Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 13:13     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:Cover their mouths too! Ice cold air not good for the lungs.


Well, this isn't true at all! I'm Danish, and we know that cold air helps babies develop their lungs. Well, I guess we could be wrong, but it certainly isn't' bad for them. But covering an infant's mouth with a blanket is, in fact, proven to be dangerous.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 13:01     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:
Elementary-age neighbor kids were outside playing WITHOUT A COAT yesterday.
Their parent is of the opinion that kids are responsible for their thermal regulation, apparently...






I am of that opinion. Especially when they are basically home, so they can come inside or grab a coat easily if they change their minds. They know what a coat is and how it works. They know if they are cold. They can figure it out themselves.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 12:59     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:
Elementary-age neighbor kids were outside playing WITHOUT A COAT yesterday.
Their parent is of the opinion that kids are responsible for their thermal regulation, apparently...



They weren't my kids but very easily could have been. Elementary-aged children are, in fact, capable of determining if they are too hot or too cold. On days when they question whether it's worth wearing a coat I make them go outside and check the weather and determine that for themselves. I have one kid who runs very hot and another who runs cool. They know their own bodies and comfort level.

Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 12:56     Subject: Re:Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The hysteria over this weather is mind blowing. Some of you seriously must have an anxiety disorder.


+1

And then they're projecting their anxiety on other people.

There's a difference between it being cold, feeling a little cold, and downright negligence. With the proper clothing, it's fine to go outside. No one's suggesting going outside naked for 6 hours.


+1

"OMG, Larla's cheeks were red from the cold and wind! Call 9-1-1!!"
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 11:32     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite

Elementary-age neighbor kids were outside playing WITHOUT A COAT yesterday.
Their parent is of the opinion that kids are responsible for their thermal regulation, apparently...




Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 11:31     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:Cover their mouths too! Ice cold air not good for the lungs.


Ummm tell me this a joke
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 11:25     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had my kids out in the mountains of PA all last week in subzero wind chills. They were perfectly fine in wool socks, lined boots, snow pants, warm clothing, parkas, ski gloves, and hats + hoods plus "vaselined" faces. They were seriously "swimming" in the snow and I had to drag them inside.

BUT I work with young children EOTR and have seen several this morning in flimsy windbreakers, cotton stretch gloves and lightweight hats. Yes, we regularly get cold weather in DC but it is also often relatively mild in the winter, and many children do not have appropriate clothing for the weather.


Then you layer - a shirt, followed by sweater, followed by hoodie, followed by whatever coat you have.


No, YOU layer. That's the point.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 11:02     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:I had my kids out in the mountains of PA all last week in subzero wind chills. They were perfectly fine in wool socks, lined boots, snow pants, warm clothing, parkas, ski gloves, and hats + hoods plus "vaselined" faces. They were seriously "swimming" in the snow and I had to drag them inside.

BUT I work with young children EOTR and have seen several this morning in flimsy windbreakers, cotton stretch gloves and lightweight hats. Yes, we regularly get cold weather in DC but it is also often relatively mild in the winter, and many children do not have appropriate clothing for the weather.


Then you layer - a shirt, followed by sweater, followed by hoodie, followed by whatever coat you have.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 10:52     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
I saw a high school student walking to school this AM in SHORTS. A girl, in flimsy nylon athletic shorts. And a sweatshirt. That's it.

That's teen rebellion at it's finest.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 10:49     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:They are predicting -10F wind chills today. According to the NWS, that is NOT within the risk range for frostbite (or at least, it would take longer than 30 min for frostbite to set in).

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/cold/wind_chill.shtml

Did you know that certain meds (or other conditions) can make you more susceptible to frostbite?
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 09:22     Subject: Re:Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The hysteria over this weather is mind blowing. Some of you seriously must have an anxiety disorder.

What do you know about frostbite? Zip?


Unless there is ice repeatedly in contact with your kids’ skin odds are the kid is fine. I seriously doubt any kids in this area are going to turn up with black frost bite patches anytime soon - unless they are prone to laying in the snow for long periods of time naked. It is not even that cold.


That's the point of this thread. At these temperatures with wind, children don't need to be in contact with ice to get frostbite.

Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 09:02     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:They are predicting -10F wind chills today. According to the NWS, that is NOT within the risk range for frostbite (or at least, it would take longer than 30 min for frostbite to set in).

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/cold/wind_chill.shtml


Also, this chart is based on a clear NIGHT sky. "Bright sunshine may increase the wind chill temperature by 10°F to 18°F."

So limit your outdoor exposure to 30min at a time today, and you're fine.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 08:59     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
They are predicting -10F wind chills today. According to the NWS, that is NOT within the risk range for frostbite (or at least, it would take longer than 30 min for frostbite to set in).

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/cold/wind_chill.shtml
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 08:54     Subject: Re:Watch your kids for frostbite
Isn’t there a Zika crisis for you folks to be obsessing over?
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2018 08:51     Subject: Watch your kids for frostbite
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cover their mouths too! Ice cold air not good for the lungs.


Omg. I went for a 7 mile fun yesterday and I can tell you that my lungs found it quite refreshing.
In other countries they send the kids out in the cold starting very young as it builds a strong healthy immune system.


I've been running almost every day for the past 10 days, and I agree, it feels great in my lungs. Some people do well in cold air. Humid air makes me feel like I can't breathe, but very cold air? Feels great, and like I can breathe much better.

I think some people just need something to freak out about and be paranoid about - it gives them a sense of order and control. Different strokes for different folks.