Anonymous
11/08/2017 14:12
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WTF Bridges?
Congrats to ITS for climbing up to Tier 1.
LAMB's numbers are astounding.
Looks like Bridges was hurt by their ELA PARCC scores (including a lack of growth on them year over year) and reenrollment. Sad news.
Last year was their first year in their new building, too. Could help explain the re-enrollment #?
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:53
Subject: Re:2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How come some schools like ITS don't have a break down of their scores by Elementary School and Middle School while others like Cap City and Basis do? It'd be nice to be able to compare Elementary to Elementary, Middle to Middle, etc.
Cap City upper is a separate LEA all together. ITS/Creative Minds and other PK-8 schools are all one LEA. You can compare via grade via other methods.
That doesn't explain it. Basis and Wash Latin, EL Haynes are all one LEA -- and yet break out Middle from High School (and ELH breaks out Elementary, Middle and High School).
Two Rivers 4th reports as one school for Pk3-8th
Those examples all have high schools and require assessments to be separated. There are no PK-8 schools that are assessed separately. And I think you're not accurate, I believe ELH, Cap City, and Wash Latin have separate LEAs for lower, middle, and/or upper.
Actually OSSE considers KIPP, EL Haynes, Appletree, Center City, Cap City, Latin, DC Prep, and BASIS to each be one LEA with multiple schools. Two Rivers is one LEA with two schools too.
A "school" doesn't necessarily mean its own building (see Latin and BASIS) and a single "school" can have multiple buildings (see LAMB).
Regardless each school[b] gets its own PMF report.
PP you're quoting. Thanks for the clarification.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:40
Subject: Re:2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How come some schools like ITS don't have a break down of their scores by Elementary School and Middle School while others like Cap City and Basis do? It'd be nice to be able to compare Elementary to Elementary, Middle to Middle, etc.
Cap City upper is a separate LEA all together. ITS/Creative Minds and other PK-8 schools are all one LEA. You can compare via grade via other methods.
That doesn't explain it. Basis and Wash Latin, EL Haynes are all one LEA -- and yet break out Middle from High School (and ELH breaks out Elementary, Middle and High School).
Two Rivers 4th reports as one school for Pk3-8th
Those examples all have high schools and require assessments to be separated. There are no PK-8 schools that are assessed separately. And I think you're not accurate, I believe ELH, Cap City, and Wash Latin have separate LEAs for lower, middle, and/or upper.
Actually OSSE considers KIPP, EL Haynes, Appletree, Center City, Cap City, Latin, DC Prep, and BASIS to each be one LEA with multiple schools. Two Rivers is one LEA with two schools too.
A "school" doesn't necessarily mean its own building (see Latin and BASIS) and a single "school" can have multiple buildings (see LAMB).
Regardless each school[b] gets its own PMF report.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:27
Subject: Re:2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How come some schools like ITS don't have a break down of their scores by Elementary School and Middle School while others like Cap City and Basis do? It'd be nice to be able to compare Elementary to Elementary, Middle to Middle, etc.
Cap City upper is a separate LEA all together. ITS/Creative Minds and other PK-8 schools are all one LEA. You can compare via grade via other methods.
That doesn't explain it. Basis and Wash Latin, EL Haynes are all one LEA -- and yet break out Middle from High School (and ELH breaks out Elementary, Middle and High School).
Two Rivers 4th reports as one school for Pk3-8th
Those examples all have high schools and require assessments to be separated. There are no PK-8 schools that are assessed separately. And I think you're not accurate, I believe ELH, Cap City, and Wash Latin have separate LEAs for lower, middle, and/or upper.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:22
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lee is Tier 2. I think this is their first time being tiered?
SSMA is as well. Went from 60% to 44%?
Lee still has no PARCC scores, so how is the Tier given?
And, SSMA. They had really low re-enrollment. I wonder how many points came off for that alone??
They lost over 17% just on attendance and re-enrollment. SMH
Now this to me isn't right. I mean, fine, lose 5%. But 17?? why is it weighted so high?
Problem: it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Parents see the rating decline, they don't re-enroll, rating goes further down the hill. I don't really think it's about the actual quality of the school.
Reenrollment isn't weighted that heavily, like 5% of total score.
But for SS, which was scored on a scale of 55 total points (due to no PARCC results to measure growth and no Gateway metric), the reenrollment is worth 18% of the overall score and the attendance is worth 18% as well.
Well the methodology shouldn't be news to the school leadership; they should have put more emphasis on attendance knowing it was going to be heavily weighted.
I think reenrollment was affected due to their move -- and that should smooth out after a year. Parents should talk to the admins and see what they are going to DO about this, or if they are unconcerned.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:18
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lee is Tier 2. I think this is their first time being tiered?
SSMA is as well. Went from 60% to 44%?
Lee still has no PARCC scores, so how is the Tier given?
And, SSMA. They had really low re-enrollment. I wonder how many points came off for that alone??
They lost over 17% just on attendance and re-enrollment. SMH
Now this to me isn't right. I mean, fine, lose 5%. But 17?? why is it weighted so high?
Problem: it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Parents see the rating decline, they don't re-enroll, rating goes further down the hill. I don't really think it's about the actual quality of the school.
Reenrollment isn't weighted that heavily, like 5% of total score.
But for SS, which was scored on a scale of 55 total points (due to no PARCC results to measure growth and no Gateway metric), the reenrollment is worth 18% of the overall score and the attendance is worth 18% as well.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:17
Subject: Re:2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How come some schools like ITS don't have a break down of their scores by Elementary School and Middle School while others like Cap City and Basis do? It'd be nice to be able to compare Elementary to Elementary, Middle to Middle, etc.
Cap City upper is a separate LEA all together. ITS/Creative Minds and other PK-8 schools are all one LEA. You can compare via grade via other methods.
That doesn't explain it. Basis and Wash Latin, EL Haynes are all one LEA -- and yet break out Middle from High School (and ELH breaks out Elementary, Middle and High School).
Two Rivers 4th reports as one school for Pk3-8th
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:15
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lee is Tier 2. I think this is their first time being tiered?
SSMA is as well. Went from 60% to 44%?
Lee still has no PARCC scores, so how is the Tier given?
And, SSMA. They had really low re-enrollment. I wonder how many points came off for that alone??
They lost over 17% just on attendance and re-enrollment. SMH
Now this to me isn't right. I mean, fine, lose 5%. But 17?? why is it weighted so high?
Problem: it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Parents see the rating decline, they don't re-enroll, rating goes further down the hill. I don't really think it's about the actual quality of the school.
Reenrollment isn't weighted that heavily, like 5% of total score.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:14
Subject: Re:2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:How come some schools like ITS don't have a break down of their scores by Elementary School and Middle School while others like Cap City and Basis do? It'd be nice to be able to compare Elementary to Elementary, Middle to Middle, etc.
Cap City upper is a separate LEA all together. ITS/Creative Minds and other PK-8 schools are all one LEA. You can compare via grade via other methods.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:14
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Lee is Tier 2. I think this is their first time being tiered?
SSMA is as well. Went from 60% to 44%?
Looks like a leadership problem at SSMA....
Anonymous
11/08/2017 13:01
Subject: Re:2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
How come some schools like ITS don't have a break down of their scores by Elementary School and Middle School while others like Cap City and Basis do? It'd be nice to be able to compare Elementary to Elementary, Middle to Middle, etc.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 12:59
Subject: Re:2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
how is the % economically disadvantaged greater than at-risk %? I thought at risk % was broader in definition and included economically disadvantaged. Is economically disadvantaged same as FARM rate?
Anonymous
11/08/2017 12:56
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does DCPS quantify data in this sort of way?
They have some of the same data points that are in the Tier reports (eg student growth percentage can be found on 2nd tab of the school profile pages), but they don't add them up and give a "Tier" rating to a school.
However, OSSE is creating a new DC-wide report card that will compare all schools to each other, and give everyone a 1-5 rating. I think they will start to come out in 2019.
You can learn more about the soon to be coming report cards, and provide input to OSSE https://osse.dc.gov/builddcsreportcard
Anonymous
11/08/2017 12:55
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Anonymous wrote:Does DCPS quantify data in this sort of way?
They have some of the same data points that are in the Tier reports (eg student growth percentage can be found on 2nd tab of the school profile pages), but they don't add them up and give a "Tier" rating to a school.
However, OSSE is creating a new DC-wide report card that will compare all schools to each other, and give everyone a 1-5 rating. I think they will start to come out in 2019.
Anonymous
11/08/2017 12:47
Subject: 2017 Charter School Quality Reports Are Out (Tier ratings)
Does DCPS quantify data in this sort of way?