Anonymous
Post 10/12/2017 10:30     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So if its just "chickenfeed" Babs should give it back to the NRA.


Why?

Is receiving a contribution from the NRA something to be ashamed of?

Why?


I would be ashamed.


Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 21:39     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:I plan on voting for her, if only because she spear-headed the bill to immediately deport any illegal immigrant involved in gang activity, primarily MS-13. Good for her. Time to clean up the violent mess that MS-13 has made of the DC area.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/house-passes-comstock-bill-targeting-immigrant-members-of-ms-13-gang/2017/09/14/71e97ce0-9956-11e7-b569-3360011663b4_story.html?utm_term=.3127be2a80fb


I've met her, been to her house and LOVE her. Will vote for her again.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 13:16     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Love how the pro-Comstock people just sputter, while the rest of us pile on the links to fact, after fact, after fact!
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 13:10     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait a minute.

We hear from libs here all the time about how congress is in the pocket of the gun industry, how much money the gun industry has in politics, and how much the NRA influenced politicians


And now you're telling me the second biggest receiver of NRA money only got $10,000?


Are you shitting me?!?!?!?!

That's all?!?!?!?!?!


How does the NRA control congress with piddling ass little donations like that?!?!?!



Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!



Yeah, compare that to what the NEA (National Educators' Association) gave the Dems. GUffaw guffaw.


Wait, did Education just kill 58 people?



Where do I even start? The NEA is one of the most powerful unions in the USA. It was responsible for the attack on DeVos and the continuing attacks on her (all a waste of money). The NEA gives millions to Warren, Schumer, Kaine, etc., and all the dems on the Education Committees to do its bidding. And they did do its bidding. Then the NEA asked for more money. And stupid teachers nationwide sent in more money because it believed the nonsense the NEA dishes out. Has a single thing that the NEA predicted about DeVos come true for local teachers? Not one thing.



Thank you.


Try again. The NEA has not "given millions" to Warren, Shumer, Kaine, etc. They cannot, by law -- in the same way the NRA cannot, by law.
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00003251&cycle=2012

But, again, the NEA does spend money on behalf of or in opposition to candidates (see Warren's totals here: https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/recips.php?cycle=2012&cmte=National%20Education%20Assn)

The NEA spends less than does the NRA.
https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/detail.php?cycle=2016&cmte=National+Education+Assn

vs.
https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/detail.php?cycle=2016&cmte=National+Rifle+Assn

Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 13:05     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait a minute.

We hear from libs here all the time about how congress is in the pocket of the gun industry, how much money the gun industry has in politics, and how much the NRA influenced politicians


And now you're telling me the second biggest receiver of NRA money only got $10,000?


Are you shitting me?!?!?!?!

That's all?!?!?!?!?!


How does the NRA control congress with piddling ass little donations like that?!?!?!



Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!



Yeah, compare that to what the NEA (National Educators' Association) gave the Dems. GUffaw guffaw.


So many exclamation points for such an ignorant set of comments.

The NRA is bound by campaign finance law. PACs can ONLY donate ~10,000 to candidates. Same with the NEA.

However, both of these groups can and do engage in "outside spending," or making ad buys supporting the candidate. Comstock isn't the #1 beneficiary of NRA support in this respect, but did receive $62K in supportive spending in 2016. (https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/recips.php?cycle=2016&cmte=National%20Rifle%20Assn).

To get a more complete of the NRA's involvement, beyond the limited-in-amount campaign donations, you have to look at their outside spending, which is significant.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 13:04     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So on the one hand we have lobbying that results in mass murder-- or maybe you prefer American carnage-- and on the other we have lobbying against a cabinet secretary that you feel is adequate. I can see how those are of equivalent concern.



I wasn't aware it was a stated policy of the NRA to advocate mass murder.

Can you show us, exactly, where in any NRA literature or mission statement it specifically says "to engage in lobbying which results in mass murder"?

You'll need to point to something specific, not some contrived, conflated, round-the-block-in-fifty-steps answer. Just something from the NRA that says "we lobby for mass murder".

We'll wait while you busy yourself doing that.....




And another thing - have you ever worked on a congressional campaign of any kind? One with lots of ad buys in large media markets? $10K doesn't buy much in the DC market. It's chickenfeed. A few dozen commercials on a top rated radio station in a prime AQH, maybe more on a less highly rated station. But it's still pathetic. It won't even approach your equipment and office furniture leasing costs for your HQ.





So your defense is that
1. The words "mass murder" aren't in the NRA's language, so therefore they don't support policies that lead to high kill rates.
2. $10,000 isn't that much.

So, for #1, I'm just not even sure what to say about that. If the phrase "mass murder" is a problem for you, whatever, but the NRA's repeated, consistent fight against any level of gun control, and their desire to actually put in place legislation that makes it EASIER for killers, i.e. the current legislation to allow more silencers. (So now it would be even harder for police to find a shooter) it absurd. If you support the NRA, you have to own what that support means. My dad is a gun owner, and he dropped his membership years ago, because he (and many other gun owners) don't share the beliefs of the NRA. NRA's main source of donations right now are gun manufactures.

For #2. It's a very weak defense for Comstock that $10,000 isn't that much money. The point is that she is still one of the lawmakers that receives the most money from NRA.
Also, since I posted this (yes, I'm the OP) I've found even more information.
Here's another website that shows not only contributions from NRA, but also other anti-gun control organizations
http://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/gun-lobbying-spending-in-america-congress/

On this list, you see that Comstock actually has received $28,407, that's combined NRA and an organization called Gun Owners of America.
Of the 435 members of Congress, Comstock is ranked 14 on this list.
14!

To be clear, I would be unhappy to learn my representative took one penny from one of these organizations. The fact that she is one of their biggest recipients? She needs to go.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 12:42     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:So if its just "chickenfeed" Babs should give it back to the NRA.


Why?

Is receiving a contribution from the NRA something to be ashamed of?

Why?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 10:36     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

So if its just "chickenfeed" Babs should give it back to the NRA.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 09:32     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:So on the one hand we have lobbying that results in mass murder-- or maybe you prefer American carnage-- and on the other we have lobbying against a cabinet secretary that you feel is adequate. I can see how those are of equivalent concern.



I wasn't aware it was a stated policy of the NRA to advocate mass murder.

Can you show us, exactly, where in any NRA literature or mission statement it specifically says "to engage in lobbying which results in mass murder"?

You'll need to point to something specific, not some contrived, conflated, round-the-block-in-fifty-steps answer. Just something from the NRA that says "we lobby for mass murder".

We'll wait while you busy yourself doing that.....




And another thing - have you ever worked on a congressional campaign of any kind? One with lots of ad buys in large media markets? $10K doesn't buy much in the DC market. It's chickenfeed. A few dozen commercials on a top rated radio station in a prime AQH, maybe more on a less highly rated station. But it's still pathetic. It won't even approach your equipment and office furniture leasing costs for your HQ.



Anonymous
Post 10/10/2017 18:03     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:Here's a link with a map that lets you zoom in to see how her district was gerrymandered:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/VA/10


That's so bizarre looking. I hope the Wisconsin Supreme Court decision comes down quickly and independent commissions have a shot to redraw these districts so they're not designed to give one party an unfair advantage.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 10:42     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

I'm amused that Barbara's one friend who always shows up to defend her in every thread *doesn't even know which areas are in her district.* What a nut.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 10:35     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Here's a link with a map that lets you zoom in to see how her district was gerrymandered:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/VA/10
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 10:34     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:Did Betsy teach you how to read a map? Parts of western Fairfax are clearly part of her district.

I live near Chantilly HS and I am in her district.

Also, did a PP really try to say Babs is not personally rich? Are you effing kidding me? She lives in a multi-million dollar mansion in McLean with her extremely rich husband.


The map was drawn deliberately to pack Democratic voters into two other districts. See how it was carefully drawn to include all of Clifton (more conservative) and a more conservative area of Centreville, but excludes more densely packed, Democratic-leaning Centreville precincts? Includes Oakton (R-leaning) but circles around Herndon (D) and Reston (D)
That's why it is so strangely shaped.

Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 10:22     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Countdown to when Barbara's friend shows up to defend her. 3...2....1...


Ah, yes, I remember that friend! He/she was not aware that Western Fairfax is part of Comstock's district.



Western Fairfax is not part of the 10th Congressional District. Please look at map here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia%27s_10th_congressional_district#/media/File:Virginia_US_Congressional_District_10_(since_2013).tif


You're kidding, right? I live in the Fairfax Co section of Chantilly, practically on the South Riding border, and we are most certainly in this despicable woman's district. She has an office across from the Costco on Lee Road and her constituents routinely knock on my door before an election.

As a friend of Comstock, I would think you'd at least know which areas she serves.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2017 09:07     Subject: Barbara Comstock's NRA $

So on the one hand we have lobbying that results in mass murder-- or maybe you prefer American carnage-- and on the other we have lobbying against a cabinet secretary that you feel is adequate. I can see how those are of equivalent concern.