Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My brother used to teach elementary school. He quit because of stupid shit like this. If your kid in a dress is trying to sit cross-legged, then thank goodness someone is saying something to her or him. That's extremely inappropriate.

Tights are a kind of undergarment outside the gym IMO and you shouldn't sit cross legged in them unless you are at yoga class.

What I think is inappropriate is teachers (of any gender) making rules about how seven-year-old girls wearing dresses should sit, lest people think thoughts about what's under their dresses.

You are right, it is far more appropriate for your daughter to show her panties to everyone in the room. God forbid she be corrected! I'm sure no one will notice and she has every right to flash the other kids and teacher! My God, people here are so stupid.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I think that you just made my point more effectively than I did.

Did I? well, that is an interesting perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird and off base. Is he telling the boys to sit with their legs together? Is he enforcing rules of deportment on both genders, all the time? Or are the girls held to standards of deportment and the boys not?

I take it you have never had a male boss or colleague who is careful not to be alone in your office with the door closed, etc.? Men must be careful. Male teachers must be very careful.

Being careful means policing yourself. Not others.

Teachers are allowed to tell children what to do. In fact, they're supposed to tell children what to do. If part of that also protects themselves, then that's a bonus, isn't it?

Of course teachers are allowed to tell children what to do. That's irrelevant to your office scenario, however.

I would hope that my daughters would have known how to sit like a lady by that age. I would appreciate the reminder if they didn't. Sadly, too many young ladies (especially true in the DC area where being feminine is seen as a character flaw) aren't being taught how to behave properly. Young ladies in dresses do need to be careful about the way they sit. Leggings are NOT pants. If parents aren't doing their job, sometimes teachers have to step in.

Anonymous wrote:And in another thread, people are arguing that girls aren't socialized to be calmer, they just ARE calmer. Here's great evidence - girls, we'll socialize you to sit JUST SO, and be lady like. Boys, go ahead and sit however you darn well please, you're boys!

Twenty month old babies are not socialized to be calmer. That's nature.

Telling a girl that she should wear a dress to school and then be offended when she is told not to sit criss-cross is nurture. Or lack thereof. (The boys are not allowed to sit however they darn well please. They are supposed to sit criss-cross, just like the girls are. The ones who sit however they darn well please are on red or in the principal's office.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My brother used to teach elementary school. He quit because of stupid shit like this. If your kid in a dress is trying to sit cross-legged, then thank goodness someone is saying something to her or him. That's extremely inappropriate.

Tights are a kind of undergarment outside the gym IMO and you shouldn't sit cross legged in them unless you are at yoga class.

What I think is inappropriate is teachers (of any gender) making rules about how seven-year-old girls wearing dresses should sit, lest people think thoughts about what's under their dresses.

You are right, it is far more appropriate for your daughter to show her panties to everyone in the room. God forbid she be corrected! I'm sure no one will notice and she has every right to flash the other kids and teacher! My God, people here are so stupid.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I think that you just made my point more effectively than I did.

And in another thread, people are arguing that girls aren't socialized to be calmer, they just ARE calmer. Here's great evidence - girls, we'll socialize you to sit JUST SO, and be lady like. Boys, go ahead and sit however you darn well please, you're boys!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My brother used to teach elementary school. He quit because of stupid shit like this. If your kid in a dress is trying to sit cross-legged, then thank goodness someone is saying something to her or him. That's extremely inappropriate.

Tights are a kind of undergarment outside the gym IMO and you shouldn't sit cross legged in them unless you are at yoga class.

What I think is inappropriate is teachers (of any gender) making rules about how seven-year-old girls wearing dresses should sit, lest people think thoughts about what's under their dresses.

You are right, it is far more appropriate for your daughter to show her panties to everyone in the room. God forbid she be corrected! I'm sure no one will notice and she has every right to flash the other kids and teacher! My God, people here are so stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:

+100

Y'all are nuts to attack a male teacher about this. And leggings/tights are not pants.

I'm always reading on DCUM that leggings aren't pants, and I'm baffled by it every time. If leggings aren't pants, what are they?

I consider them more like tights and would not wear them out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird and off base. Is he telling the boys to sit with their legs together? Is he enforcing rules of deportment on both genders, all the time? Or are the girls held to standards of deportment and the boys not?

I take it you have never had a male boss or colleague who is careful not to be alone in your office with the door closed, etc.? Men must be careful. Male teachers must be very careful.

Being careful means policing yourself. Not others.

Teachers are allowed to tell children what to do. In fact, they're supposed to tell children what to do. If part of that also protects themselves, then that's a bonus, isn't it?

Sure, teachers are allowed to tell children what to do -- about school-related things. If your kid's teacher told your kid to go stand on their head in the corner, or insist on grapefruit with every meal, or only wear purple to school from now on, would your response still be, "Teachers are allowed to tell children what to do."?

Anonymous wrote:

+100

Y'all are nuts to attack a male teacher about this. And leggings/tights are not pants.

I'm always reading on DCUM that leggings aren't pants, and I'm baffled by it every time. If leggings aren't pants, what are they?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird and off base. Is he telling the boys to sit with their legs together? Is he enforcing rules of deportment on both genders, all the time? Or are the girls held to standards of deportment and the boys not?

I take it you have never had a male boss or colleague who is careful not to be alone in your office with the door closed, etc.? Men must be careful. Male teachers must be very careful.

Being careful means policing yourself. Not others.

Teachers are allowed to tell children what to do. In fact, they're supposed to tell children what to do. If part of that also protects themselves, then that's a bonus, isn't it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My brother used to teach elementary school. He quit because of stupid shit like this. If your kid in a dress is trying to sit cross-legged, then thank goodness someone is saying something to her or him. That's extremely inappropriate.

Tights are a kind of undergarment outside the gym IMO and you shouldn't sit cross legged in them unless you are at yoga class.

+100

Y'all are nuts to attack a male teacher about this. And leggings/tights are not pants.

UNDER A DRESS? You are out of your ever loving mind.

What are you supposed to wear under a dress? Pants under a dress? What planet are you from?

Whether you're wearing leggings, tights, or nothing under a dress, you shouldn't sit cross-legged. You know this, you've just lost track of that knowledge somewhere.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird and off base. Is he telling the boys to sit with their legs together? Is he enforcing rules of deportment on both genders, all the time? Or are the girls held to standards of deportment and the boys not?

I take it you have never had a male boss or colleague who is careful not to be alone in your office with the door closed, etc.? Men must be careful. Male teachers must be very careful.

Being careful means policing yourself. Not others.

Anonymous wrote:My brother used to teach elementary school. He quit because of stupid shit like this. If your kid in a dress is trying to sit cross-legged, then thank goodness someone is saying something to her or him. That's extremely inappropriate.

Tights are a kind of undergarment outside the gym IMO and you shouldn't sit cross legged in them unless you are at yoga class.

What I think is inappropriate is teachers (of any gender) making rules about how seven-year-old girls wearing dresses should sit, lest people think thoughts about what's under their dresses.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My brother used to teach elementary school. He quit because of stupid shit like this. If your kid in a dress is trying to sit cross-legged, then thank goodness someone is saying something to her or him. That's extremely inappropriate.

Tights are a kind of undergarment outside the gym IMO and you shouldn't sit cross legged in them unless you are at yoga class.

+100

Y'all are nuts to attack a male teacher about this. And leggings/tights are not pants.

UNDER A DRESS? You are out of your ever loving mind.

What are you supposed to wear under a dress? Pants under a dress? What planet are you from?