Anonymous wrote:The victim herself probably wouldn't even want him to spend that long in prison. That's awful. That's practically the bulk of his life. He'll be an old man when he gets out. So sad.

Oh, that is so sad.... A scuzzy scumbag rapes and kills a nice person, because, um... why not? Fun's fun, eh? Maybe he should be in therapy instead, maybe something with pottery...

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish Reagan hadn't decimated the mental hospitals.

It was the very liberal American Psychiatric Association who lobbied Reagan to deinstitutionalize the mentally ill. The argument was that they would do better and integrate into normal society

This epic fail is now responsible for much of the homeless drug, and poverty problems in the States. Sad though it is, there are people who are a threat to themselves and others. They need to be removed and warehoused.

No, honestly liberals. What do you say to this? You are the reason. You.

Exactly this. Exactly!

Prior to pshrinks convincing Reagan that crazy people should be allowed to go about unfettered anywhere they want to share the products of their insanity with everyone, these people were kept in places where they couldn't harm anyone.

Anonymous wrote:I just wish Reagan hadn't decimated the mental hospitals.

It was the very liberal American Psychiatric Association who lobbied Reagan to deinstitutionalize the mentally ill. The argument was that they would do better and integrate into normal society

This epic fail is now responsible for much of the homeless drug, and poverty problems in the States. Sad though it is, there are people who are a threat to themselves and others. They need to be removed and warehoused.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't lock them up.

When someone gets a life sentence over there, they go to prison for a few years, and then when family or people on the outside stop contact with them, they quietly get "disappeared" and are never seen again.

Well...I really don't find a problem if this guy finds redemption in prison, but there's zero need for him to be out wandering again. I'm sorry that we don't have better preventive mental health care in this country and we should work as a society on that, but I truly don't believe in 'rehab' once you've raped/murdered. There's something about sex crimes that seems immune to therapy and treatment. It's just a bad urge and better to keep separate from society.

Crimes escalate - that 'harmless' peeper or 'harmless' exhibitionist stops feeling a thrill and moves on to more aggressive behavior. Sex crimes are about power - usually that's due to a sociopathic or narcissistic personality disorder. Those are notoriously difficult to treat.

Yes. It's happened 3 times in my life ( as a child, and once TOTALLY unexpectedly as an adult in the old Barnes and Nobles in Georgetown) that I've been "flashed". Thankfully not raped, assaulted or anything further. I've seen many dicks as a consenting adult but it's so bizarre and so about power to see a stranger dick out of context, not consenting. The first two times (as a child) I froze, though the second time I told mom and ended up at the police station looking at mug shots as a 10 yr old and AGONIZING that I would finger the wrong person. The 3rd time, as a grown woman combing the mystery stacks in B & N and sitting down to read the back of a book and looking up to see a nasty dick being stroked 5 feet away, I got up, moved to safety and told my husband and a clerk. Then THEY BOTH froze. FUCK! They stared as dickface rode the elevator down and out of the store. Sex crmes are so weird. My spouse is a trained combat veteran. I myself always swore I would act! It is so freaking hard to catch these people because it is always so freaking unexpected and bizarre. We were Xmas shopping. So one rapes and kills and is caught with the proverbial blood on their hands. I am a Christian, but bye bye. There were so many stops along the way when they could have been helped/ could have demanded help. At this point, Bible study by yourself and find redemption. But on your own. Not with the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't lock them up.

When someone gets a life sentence over there, they go to prison for a few years, and then when family or people on the outside stop contact with them, they quietly get "disappeared" and are never seen again.

Well...I really don't find a problem if this guy finds redemption in prison, but there's zero need for him to be out wandering again. I'm sorry that we don't have better preventive mental health care in this country and we should work as a society on that, but I truly don't believe in 'rehab' once you've raped/murdered. There's something about sex crimes that seems immune to therapy and treatment. It's just a bad urge and better to keep separate from society.

Crimes escalate - that 'harmless' peeper or 'harmless' exhibitionist stops feeling a thrill and moves on to more aggressive behavior. Sex crimes are about power - usually that's due to a sociopathic or narcissistic personality disorder. Those are notoriously difficult to treat.

Anonymous wrote:I may be an outlier, but 30 years is a super long time. I think as a country we need to evaluate the length of sentences. After time people are not even the same as who they used to be.

No. Death is a 'super long time'. You do realize that people who kill get out and go on to kill again, right? Not because 'the system' made them that way, but because, they are wired that way. Did you know that most serial killers end up being arrested in death penalty states? As they decompose into disordered thinking, the little rational part left realizes they must be stopped - that they want to be stopped.

Anonymous wrote:I just wish Reagan hadn't decimated the mental hospitals.

Did the decimation of mental hospitals not happen before Reagan as part of the liberal/patient rights push as a reaction to true abuses in institutionalization? My mom had a lovely Ivy League college friend who became increasingly mentally ill and who was released into the streets due to this push and was murdered while living homeless by Union Station in the 70s. That would be pre-Reagan. It's time for both parties to recognize that as a nation we went too far in both providing for only elective mental health (the liberals) and not funding mental health for those who seek it (both parties I'd say) and look at ways to commit those who are a harm to themselves and others, and treat those who seek it.

I just wish Reagan hadn't decimated the mental hospitals.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't lock them up.

When someone gets a life sentence over there, they go to prison for a few years, and then when family or people on the outside stop contact with them, they quietly get "disappeared" and are never seen again.

Good idea

I've traveled extensively in the GCC and there's something to be said for low crime. It feels wonderful to walk, sleep, go about your business in an extremely low crime society.

Anonymous wrote:They don't lock them up.

When someone gets a life sentence over there, they go to prison for a few years, and then when family or people on the outside stop contact with them, they quietly get "disappeared" and are never seen again.

Good idea

Anonymous wrote:They don't lock them up.

When someone gets a life sentence over there, they go to prison for a few years, and then when family or people on the outside stop contact with them, they quietly get "disappeared" and are never seen again.

Well...I really don't find a problem if this guy finds redemption in prison, but there's zero need for him to be out wandering again. I'm sorry that we don't have better preventive mental health care in this country and we should work as a society on that, but I truly don't believe in 'rehab' once you've raped/murdered. There's something about sex crimes that seems immune to therapy and treatment. It's just a bad urge and better to keep separate from society.

They don't lock them up.

When someone gets a life sentence over there, they go to prison for a few years, and then when family or people on the outside stop contact with them, they quietly get "disappeared" and are never seen again.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The victim herself probably wouldn't even want him to spend that long in prison. That's awful. That's practically the bulk of his life. He'll be an old man when he gets out. So sad.

It would be better for him to get out of jail and murder some other innocent, unsuspecting person? Maybe next time it would be your sister, daughter, mother, best friend....

It is possible to be criminally insane. And the criminally insane need to be locked up.

I just don't think taking away the balance of another persons life, even if they did a bad thing, is right. You're basically advocating that his life is destroyed, too. Plus, the justice system is fundamentally racist and prejudiced, so it's highly likely he did not receive a fair trial, and when serving his sentence, he will receive very little in the way of rehabilitation. Our entire system of dealing with lawbreakers is flawed. All the emphasis is on punishment, rather than rehabilitation. So yes, I do believe it's a travesty to sentence him for so long. Two wrongs don't make a right. And there's absolutely no proof that he would ever harm anyone else again, either. You can't see the future. No one can.

Agree. The UAE has a great criminal justice system. We should replicate it.

I have never felt safer than in my travels in the Gulf States. There is something to be said for locking people up who commit horrible crimes. We have a far more transparent criminal justice system, and could only do it more effectively with more success.

Anonymous wrote:We can wrap the thread up with two points:

1. The person claiming the sentence is too harsh is an obvious troll. Don’t feed.

2. I’m amazed the sentence is as long as it is. This is DC. We’re fortunate the rapist/murderer wasn’t given a verbal warning or a stern talking-to.

Ok Mr President. Anyone who disagrees with you is fake. Gotcha.