It could be alopecia. I had it )mine was patchy, not diffuse hair loss though) and was told it was caused by stress. Could swimming 4 times/week be stressful? Have there been other changes in her life?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a jerk but your kids hair is past her butt and falling out and you think she's a model? Dear lord.

You are a jerk for saying yuck to something you haven't seen. And you know you made a jerky remark. So yeah.
I don't think she is a model I was being descriptive as to its condition.

Its condition is "falling out". And I have seen oddly long hair on children, I assume that your child looks like they do. And yes, yuck.

It had not fallen out in 9 years up to this point. Her hair is long by her choosing. She gets it cut all the time. She just had 4 inches cut off. You have nothing to add. Go away.

I cannot believe people are attacking you! I have no answer except to blame it on the chemical treatment used for the lice. I'd be freaked out too! Attacking idiots? GO AWAY

Thanks. I'm leaning towards chemical too. I feel stuck with how to proceed. She's very emotional about the hair breaking off. I tried to comb it out for lice again yesterday, but it's breaking off and she flips out. I did a hair mask to strengthen it last night. I've been inspecting it daily for eggs and have found nothing. I'd like to take her to get it cut, but I'm nervous to bring lice to a salon. She has a dr appt Monday morning. I will see what they say. Ever since the sudden dvt i do not slough off any signs of anything possibly health related.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a jerk but your kids hair is past her butt and falling out and you think she's a model? Dear lord.

You are a jerk for saying yuck to something you haven't seen. And you know you made a jerky remark. So yeah.
I don't think she is a model I was being descriptive as to its condition.

Its condition is "falling out". And I have seen oddly long hair on children, I assume that your child looks like they do. And yes, yuck.

It had not fallen out in 9 years up to this point. Her hair is long by her choosing. She gets it cut all the time. She just had 4 inches cut off. You have nothing to add. Go away.

I cannot believe people are attacking you! I have no answer except to blame it on the chemical treatment used for the lice. I'd be freaked out too! Attacking idiots? GO AWAY

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Anonymous wrote:PP again, sorry I didn't see the blood thinner. Maybe only the Iron Deficiency then.

She had a blood clot which is resolved. She stopped taking blood thinners at the end of sept. and takes a vitamin but i will explore the iron with her MD

Since this is in the health and medicine forum, I hope you have followed up with a hematologist as to why your daughter had a blood clot at such a young age and had her tested for the many blood clotting factors out there that she should know about as she gets older...

Can I ask... do you have any insight into paediatric blood clots?

Not pediatric but I had a DVT as a young adult.

NP here. OP stop replying to the outraged PP; you are just encouraging her (it's probably just a juvenile having fun with you).

Many people tend to shed hair in the fall. it could just be that.

Or could be the lice treatment or medication; whatever. It just seems to me like whatever it is, it's not serious and seems like a one-time thing. My neice has alopecia and your DD's situation does not really sound like that.

Each hair has it's own timeline of growing, dormant, and falling out. If they are all on the same timeline, then it's like an animal getting/shedding a winter coat. So to get uniform coverage, it works by having individual timelines for each hair strand.

I think some factors, not sure which, but possibly medication, puts the hair strands all on the same cycle. For example, take Latisse. Latisse works by keeping all hair in the growth phase. Well if you quit Latisse, then all your eyelashes are in the growth phase and now moving to the dormant phase. So they all go into the dormant phase and then afte a while they start all falling out, because they are now off their individual cycles.

So perhaps that medication reset her individual hairs to go together and now they are falling out together. Here is another example. Last year, my dermatologist looked at all the springy short hair popping up on the top of my head (of medium long hair) and she said "it's probably because you moved cross country last year; stressful situations can cause hair loss and now it's all growing back and it's about a year's long worth of growth."

And I notice that this year, I don't have all those springy hairs...just a few, like I should have.

Anonymous wrote:OP - hate to say it, but it sounds like you and your DD have an unusual hang-up about her hair. Under the circumstances, I think you and she would be wise to cut to a normal length until the shedding stops, then it won't be so obvious and dramatic with handfuls coming out. It's just hair, unless you associate it with her identity or something. weird. There's no need to have hair that long if she is dealing with lice and swimming and now alopecia which may or may not be related to the other two things.

Agree with PP that you need to check her every night for lice. if the service missed one in her 2 feet of hair, then there are several more already. That's why you comb daily.

I'm fine with cutting her hair. She liked it long. I don't dictate how the members of my family style themselves. Do you?
DD is getting to a more rational age. I talked to her last night and she agreed to cut it to mid back. There's no unusual hang ups here, everyone is imagining this stuff, or projecting their own ideas in this thread.

Anonymous wrote:I'D CUR HER DAMN HAIR THAT IS WHAT I'D DO. 2.4 FEET of hair on a 4 foot person? Yuck.

Oh shut up idiot

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Anonymous wrote:PP again, sorry I didn't see the blood thinner. Maybe only the Iron Deficiency then.

She had a blood clot which is resolved. She stopped taking blood thinners at the end of sept. and takes a vitamin but i will explore the iron with her MD

Since this is in the health and medicine forum, I hope you have followed up with a hematologist as to why your daughter had a blood clot at such a young age and had her tested for the many blood clotting factors out there that she should know about as she gets older...

Can I ask... do you have any insight into paediatric blood clots?

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Anonymous wrote:PP again, sorry I didn't see the blood thinner. Maybe only the Iron Deficiency then.

She had a blood clot which is resolved. She stopped taking blood thinners at the end of sept. and takes a vitamin but i will explore the iron with her MD

Since this is in the health and medicine forum, I hope you have followed up with a hematologist as to why your daughter had a blood clot at such a young age and had her tested for the many blood clotting factors out there that she should know about as she gets older...

Thank you for the insight. We have followed up. She has May Thurner syndrome. She had a hematologist and a vascular anomaly specialist.

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Anonymous wrote:PP again, sorry I didn't see the blood thinner. Maybe only the Iron Deficiency then.

She had a blood clot which is resolved. She stopped taking blood thinners at the end of sept. and takes a vitamin but i will explore the iron with her MD

Since this is in the health and medicine forum, I hope you have followed up with a hematologist as to why your daughter had a blood clot at such a young age and had her tested for the many blood clotting factors out there that she should know about as she gets older...

OP, I have no idea about the hair but your lice people suck. That isn't how you treat for lice. Combing is everything. Every night you comb. You can get rid of lice completely just by combing!

That said, if they gave you bad info on the combing I bet their products are doing this. Bad company.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s probably akin to the discomfort I feel about a mother growing feet of hair and watching her child go bald.

Ok drama queen. Your comprehension is A+ today.

No, drama is a child with hair past her rectum. Drama is special swim caps and special braids and assuming that it’s all the fault of others- give her poor hair a break and cut it!

Her hair length is her choice. She takes care of it. It's not like I'm an old hag keeping her in a tower growing her hair for it's magical qualities. Get it? We cut it all the time. Special swim cap? She's on swim team. Maybe you aren't familiar with that but they all wear special swim caps. It's part of their uniform.

Okay. I get it that it seems like I'm being a bitch, but hair loss is traumatic. With most respondents urging a hair cut, you still don't say you will cut it. It DOES appear that you do ascribe some important, if not magical, qualities to her model like hair.

I did say I would cut it. Read back.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s probably akin to the discomfort I feel about a mother growing feet of hair and watching her child go bald.

Ok drama queen. Your comprehension is A+ today.

No, drama is a child with hair past her rectum. Drama is special swim caps and special braids and assuming that it’s all the fault of others- give her poor hair a break and cut it!

Her hair length is her choice. She takes care of it. It's not like I'm an old hag keeping her in a tower growing her hair for it's magical qualities. Get it? We cut it all the time. Special swim cap? She's on swim team. Maybe you aren't familiar with that but they all wear special swim caps. It's part of their uniform.

Okay. I get it that it seems like I'm being a bitch, but hair loss is traumatic. With most respondents urging a hair cut, you still don't say you will cut it. It DOES appear that you do ascribe some important, if not magical, qualities to her model like hair.

OP - hate to say it, but it sounds like you and your DD have an unusual hang-up about her hair. Under the circumstances, I think you and she would be wise to cut to a normal length until the shedding stops, then it won't be so obvious and dramatic with handfuls coming out. It's just hair, unless you associate it with her identity or something. weird. There's no need to have hair that long if she is dealing with lice and swimming and now alopecia which may or may not be related to the other two things.

Agree with PP that you need to check her every night for lice. if the service missed one in her 2 feet of hair, then there are several more already. That's why you comb daily.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, my DD age 9 recently had lice and long hair like your DD. I think you misunderstood the directions re lice treatment! We had Lice Happens come to our house and treat everyone as a precaution, and the protocol is that you need to comb through the kids every single night for 10 days. That will catch any straggling nits and nymphs and also catch any eggs that might hatch. So, I don't think you're doing it right.

Hair grows in cycles, and it's possible that your daughter is going through a shedding cycle now. but between the hair loss and lice, I think I would cut her hair to midback at the very least. It will grow back, and will be much easier for you to comb every day.

You NEED TO COMB EVERY DAY. Especially if it was a 'natural" treatment similar to Lice Happens.

I didn't do an otc treatment. I had a company come to my house and treat everyone in our family. They explained in detail what our maintenance would be, and left literature to instruct. If they are wrong they guarantee their work and they are coming back to fix it.

Well then it probably wasn't natural treatment. I don't know which service you hired, but Lice Happens is the most reputable "natural" service in our area, guaranteed. And they are very specific, that after their natural treatments, it's imperative to comb through the hair every single day for 10 days. It is next to impossible to remove lice from that much hair in one treatment. And if you're DD is doing 5 days without checking again, it gives time for more to breed and hatch.

As to the hair loss, it might be a natural cycle, but I also think a hair cut is in order. If her hair grows so quickly as you claim 3-4 inches in a month, then it shouldn't be a big deal to trim it to mid back. Her hair is too long, IMO. And my DD also has very long hair, but finally agreed to trim to midback.