never tried to get citizenship. Must not bother him too much to be deported if he couldn't be bothered.

Also, I think the stories about him left out some details: domestic abuse charges, for one. DUI for another.

Nevertheless, why didn't he apply for citizenship? Seems simple enough. He was eligible.

Here is a newsflash - not all green card holder want to get citizenship. It is a choice and people should not be judged based on their choice which American laws allows. I applied my citizenship after 10 years of my greencard. I did not want to renew the GC, so I decided to apply for citizenship. No, I do not have anything in my past for which I can be deported, but who knows. But it is detrimental to the health of the country if only perfect angels are allowed to maintain legal residency. It is completely racist to hold first generation immigrants/citizens to a much higher standard than who is a 2nd generation citizen.

So this country has welcomed you with open arms and you have made your life here is an immigrant and now you cry racism against its inhabitants. Disgusting.

Yes I am allowed to question my country and it's inhabitants as much you are allowed to. I still live in a democracy and my country gives me that right. What is disgusting is you will close your eyes to inhuman and racist treatment of other immigrants after you are citizen of the country which is based on the principle of welcoming immigrants.

If you think this country was based on the principal of welcoming immigrants, you need to read the history of the early years of the republic.

Like this thought from GW1 (2 December, 1783)

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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

Yes, but it is curious that he never tried to get citizenship. Must not bother him too much to be deported if he couldn't be bothered.

Also, I think the stories about him left out some details: domestic abuse charges, for one. DUI for another.

Nevertheless, why didn't he apply for citizenship? Seems simple enough. He was eligible.

Here is a newsflash - not all green card holder want to get citizenship. It is a choice and people should not be judged based on their choice which American laws allows. I applied my citizenship after 10 years of my greencard. I did not want to renew the GC, so I decided to apply for citizenship. No, I do not have anything in my past for which I can be deported, but who knows. But it is detrimental to the health of the country if only perfect angels are allowed to maintain legal residency. It is completely racist to hold first generation immigrants/citizens to a much higher standard than who is a 2nd generation citizen.

So this country has welcomed you with open arms and you have made your life here is an immigrant and now you cry racism against its inhabitants. Disgusting.

DP.. freedom of speech applies to all Americans, not just "real" ones who are more than 2nd generation. You think only 2nd generation Americans and beyond have the right to criticize this country?

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Anonymous wrote:When a 45 year old doctor who has lived in the US since 1979 is threatened with deportation because of an incident that happened 25 years ago, it is a sign that something is amock with the immigration system.

Yes, but it is curious that he never tried to get citizenship. Must not bother him too much to be deported if he couldn't be bothered.

Also, I think the stories about him left out some details: domestic abuse charges, for one. DUI for another.

Nevertheless, why didn't he apply for citizenship? Seems simple enough. He was eligible.

Here is a newsflash - not all green card holder want to get citizenship. It is a choice and people should not be judged based on their choice which American laws allows. I applied my citizenship after 10 years of my greencard. I did not want to renew the GC, so I decided to apply for citizenship. No, I do not have anything in my past for which I can be deported, but who knows. But it is detrimental to the health of the country if only perfect angels are allowed to maintain legal residency. It is completely racist to hold first generation immigrants/citizens to a much higher standard than who is a 2nd generation citizen.

So this country has welcomed you with open arms and you have made your life here is an immigrant and now you cry racism against its inhabitants. Disgusting.

Yes I am allowed to question my country and it's inhabitants as much you are allowed to. I still live in a democracy and my country gives me that right. What is disgusting is you will close your eyes to inhuman and racist treatment of other immigrants after you are citizen of the country which is based on the principle of welcoming immigrants.

If you think this country was based on the principal of welcoming immigrants, you need to read the history of the early years of the republic.

Anonymous wrote:The legislation would provide DACA recipients with a temporary, three-year legal status that could be renewed indefinitely, but not a path to citizenship, as outlined in a plan pitched by Sens. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

The House measure would authorize $30 billion to build a border wall and invest in other border security measures, end family-based immigration and eliminate the diversity visa lottery program — all of which were pillars outlined at a White House meeting earlier this month.

such simple progressive concepts. why have democrats abandoned the american worker?

It's a starting point--unlike the progressives who want a "Clean DACA"--amnesty for Dreamers and their families and nothing else. No border wall, security, changes in immigration policy. That's where Chuckie stands right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Great news. Will help feed the blue wave. Let the Republicans devour themselves.

And here you go, folks. Enforcing the immigration laws is a Republican goal. It is very telling that enforcing the law will cause Democrats to turn out for the midterm elections.

Only if it involves 7-11s and Greyhound busses. When we see them raiding big business and agriculture, I might believe this is something other than racism.