Anonymous wrote:Eh. I support everyone's right to do what they want, and I certainly don't think there should be censorship. That being said, I never dated guys who read Playboy (or Maxim, etc) or were heavily into porn. Wasn't interested in guys who are into that.

Aren't most heterosexual men into hot, naked women?

Eh. I support everyone's right to do what they want, and I certainly don't think there should be censorship. That being said, I never dated guys who read Playboy (or Maxim, etc) or were heavily into porn. Wasn't interested in guys who are into that.

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, let's not start calling the women he used ho's/bimbos/sluts/whatever. Remember Mean Girls- if we call each other that, it just makes it okay for men to call us that, too.

Who cares whether women OR men call women who ARE ho's/bimbos/sluts what they actually are? Both men and women use the word asshole to describe a certain type of male and no one has a problem with that.

"Asshole" doesn't refer to a man's sexuality. No woman should be called names because of her sexuality.

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Anonymous wrote:Adios, asshole. A major player in the subjugation and objectification of women is gone!

Didn't all these women do what they did with him willingly?

Women desperate for money aren't on a level playing field with men who have tons of money, power and influence.

Women may finally find themselves equal to men in all areas when they decide to stop acting like perpetual victims. Take responsibility for decisions. These women made a choice. They weren’t oppressed or victimized. To suggest otherwise implies we are weak.

Careful, your privilege is showing.

Let me just guess: you are white and upper-middle class, and have been your whole life. You have never known what it is like to be hungry or homeless.

Have you ever seen an issue of Playboy? The women are largely all white, and may not be UMC, but certainly weren't coming from hungry or homeless backgrounds!

Hugh Hefner interview with Oriana Fallaci:

"A girl resembles a bunny. Joyful, joking. Consider the kind of girl that we made popular: the Playmate of the Month. She is never sophisticated, a girl you cannot really have. She is a young, healthy, simple girl – the girl next door. The sex we fight for is innocent sex…we are not interested in the mysterious, difficult woman, the femme fatale, who wears elegant underwear, with lace, and she is sad, and somehow mentally filthy. The Playboy girl has no lace, no underwear, she is naked, well-washed with soap and water, and she is happy."

"Playboy girls have a first name, a last name, an address, a family. They belong to good respectable families from every point of view, financial, social. No, madam, we never choose poor girls. Poverty brings sadness with it, a sort of dirtiness that becomes evident even on a naked body."

Happy this trash is dead. It's entirely possible to uplift women and allow them to own their sexuality without objectifying them.

Anonymous wrote:Women used him for fame and fortune. The usage was mutual. Each benefited and got something they wanted.

This is not the same as abuse.

And yet people (including on DCUM of all places) are venerating a man that promoted these types of relationships. Get it through your heads people! The dude was immoral!!

Great articles in that magazine.

Anonymous wrote:He gave blank checks to MLK to fund the civil rights movement and funded lawyers to support Roe v. Wade.

Should we really be surprised that a man who thought that sex was purely recreational would support a cause that allows men to not have to deal with the consequences of their actions?

Anonymous wrote:Ladies, let's not start calling the women he used ho's/bimbos/sluts/whatever. Remember Mean Girls- if we call each other that, it just makes it okay for men to call us that, too.

Who cares whether women OR men call women who ARE ho's/bimbos/sluts what they actually are? Both men and women use the word asshole to describe a certain type of male and no one has a problem with that.

He was a classy gentleman who brought far more than photographs to print, to the delight of all.

Rest in peace good sir!

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Anonymous wrote:He spent his career using and abusing women so... bye.

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boy bye.

You really do not know what it was like when he started his magazine. There was no openness about sex. Single women were not to have sex or be sexual. You are really clueless if you think Playboy was about using and abusing women. He and his magazine really broke down a lot of barriers for women.

Women have always been more powerful than men. They have the power of family and health. They outlive men by 10 years. They emotionally abuse men to death.

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Anonymous wrote:Women used him for fame and fortune. The usage was mutual. Each benefited and got something they wanted.

This is not the same as abuse.

I agree. We can't believe that women should have the right to do what they want with their bodies then decry men when women do it.

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It's really demeaning to take agency away from these women.

My favorite Playboy cover:

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Anonymous wrote:Adios, asshole. A major player in the subjugation and objectification of women is gone!

Didn't all these women do what they did with him willingly?

Women desperate for money aren't on a level playing field with men who have tons of money, power and influence.

Women may finally find themselves equal to men in all areas when they decide to stop acting like perpetual victims. Take responsibility for decisions. These women made a choice. They weren’t oppressed or victimized. To suggest otherwise implies we are weak.

Except studies show 85% of women in the porn industry were sexually molested as kids.

So pretending these women were not victims making horrible decisions due to the result of complex PTSD would make us ignorant.

I don't think that the decision to pose for tasteful, nude pictures in Playboy is the same thing as starring in a porn movie. I highly doubt that 85% of the women choosing to pose in Playboy did so because they had been sexually abused. They did it for the money, the fame, the fortune, the status.

It's sad you think you can look at a women and tell if she was molested.

The person you work with could have been molested, they are not just whores on the street addicted to meth.