Anonymous
12/04/2017 14:37
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PS to above:
Sometimes calories are also an issue. Maybe not for competitive athletes, but they certainly can add up.
Ounce for ounce, skim milk has about the same calories as regular Coke.
12 oz can of CocaCola = 140 kcal
12oz of skim milk = about 135 kcal
So to avoid getting fat, teens should live on what? Diet coke and vitamins, maybe some celery for a treat?
Skim milk has calcium, protein, Vitamins A and D. Organic goats milk may not have A and D added, and it may not be skim. Nonetheless the protein and possible fat in milk will contribute to satiety in a way that Coca Cola won't.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21335996/
There's a reason why Dairy is listed as a food group. There are necessary nutrients found in dairy products (yes, they can be found in alternative sources, but it's harder). I have yet to see a nutritional guideline with a CocaCola food group.
I agree that Americans (including myself) have a weight problem and that this problem extends into the teen population. The answer is to eat sensibly (more nutrition rich foods, fewer EMPTY calories), eat less (satisfy hunger, not appetite), and be more active. If your teen is overweight, then take away her Coca Cola. Take away french fries and chocolate. But to limit skim milk as a diet strategy seems not only counterproductive, but generally unhealthy.
I am the person you quoted, and I cannot tell what you are arguing against. "Sometimes calories are an issue." Yes, for some kids, they are. Not for other kids. (?)
I still have to see you or anyone else respond to the anemia issue, unless I missed it. It's a known potential consequence of too high a dairy intake, and the AAP has identified anemia as a growing problem for teenagers.
I'm not against milk. I am against the idea that drinking excessive amounts can't hurt you. That's because it's my job to talk about these things with families.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 17:57
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
Who is the intended group for cow’s or Goat’s milk? Teenagers? No, baby cows and baby goats. My BIL is a pediatrician. He is not anti-diary by any means, but he believes teenagers should eat healthy food and not just fill up on milk.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 13:00
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
Anonymous wrote:PS to above:
Sometimes calories are also an issue. Maybe not for competitive athletes, but they certainly can add up.
Ounce for ounce, skim milk has about the same calories as regular Coke.
12 oz can of CocaCola = 140 kcal
12oz of skim milk = about 135 kcal
So to avoid getting fat, teens should live on what? Diet coke and vitamins, maybe some celery for a treat?
Skim milk has calcium, protein, Vitamins A and D. Organic goats milk may not have A and D added, and it may not be skim. Nonetheless the protein and possible fat in milk will contribute to satiety in a way that Coca Cola won't.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21335996/
There's a reason why Dairy is listed as a food group. There are necessary nutrients found in dairy products (yes, they can be found in alternative sources, but it's harder). I have yet to see a nutritional guideline with a CocaCola food group.
I agree that Americans (including myself) have a weight problem and that this problem extends into the teen population. The answer is to eat sensibly (more nutrition rich foods, fewer EMPTY calories), eat less (satisfy hunger, not appetite), and be more active. If your teen is overweight, then take away her Coca Cola. Take away french fries and chocolate. But to limit skim milk as a diet strategy seems not only counterproductive, but generally unhealthy.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:13
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Buy one gallon a week. Once it's gone it's gone until next week.
If they want more they are free to use their allowances.
Wow, its milk...
And it's non essential.
Not a single food item is essential. Broccoli, Beef, green beans, and turnips...all non essentials.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 12:10
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
Who measures in ounces their teens drinking of milk?
Jesus. I buy 3 gallons a week. That's what my kids go through. If i were running out Id buy 4. Its yiur choice/problem if you've started the goats milk nonsense.
Jesus. I buy 3 gallons a week. That's what my kids go through. If i were running out Id buy 4. Its yiur choice/problem if you've started the goats milk nonsense.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 10:36
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
A lot of teen girls crave milk, which is a good thing since the teen years are when women can be absorbing more calcium into their bones than when they are older. Drinking a lot of milk now can improve your daughter's chances of avoiding osteoporosis later.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 10:29
Subject: Re:milk consumption for teenager
... thank goodness they get good grades 
Anonymous
12/03/2017 10:26
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
My 2 kids (13 and 15) go through 5 gallons of 1% milk a week.
They are not drinking soda
They are not drinking caffeine
They are not drinking gatorade
My kids are healthy, active, not overweight and get good grades.
They are not drinking soda
They are not drinking caffeine
They are not drinking gatorade
My kids are healthy, active, not overweight and get good grades.
Anonymous
12/03/2017 10:03
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
PS to above:
Sometimes calories are also an issue. Maybe not for competitive athletes, but they certainly can add up.
Ounce for ounce, skim milk has about the same calories as regular Coke.
12 oz can of CocaCola = 140 kcal
12oz of skim milk = about 135 kcal
Sometimes calories are also an issue. Maybe not for competitive athletes, but they certainly can add up.
Ounce for ounce, skim milk has about the same calories as regular Coke.
12 oz can of CocaCola = 140 kcal
12oz of skim milk = about 135 kcal
Anonymous
12/02/2017 18:56
Subject: Re:milk consumption for teenager
Don't forget that high levels of casein and calcium each can block the absorption of iron.
"Milk=associated iron deficiency anemia" is a real diagnosis. We think of it more commonly with toddlers drinking too much milk, but the AAP notes that teenagers are also prone to anemia. https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/chronic/Pages/Anemia-and-Your-Child.aspx
The propensity to anemia is exacerbated by menstuation, for girls.
"Milk=associated iron deficiency anemia" is a real diagnosis. We think of it more commonly with toddlers drinking too much milk, but the AAP notes that teenagers are also prone to anemia. https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/chronic/Pages/Anemia-and-Your-Child.aspx
The propensity to anemia is exacerbated by menstuation, for girls.
Anonymous
12/02/2017 18:55
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
2 teens. We go through, roughly, a gallon a day. Teens drink most of it, DH & I use about a cup.
Anonymous
12/02/2017 18:50
Subject: Re:milk consumption for teenager
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised they aren't constantly constipated!
And/or covered in acne
Why would they be covered in acne?
Dairy products are highly acnegenic. American dermatologists generally insist that dairy has nothing to do with acne, probably because they get practically zero nutritional education in medical school and acne is good for business.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194824
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=22386050
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22898209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19709092
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15692464
Anonymous
12/02/2017 17:41
Subject: Re:milk consumption for teenager
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think there is a particular amount of milk that a teen "should" be drinking. I stopped measuring my kids' ounces of milk per day by age 3 and neither of them likes milk now unless it's in a latte or something.. Give them a calcium supplement, some water, and another source of calories if you don't want to buy a gallon of goat milk every day.
+1
There is nothing magical about milk, other than the dairy industry lobby's success in promoting it as "essential."
For us it has protein and calcium. My son is a vegetarian. He'll eat some soy - tofu and veggie nuggets but you don't want too much soy. For my child it makes sense. He will not eat yogurt.
Anonymous
12/02/2017 17:41
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
Get a goat. They can suckle its teats whenever they want!
Anonymous
12/02/2017 17:40
Subject: milk consumption for teenager
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you're concerned about them getting enough calcium given their competitive swimming, check with your pediatrician. My 15 year old boy goes to half a gallon of milk a day, and why would I stop him? I get the organic milk from Costco, not sure it's any cheaper but I buy a lot of it at a time and store it in the basement frigerator. You should see the looks I get at the checkoutwhen I have 7 cartons (3 1/2 gallons each, total 10.5 gallons)!
Costco sells 3 64oz cartons or Kirkland Organic for $9.99 ($3.33 for 64oz). Myenberg goat milk, 32oz for $3.54, costs more than twice of organic cow milk.
Is goat milk more superior than cow milk? My sister is a certified nutritionist and she works with many professioinal atheletes. She said that Goat’s milk matches up to the human body better than cow’s milk. She mentioned that goat milk is naturally homogenized while cow milk goes through a dairy industry utilizes a process called homogenization. Her advice is to drink goat milk if we can afford it because just about all professional athletes avoid cow milk.
I place a glass of goat milk and a glass of cow milk in the fridge over night. In the mornig, this is what I see:
- the goat’s milk looks exactly the same
- the cow’s milk has separated into cream on the top and skim milk at the bottom (according to my sister it is because of homogenization and cause a host of problems in the body not the least of which is DNA mutations which often lead to cancer
thoughts?
Costco's prices have gone up.