They say that Trump supporters are uneducated and ignorant.

This thread and some of the liberals posting shows that there are quite a few liberals who are just as uninformed.

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Anonymous wrote:nah, Obama may have been Kenyan (lol) but he wasn't a crazy idiot. Trump needs to go.

You can try and remove him in 2020 and if that does not work, you don't have to worry about having to run against him in 2024.

I have a great suggestion for a New Year's Resolution for you: be an American this year. Try it. He commit treason. He has dementia. He's laundered money. He's threatening nuclear war, just cause. Be an American and not just a stupid Republican.

I am a liberal ..... but I am not an irrational, hysterical liberal. I am realistic and am pretty sure he is going to be around until 2020 and unless we offer a viable candidate in 2020 there is a distinct possibility that we'll end up with Trump until 2024.

You may be a liberal, but you're kind of a jerk. I'm not irrational or hysterical. He cheated to "win." With Russia. He literally has dementia. If neither of those things gives you small pause, re-evaluate your beliefs.

You are an idiot. You are not going to get him out of office before 2020. You can go on ranting about Putin and Russia and dementia and other crap. Wishful thinking will not get Trump removed.

There is a thing called the Constitution and there are two ways to remove him from office: impeachment and the 25th Amendment. You can impeach him if the Democrats take control of the House but you need 67 votes in the senate to remove him from office and that is not going to happen.

To use the 25th Amendment there are whole bunch of hurdles to overcome - read about it rather than spewing nonsense. It is a high hurdle to meet - and rightly so because the intention was to allow it to happen in only rare instances.

In fact, here it is for you:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office

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Anonymous wrote:nah, Obama may have been Kenyan (lol) but he wasn't a crazy idiot. Trump needs to go.

You can try and remove him in 2020 and if that does not work, you don't have to worry about having to run against him in 2024.

I have a great suggestion for a New Year's Resolution for you: be an American this year. Try it. He commit treason. He has dementia. He's laundered money. He's threatening nuclear war, just cause. Be an American and not just a stupid Republican.

I am a liberal ..... but I am not an irrational, hysterical liberal. I am realistic and am pretty sure he is going to be around until 2020 and unless we offer a viable candidate in 2020 there is a distinct possibility that we'll end up with Trump until 2024.

You may be a liberal, but you're kind of a jerk. I'm not irrational or hysterical. He cheated to "win." With Russia. He literally has dementia. If neither of those things gives you small pause, re-evaluate your beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:nah, Obama may have been Kenyan (lol) but he wasn't a crazy idiot. Trump needs to go.

You can try and remove him in 2020 and if that does not work, you don't have to worry about having to run against him in 2024.

I have a great suggestion for a New Year's Resolution for you: be an American this year. Try it. He commit treason. He has dementia. He's laundered money. He's threatening nuclear war, just cause. Be an American and not just a stupid Republican.

I am a liberal ..... but I am not an irrational, hysterical liberal. I am realistic and am pretty sure he is going to be around until 2020 and unless we offer a viable candidate in 2020 there is a distinct possibility that we'll end up with Trump until 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:nah, Obama may have been Kenyan (lol) but he wasn't a crazy idiot. Trump needs to go.

You can try and remove him in 2020 and if that does not work, you don't have to worry about having to run against him in 2024.

I have a great suggestion for a New Year's Resolution for you: be an American this year. Try it. He commit treason. He has dementia. He's laundered money. He's threatening nuclear war, just cause. Be an American and not just a stupid Republican.

Anonymous wrote:nah, Obama may have been Kenyan (lol) but he wasn't a crazy idiot. Trump needs to go.

You can try and remove him in 2020 and if that does not work, you don't have to worry about having to run against him in 2024.

Anonymous wrote:These are probably the same Democrats that relied on military advice from Cindy Sheehan over a decade ago.

Turns out Cindy Sheehan was right about what a monumental mess and mistake it was to go into Iraq so she's a more reliable source of military advice than anyone on the right.

nah, Obama may have been Kenyan (lol) but he wasn't a crazy idiot. Trump needs to go.

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Anonymous wrote:The complicit GOP and their Koch handlers are likely doing backflips that Trump is so stupid + easy to manipulate and manage. The traitors in Congress will do nothing and will have blood on their hands once we enter military conflict, which is inevitable with this nut-ball in office.

+1

This is why people who previously hated him, like the Kochs and the Mercers, finally gave in and bankrolled him. They can see a stupid, easily controlled puppet when they see one, and its to their advantage. No one will do anything to remove him b/c all the politicians are beholden to this kind of money.

VOTE for people who aren't partisan POS either way. It is the only thing that can save us.

Liberals should make up their minds about impeaching/removing Trump from office. If Republicans won't support the effort it won't happen. So, are Republicans going to keep him in office because he is "a stupid, easily controlled puppet"? If so, may be Democrats should forget about impeaching him, etc and focus on winning elections.

Remember Democrats have been on this relentless slide since 2008 and have lost control of all branches of the government quite apart from state legislatures and governorships. It has been an unmitigated disaster.

And yet, we have liberal nuts going on about removing Trump from office and in the next breath saying how the Kochs and Mercers and others think he is easily malleable.

“Liberals” is always comprised of many factions. The impeach Trump faction, the 25th Amendment faction, and the prison faction but all operate under the belief Trump needs to go and he isn’t good for the Country.

Don't I know it! Believing that Trump needs to go is not an issue - after all, there were Republicans who felt that Obama was ruinous or was incompetent or that he was dishonest. But the way to deal with this is to defeat the other side in elections. To keep talking of removing Trump when Democrats know that they cannot get Republican support to do it, is futile and makes liberals who advocate it sound like a bunch of loonies - actually not unlike those "birthers" who felt that Obama was born in Kenya and therefore need to be removed.

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Anonymous wrote:The complicit GOP and their Koch handlers are likely doing backflips that Trump is so stupid + easy to manipulate and manage. The traitors in Congress will do nothing and will have blood on their hands once we enter military conflict, which is inevitable with this nut-ball in office.

+1

This is why people who previously hated him, like the Kochs and the Mercers, finally gave in and bankrolled him. They can see a stupid, easily controlled puppet when they see one, and its to their advantage. No one will do anything to remove him b/c all the politicians are beholden to this kind of money.

VOTE for people who aren't partisan POS either way. It is the only thing that can save us.

Liberals should make up their minds about impeaching/removing Trump from office. If Republicans won't support the effort it won't happen. So, are Republicans going to keep him in office because he is "a stupid, easily controlled puppet"? If so, may be Democrats should forget about impeaching him, etc and focus on winning elections.

Remember Democrats have been on this relentless slide since 2008 and have lost control of all branches of the government quite apart from state legislatures and governorships. It has been an unmitigated disaster.

And yet, we have liberal nuts going on about removing Trump from office and in the next breath saying how the Kochs and Mercers and others think he is easily malleable.

1. He is malleable and he isn't. They can get what they want on taxes and regs, because he doesn't really care about any of that. They can't get him to stop tweeting like a loon, because he DOES care about that.

2. Whether impeachment (and, harder, conviction) are possible, depends on both the partisan make up of congress, and what more comes out. McConnell likes passing tax cuts, but he does not want to hurt the GOP brand for years out. How harmful it is to keep DJT, and to vote against conviction, depends on what evidence is actually presented

3. Even if conviction is not possible, those no votes may still be harmful to the GOP, and so forcing that vote may help the Dems. I don't think we are there yet though.

4. The turnaround in electoral fortunes went on throughout 2017. We should of course continue to focus on winning elections.

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Anonymous wrote:The complicit GOP and their Koch handlers are likely doing backflips that Trump is so stupid + easy to manipulate and manage. The traitors in Congress will do nothing and will have blood on their hands once we enter military conflict, which is inevitable with this nut-ball in office.

+1

This is why people who previously hated him, like the Kochs and the Mercers, finally gave in and bankrolled him. They can see a stupid, easily controlled puppet when they see one, and its to their advantage. No one will do anything to remove him b/c all the politicians are beholden to this kind of money.

VOTE for people who aren't partisan POS either way. It is the only thing that can save us.

Liberals should make up their minds about impeaching/removing Trump from office. If Republicans won't support the effort it won't happen. So, are Republicans going to keep him in office because he is "a stupid, easily controlled puppet"? If so, may be Democrats should forget about impeaching him, etc and focus on winning elections.

Remember Democrats have been on this relentless slide since 2008 and have lost control of all branches of the government quite apart from state legislatures and governorships. It has been an unmitigated disaster.

And yet, we have liberal nuts going on about removing Trump from office and in the next breath saying how the Kochs and Mercers and others think he is easily malleable.

“Liberals” is always comprised of many factions. The impeach Trump faction, the 25th Amendment faction, and the prison faction but all operate under the belief Trump needs to go and he isn’t good for the Country.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The complicit GOP and their Koch handlers are likely doing backflips that Trump is so stupid + easy to manipulate and manage. The traitors in Congress will do nothing and will have blood on their hands once we enter military conflict, which is inevitable with this nut-ball in office.

+1

This is why people who previously hated him, like the Kochs and the Mercers, finally gave in and bankrolled him. They can see a stupid, easily controlled puppet when they see one, and its to their advantage. No one will do anything to remove him b/c all the politicians are beholden to this kind of money.

VOTE for people who aren't partisan POS either way. It is the only thing that can save us.

Liberals should make up their minds about impeaching/removing Trump from office. If Republicans won't support the effort it won't happen. So, are Republicans going to keep him in office because he is "a stupid, easily controlled puppet"? If so, may be Democrats should forget about impeaching him, etc and focus on winning elections.

Remember Democrats have been on this relentless slide since 2008 and have lost control of all branches of the government quite apart from state legislatures and governorships. It has been an unmitigated disaster.

And yet, we have liberal nuts going on about removing Trump from office and in the next breath saying how the Kochs and Mercers and others think he is easily malleable.

These are probably the same Democrats that relied on military advice from Cindy Sheehan over a decade ago.

Anonymous wrote:The complicit GOP and their Koch handlers are likely doing backflips that Trump is so stupid + easy to manipulate and manage. The traitors in Congress will do nothing and will have blood on their hands once we enter military conflict, which is inevitable with this nut-ball in office.

+1

This is why people who previously hated him, like the Kochs and the Mercers, finally gave in and bankrolled him. They can see a stupid, easily controlled puppet when they see one, and its to their advantage. No one will do anything to remove him b/c all the politicians are beholden to this kind of money.

VOTE for people who aren't partisan POS either way. It is the only thing that can save us.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone looked at Bandy Lee's credentials?

First, she is an Assistant Clinical Professor at Yale - usually there are a couple of levels above this on the tenured track: Associate Professor and Professor.

But more to the point: her credentials have nothing to do with what she has opined on. This is what the Yale Department of Psychiatry says about her:

Dr. Bandy Lee is an internationally recognized expert on violence.

She served as Director of Research for the Center for the Study of Violence (Harvard, U. Penn., N.Y.U., and Yale), co-founded Yale’s Violence and Health Study Group (MacMillan Center for International Studies), and leads a project group for the World Health Organization’s Violence Prevention Alliance. She has consulted with the governments of Ireland and France, as well as California, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New York on violence prevention programming in prisons and in the community. She played a key role in initiating reforms at Rikers Island, New York City’s correctional facility known for extreme levels of violence. She has been teaching students studying to be public defenders and to become asylum attorneys at Yale Law School since 2003, and a Global Health Studies course of her design, “Violence: Causes and Cures,” since 2013.

"Violence prevention" seems to be her area of expertise. Could not the Democrats have found someone with better credentials to brief them on Trump's mental stability?

She is a Voluntary (Clinical) Faculty. Yale doesn't pay her any salary. Is she practicing somewhere? What is her full time job then?

Perhaps it is doing meaningless briefings to Democratic lawmakers telling them what they want to hear. I wonder how much she got paid to do this briefing.