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Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.

Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.

but it is very partisan to say big fat lies about how illegal immigrants are costing us. the post of OP is one example, alleging that undocumented immigrants routinely live off welfare (homes, free healthcare, now even free $$$$ braces!). these lies are spread on purpose by right wing new outlets and like Fox News and Breitbart, so their struggling voters can direct their rage against immigrants instead of against Republicans and keep voting them to get policies that will screw then even more.

you see that in NV you "see droves of illegal immigrants" - do they have a stamp on the forehead saying "illegals" ? or like OP if think that anybody speaking Spanish is illegal? how do you know they get government money? from which agencies?

no problem in examining costs of undocumented immigrants, but please leave the fat lies out. the cost of the trip Mnuchin's wife took to see the eclipse in Kentucky could have covered the mortgage of you house in Burke for a year (the cost of Trumps' trips to his golf courses so far could probably pay for the entire North Arlington's housing market)

Illegal immigration in Nova is HUGE. The schools look like 3rd world countries. "Hispanic" is the dominating demographic in many schools, the school stats destroyed by the high levels of Nonenglish speaking students, vast majority of which eat lunch on the taxpayer dime. Nova/FFX is a "sanctuary city" besides, which I'm sure is driven by the low levels of illegal immigrants around here, according to you. Illegal immigrants absolutely gets taxpayer funded benefits. How can they afford to live in Nova so close-in besides? You got your head in the ground deep.

Here's a question for you:

Why can't you acknowledge these facts about illegal immigration and still be in support of it?

If you support the Illegals, you should be facing the costs associated with them with dignity and without shame, not angrily squirreling around denying basic facts.

I don't fully understand why non-documented immigrants come to NOVA? The argument for support non-documented immigrants is that "they do the jobs we don't want to do," like working in slaughterhouses, the fields picking fruits and veggies, etc.

What jobs are they doing? Just all house cleaning and illegal yard work, maybe construction?

And yes, I see along Lee Highway in Arlington the school bus stops where there are like a 100 Latino kids waiting at each stop. It's unfair to say they are all illegal when you have no idea. So just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.

Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.

Pro-illegals advocates never count the cost for educating/medicating/free-lunching 'the children' or any cost associated with anchor babies. Everyone who cites the schemes and abuse middle class Americans are paying for is a bigot.

The VA doesn't even cover dental! My dad had to pay for a plan.

Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.

Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.

but it is very partisan to say big fat lies about how illegal immigrants are costing us. the post of OP is one example, alleging that undocumented immigrants routinely live off welfare (homes, free healthcare, now even free $$$$ braces!). these lies are spread on purpose by right wing new outlets and like Fox News and Breitbart, so their struggling voters can direct their rage against immigrants instead of against Republicans and keep voting them to get policies that will screw then even more.

you see that in NV you "see droves of illegal immigrants" - do they have a stamp on the forehead saying "illegals" ? or like OP if think that anybody speaking Spanish is illegal? how do you know they get government money? from which agencies?

no problem in examining costs of undocumented immigrants, but please leave the fat lies out. the cost of the trip Mnuchin's wife took to see the eclipse in Kentucky could have covered the mortgage of you house in Burke for a year (the cost of Trumps' trips to his golf courses so far could probably pay for the entire North Arlington's housing market)

Illegal immigration in Nova is HUGE. The schools look like 3rd world countries. "Hispanic" is the dominating demographic in many schools, the school stats destroyed by the high levels of Nonenglish speaking students, vast majority of which eat lunch on the taxpayer dime. Nova/FFX is a "sanctuary city" besides, which I'm sure is driven by the low levels of illegal immigrants around here, according to you. Illegal immigrants absolutely gets taxpayer funded benefits. How can they afford to live in Nova so close-in besides? You got your head in the ground deep.

Here's a question for you:

Why can't you acknowledge these facts about illegal immigration and still be in support of it?

If you support the Illegals, you should be facing the costs associated with them with dignity and without shame, not angrily squirreling around denying basic facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.

Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.

but it is very partisan to say big fat lies about how illegal immigrants are costing us. the post of OP is one example, alleging that undocumented immigrants routinely live off welfare (homes, free healthcare, now even free $$$$ braces!). these lies are spread on purpose by right wing new outlets and like Fox News and Breitbart, so their struggling voters can direct their rage against immigrants instead of against Republicans and keep voting them to get policies that will screw then even more.

you see that in NV you "see droves of illegal immigrants" - do they have a stamp on the forehead saying "illegals" ? or like OP if think that anybody speaking Spanish is illegal? how do you know they get government money? from which agencies?

no problem in examining costs of undocumented immigrants, but please leave the fat lies out. the cost of the trip Mnuchin's wife took to see the eclipse in Kentucky could have covered the mortgage of you house in Burke for a year (the cost of Trumps' trips to his golf courses so far could probably pay for the entire North Arlington's housing market)

Illegal immigration in Nova is HUGE. The schools look like 3rd world countries. "Hispanic" is the dominating demographic in many schools, the school stats destroyed by the high levels of Nonenglish speaking students, vast majority of which eat lunch on the taxpayer dime. Nova/FFX is a "sanctuary city" besides, which I'm sure is driven by the low levels of illegal immigrants around here, according to you. Illegal immigrants absolutely gets taxpayer funded benefits. How can they afford to live in Nova so close-in besides? You got your head in the ground deep.

Here's a question for you:

Why can't you acknowledge these facts about illegal immigration and still be in support of it?

If you support the Illegals, you should be facing the costs associated with them with dignity and without shame, not angrily squirreling around denying basic facts.

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Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.

DP here. We must pay for our citizens. But, to say that the undocumented who come here are not an expense is deceptive. And, please note that the $19k is likely a minimum cost as these kids likely need more services: ESOL, etc. and possibly special needs.

While they are American Citizens and here to stay, they should have never been and more are born each day to parents that should not be in this country. This is why we need a big beautiful wall, enforce harsh penalties for companies that employ illegals, and jail those who overstay Visas. Once the incentive to come is extinguished, the remaining problem can then be managed.

What does this have anything to do with illegals and braces? Maybe you should stay on topic.

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Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.

DP here. We must pay for our citizens. But, to say that the undocumented who come here are not an expense is deceptive. And, please note that the $19k is likely a minimum cost as these kids likely need more services: ESOL, etc. and possibly special needs.

While they are American Citizens and here to stay, they should have never been and more are born each day to parents that should not be in this country. This is why we need a big beautiful wall, enforce harsh penalties for companies that employ illegals, and jail those who overstay Visas. Once the incentive to come is extinguished, the remaining problem can then be managed.

What does this have anything to do with illegals and braces? Maybe you should stay on topic.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.

Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.

Start a new thread about your topic. What OP posted is hogwash.

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Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.

DP here. We must pay for our citizens. But, to say that the undocumented who come here are not an expense is deceptive. And, please note that the $19k is likely a minimum cost as these kids likely need more services: ESOL, etc. and possibly special needs.

While they are American Citizens and here to stay, they should have never been and more are born each day to parents that should not be in this country. This is why we need a big beautiful wall, enforce harsh penalties for companies that employ illegals, and jail those who overstay Visas. Once the incentive to come is extinguished, the remaining problem can then be managed.

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Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.

DP here. We must pay for our citizens. But, to say that the undocumented who come here are not an expense is deceptive. And, please note that the $19k is likely a minimum cost as these kids likely need more services: ESOL, etc. and possibly special needs.

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Anonymous wrote:$135 billion per year, receiving perks middle class Americans can't afford:

My daughter works in a dental office. The Spanish speaking patients are all paid for by DSHS. Not only the dental is free, they are now receiving free orthodontia work all paid for by the hardworking taxpayer. She regularly sees $5000-7000 dental bills for a single patient, NOT a family. This is just the tip of iceberg...saunter on over to the food stamp or aid to children or welfare offices. The bills are huge and I suspect larger than this article cites. Sickening, really and a huge magnet for more to cross the border.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8075-each-25000-in-ny/article/2635757

This sounds completely unbelievable. I'd be utterly shocked it this was true.

I work in education and MOST of the undocumented teens have braces on their teeth. Someone's paying for it...

Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


So we shouldn't educate our citizens? I am not following.