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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if OP is a troll or not, but I do think it can be believable that an adult who had a learning disability and was in a special ed classroom growing up might have challenges discerning written or verbal information conveyed to him/her by teachers or doctors and may have missed the subtle signs and suggestions from them to get the child help.

That's the only explanation here - that OP's own disabilities have prevented her from seeing what would be obvious to others. Although one has to wonder if there is another parent in the picture and, if so, what's been going on in his or her head.

Did you read the whole OP? She says that in fact she found a good fit preschool eventually and the behavior problems went away. That may be why she didn't follow up. Now she is following up because the behavior is back. PS if the school recommends an evaluation it isn't "subtle."

NP here and the parent of a behaviorally challenged child. When my child was having trouble I got lots of feedback tha tin retrospect was subtle. Requests for strategies we found useful at home. Recommendations to consider this very expensive school I'd never heard of but no information about it or reason. Concerns that my son had a lagging problem with reading but no info about what to do. It is possible if you are simply unaware to miss a lot, particularly in private schools. But the public school should be doing more.

OP hopefully you can try to gain more information about your daughter with a therapist and a neuropsychological evaluation. Better now than later. And ask the school about resources. Your daughter is not succeeding in her classroom so she will need some place where she will succeed.

The fact the kid cn only thrive in a preschool of 5 kids is further proof she has significant special needs. Op, whatever is going on with your kid, here's a term you'll likely need to get acquainted with: self contained classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if OP is a troll or not, but I do think it can be believable that an adult who had a learning disability and was in a special ed classroom growing up might have challenges discerning written or verbal information conveyed to him/her by teachers or doctors and may have missed the subtle signs and suggestions from them to get the child help.

That's the only explanation here - that OP's own disabilities have prevented her from seeing what would be obvious to others. Although one has to wonder if there is another parent in the picture and, if so, what's been going on in his or her head.

Did you read the whole OP? She says that in fact she found a good fit preschool eventually and the behavior problems went away. That may be why she didn't follow up. Now she is following up because the behavior is back. PS if the school recommends an evaluation it isn't "subtle."

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if OP is a troll or not, but I do think it can be believable that an adult who had a learning disability and was in a special ed classroom growing up might have challenges discerning written or verbal information conveyed to him/her by teachers or doctors and may have missed the subtle signs and suggestions from them to get the child help.

That's the only explanation here - that OP's own disabilities have prevented her from seeing what would be obvious to others. Although one has to wonder if there is another parent in the picture and, if so, what's been going on in his or her head.

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if OP is a troll or not, but I do think it can be believable that an adult who had a learning disability and was in a special ed classroom growing up might have challenges discerning written or verbal information conveyed to him/her by teachers or doctors and may have missed the subtle signs and suggestions from them to get the child help.

There's nothing subtle about the signs OP's DD has been giving.

Not sure if OP is a troll or not, but I do think it can be believable that an adult who had a learning disability and was in a special ed classroom growing up might have challenges discerning written or verbal information conveyed to him/her by teachers or doctors and may have missed the subtle signs and suggestions from them to get the child help.

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Where is the part of your post where you detail the visits to the developmental pediatrician or child psychologist, the evaluations she had, and the diagnoses and discussion about treatment?

PLEASE tell me you did something along those lines in the two years between her first expulsion and this year's problems.

If you didn't, shame on you. This poor child is crying out for help. She has a mental disorder (and ADHD is probably the main factor, but there could be something else as well).

STOP IT. There is no need to berate OP. Just stop. You attacking other parents is not the way to alleviate whatever anxiety you have about your own kid.

OP, you should ask the school to evaluate your child.

No worries about my own kids, since they were evaluated as soon as concerns arose, which is precisely what OP failed to do.

OP, the school evaluations are perfunctory and conducted by people who do not have the degrees and experience of private practice psychologists. Bear in mind there might be a conflict of interest. If you have the money, a private evaluation is immeasurably better.

This is a serious parenting fail on your part, there's no polite way to say it. Make an appointment first thing on Monday.

Clearly you have deeply rooted anxieties and a need to feel superior if you think chastising a parent who is asking for help as a failure.

OP if you post on the SN board along with where you live, people can help connect you to resources.

Go away. OP needs to hear a strong message and you're muddying the waters. Unless you're OP, and a troll?

You think calling OP is a failure is a useful message? No. That's just to make yourself feel better by projecting your aggression and secret fear you aren't doing enough on someone else.

OP clearly needs advice, not yelling.

No one is yelling. OP's kid has been expelled TWICE for behavior that is FAR outside the norm and she had no clue to get her evaluated? She seems to have familiarity with DCUM, so I too am calling troll.

There is absolutely no way you were never told to get an evaluation for this when the behavior is a clear indicator of massive special behavioral needs and issues. So here's the only options:

1. You're a troll
2. You didn't listen and are playing babe in the woods now as if you didn't know perfectly well to get this addressed

Either way: get your act together. If it's 1, quit trolling. If 2, get your ass to a child psych and developmental pediatrician YESTERDAY to find out her GD diagnosis.

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Anonymous wrote:This cannot be for real.

I'm thinking OP is a troll, too. This can't be real and I say this as a parent of 2 kids with IEPs which include behavioral goals.

Or OP might just be from a different culture or economic class where she doesn't have access to the same intensive parenting ethos or access to resources. Perhaps it would be more useful for you to describe how you approached your kids needs and got a good IEP.

Typically, parents from other cultures and lower economic classes use more physical discipline. Those in upper economic classes would quickly see a specialist. OP hasn't indicated she's tried that so I doubt she's from another culture or a differnt economic class. She's either a troll or a parenting failure.

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Anonymous wrote:This cannot be for real.

I'm thinking OP is a troll, too. This can't be real and I say this as a parent of 2 kids with IEPs which include behavioral goals.

Or OP might just be from a different culture or economic class where she doesn't have access to the same intensive parenting ethos or access to resources. Perhaps it would be more useful for you to describe how you approached your kids needs and got a good IEP.

Typically, parents from other cultures and lower economic classes use more physical discipline. Those in upper economic classes would quickly see a specialist. OP hasn't indicated she's tried that so I doubt she's from another culture or a differnt economic class. She's either a troll or a parenting failure.

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Anonymous wrote:This cannot be for real.

I'm thinking OP is a troll, too. This can't be real and I say this as a parent of 2 kids with IEPs which include behavioral goals.

Or OP might just be from a different culture or economic class where she doesn't have access to the same intensive parenting ethos or access to resources. Perhaps it would be more useful for you to describe how you approached your kids needs and got a good IEP.

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Yesterday I had a meeting with her teacher and principal and they told me that if she keeps this up, she will not be promoted to 1st grade.

Definitely a troll. It is no longer considered appropriate to hold children back a grade except in exceptional situations. Although OP's DD, supposedly, has significant behavioral issues, they don't meet the criteria needed to be withheld a grade. After all, what would holding the child back do? Why would you get different results in the same environment the second time around?

Our DCPS actually holds back kids instead of giving good IEPs. True story.

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Where is the part of your post where you detail the visits to the developmental pediatrician or child psychologist, the evaluations she had, and the diagnoses and discussion about treatment?

PLEASE tell me you did something along those lines in the two years between her first expulsion and this year's problems.

If you didn't, shame on you. This poor child is crying out for help. She has a mental disorder (and ADHD is probably the main factor, but there could be something else as well).

STOP IT. There is no need to berate OP. Just stop. You attacking other parents is not the way to alleviate whatever anxiety you have about your own kid.

OP, you should ask the school to evaluate your child.

No worries about my own kids, since they were evaluated as soon as concerns arose, which is precisely what OP failed to do.

OP, the school evaluations are perfunctory and conducted by people who do not have the degrees and experience of private practice psychologists. Bear in mind there might be a conflict of interest. If you have the money, a private evaluation is immeasurably better.

This is a serious parenting fail on your part, there's no polite way to say it. Make an appointment first thing on Monday.

Clearly you have deeply rooted anxieties and a need to feel superior if you think chastising a parent who is asking for help as a failure.

OP if you post on the SN board along with where you live, people can help connect you to resources.

Go away. OP needs to hear a strong message and you're muddying the waters. Unless you're OP, and a troll?

You think calling OP is a failure is a useful message? No. That's just to make yourself feel better by projecting your aggression and secret fear you aren't doing enough on someone else.

OP clearly needs advice, not yelling.

Yesterday I had a meeting with her teacher and principal and they told me that if she keeps this up, she will not be promoted to 1st grade.

Definitely a troll. It is no longer considered appropriate to hold children back a grade except in exceptional situations. Although OP's DD, supposedly, has significant behavioral issues, they don't meet the criteria needed to be withheld a grade. After all, what would holding the child back do? Why would you get different results in the same environment the second time around?

Anonymous wrote:This cannot be for real.

I'm thinking OP is a troll, too. This can't be real and I say this as a parent of 2 kids with IEPs which include behavioral goals.